Give this guy $500 and it will be the best $500 you ever spend in this business. Trust me.

Spend the fucking money and you will see see more money coming in with something like these over what you have now.

http://adultmix.biz/paysites/bustycass/
http://adultmix.biz/paysites/pmp/
http://www.adultmix.biz/paysites/swe...zan/page1.html
http://www.adultmix.biz/paysites/wivesandmilfs/
http://www.adultmix.biz/paysites/hotchickslovedicks/

Go with what works for you and trust your conversions. I've seen perfectly good money-makers ruined with a polished design.

I'm JD :) and you should hire me like Si said :D

See thats the thing....We wants affiliates, therefor we need a design that affiliates feel will convert, yet at the same time we have to keep an amateur look without a pro design pro meaning looking like evry other site thats not amateur trying to be amateur...

There must be away to be a real amateur but show it in a way that affiliates will send traffic to....

We have an idea, we will finish it and show it to yas

I really do appreciate all this advice

A thing to consider is that there's a big difference between a site being amateurishly made and, made to market the amateur niche.
I think you've gotten some good advice in here. And if I recall correctly, you've gotten the exact same advice multiple times over the years when you've asked for feedback on the same thing.
If what you have now works for you, don't change it. If you want something to attract webmasters to promote your sites, stop and think for a bit and consider why that hasn't happened yet - and then act accordingly.
:)

A designer is worth the money for what you are doing.

If your money is short then just get a good "header" made for now.

thanks for sending so much love to me in this thread :)
And on a serious note, aside all the comments, polite and hateful.
This site just needs redesign, those you did is not good.

Check the OPs posts going back a few years. They are always here asking for ideas and help and the one thing they're told every time is to hire a real designer, but here we are years later and that still hasn't been done.

The one time you did take the advice of GFY you stayed in business instead of closing up shop and that ended up working out for you quite nicely, if I do remember correctly.

You can hire a professional designer and still have an amateur looking site. Your lack of design skill is not what constitutes "amateur".

Seriously, spend the money for one and you will see the results immediately. As many have pointed out, you want new affiliates and people don't want to send traffic to the tours you have.

The original Raven Riley tour is still my all time favorite tour. It perfectly balanced the line between amateur and pro, in my opinion.

That said, I think that having good quality content/ad tools for your affiliates will help more than anything. Those pics in the fhg above are blurry. Not to mention the fact that there is really nothing about having a bunch of duplicate pics of a torso with a dildo that makes me want to click through. The fhg template itself is fine, imho. The images themselves need work, and lots of it.

As mentioned above, take a couple of versions of a tour, and run some A/B tests against it with your own traffic. When you seem to be getting good results, release that version to your affiliates. You can have many different options available so that affiliates can pick what best matches their traffic.

You can also offer a BYOT option, if that is possible with NATS. I don't have any experience on knowing if it is or not. :)

Edit: As an affiliate, I personally don't see anything wrong with the tour you are using now. It uses text to describe the updates with sample pictures. It is clean as well. The only thing I might change about it is adding some more model personality to it.

http://www.debsdeepthroat.com/newsite/main.html this is just basic layout, there is no design there.. if it sells - good, keep it.

personal opinion: whenever I land on sites that look end of 20th century, I leave them - they don't look authentic and don't offer much credibility. all that "design" says to me - either it was made for quick buck or by incompetent people.

Fiddy Sweet Deals.
:pimp

Sig.

Ok here is another version, I think this looks nice
http://www.debsdeepthroat.com

We are going to test this one for a few days and see what we get

I'm not trying to ride you or beat a dead horse, but it's still very dated.
It doesn't look 'Amateur', it looks home made. (from the early 90s)
Like someone else mentioned, lack of design skill is not what constitutes an 'Amateur' look.

Best of luck with it.

No please your fine, we want the input.....

We have intentions of using everybit of advice we get som the more the merrier!

Amateur made at home sites should look that way but be careful not to make it look tooo crappy. I dont like anything posted but thats me.

not even the latest version?

I dont like either, but #2 is the best of the 2.
In any case, get rid of "live girls 24/7. The site is about HER, not about upsells or bonus material.

These days people know that even an "amateur" can have a professional looking site. You are doing something that these days just looks "dated", not "amateur".

You've gotten some great advice and you say you're going to use all of it. Why not do just that and use the ONE REAL suggestion everyone has given you regarding the design...let someone else do it.

You won't lose money.

The last time i Used a designer the same thing happened.....I asked what for some input and some said it was ok and some said it sucked, so whos to say i would be any further ahead....

I figured I would do some different layouts and when I get close to a good design I will go with it

Ok
We now offer 3 tours for debsdeepthroat

http://www.debsdeepthroat.com

http://www.debsdeepthroat.com/tour1

http://www.debsdeepthroat.com/tour2

I think the tour1 is my favorite

looking at these, aside from the hideous design, I get the impression there is only 1 woman featured on this site, and she's not all that hot. I wouldn't spend any $ on it.

why the bump on a thread that is almost a year old? I think it is safe to say they already got the advice they was looking for.

so harsh everyone

euphoriacash

I'd just like to say you take criticism like a fucking pro man... There was a lot of beat down in this thread and you've maintained a positive attitude and are working in the right direction. Thumbs up on being a fucking champ :D

That said...

Someone earlier recommended changing from Times New Roman as the font. You should DEFINITELY make the switch to something else... Arial or if you want to keep with serif fonts try out Georgia or something :P

On the new links you posted I think Tour1 (Also your fav) is moving in the right direction.

Here's a couple of things you could do to bring the design a little more up to date but keeping it still "amateur"

- Add a repeating background, very tasteful and very toned down
- Try changing up the color on the title images you're using, something complimentary that stands out but isn't obnoxious... specifically on your calls to action
- Never skew a photo (like the one of deb at the top left of the content area in tour1... she looks squished
- Try out some different content separators...
- Don't center all of your verbiage, that will help block out areas better and keep it looking a bit "cleaner"
- Try blocking out different content areas or "blocks" with a different back ground color (nothing too drastic) or perhaps even some very light borders
- The follow me on twitter link... make the entire box the link rather than just the word "Twitter"

Anyway, there's a few suggestions on things you could try out, hope that helps!