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Robbie 04-19-2010 10:30 PM

So gideon...does this mean that "no" you can't do it for adult? :1orglaugh

plsureking 04-22-2010 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17054542)
So gideon...does this mean that "no" you can't do it for adult? :1orglaugh

just got caught up on this thread. been busy doing actual work (not just talking about how i would make so much money off some techniques i cant prove)

someone who talks as much as gideon is all talk. otherwise he wouldnt have to say anything. everybody would already know what he can do. this is a small industry. anyone who can actually deliver results gets known fast.

the guy, in my opinion, is full of shit and living in his mom's basement. yea he can probably afford to go out and buy cheap beer with his friends once or twice a week with his "music industry royalties", but he aint rolling in dough. successful guys are too damn busy.

in the years i've been reading gfy, gideon has only been known for one thing - being totally full of shit.

i'm with Robbie. prove yourself or stfu.

The Sultan Of Smut 04-22-2010 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SEO Expert (Post 17037230)
tubes took our jobs!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...k_Our_Jobs.jpg

gideongallery 04-22-2010 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17054542)
So gideon...does this mean that "no" you can't do it for adult? :1orglaugh

ok robbie
i will show you how to do it under the cc-sa licience

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/legalcode

take it to your lawyer and ask him what the consequence of instructions on how to change your content is when distributed under cc-sa.


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Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 17062770)
just got caught up on this thread. been busy doing actual work (not just talking about how i would make so much money off some techniques i cant prove)
someone who talks as much as gideon is all talk. otherwise he wouldnt have to say anything. everybody would already know what he can do. this is a small industry. anyone who can actually deliver results gets known fast.

the guy, in my opinion, is full of shit and living in his mom's basement. yea he can probably afford to go out and buy cheap beer with his friends once or twice a week with his "music industry royalties", but he aint rolling in dough. successful guys are too damn busy.

in the years i've been reading gfy, gideon has only been known for one thing - being totally full of shit.

i'm with Robbie. prove yourself or stfu.

so an average of 15 minutes a day is to much time talking.

robbie spends more time on this board than i do

and so do you.

Serial Pervert 04-22-2010 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Gump (Post 17037007)
lol this will be interesting, gonna make popcorn

lool :thumbsup

plsureking 04-22-2010 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17063145)
so an average of 15 minutes a day is to much time talking.

robbie spends more time on this board than i do

and so do you.

flawed argument.
compare your post count to mine.
same signup date (oddly lol) :thumbsup

my comment was that u write so much bs about how u are an expert but u prove nothing and have done nothing.

i do however understand your public domain point regarding Robbie's content. it has to go into the public domain to be promoted on torrents.

more importantly tho i understand his hesitation about taking the risk of releasing his content to a guy who can't prove himself and has no industry clients that can vouch for his credibility.

your skills are unknown but you talk so much about how u know everything.

gideongallery 04-23-2010 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 17063183)
flawed argument.
compare your post count to mine.
same signup date (oddly lol) :thumbsup

my comment was that u write so much bs about how u are an expert but u prove nothing and have done nothing.

it been a standard offer since the very begining if robbie agrees to put his content into the public domain IF he steals the techniques he claimed will never work i will show you all how to do it.

Robbies choice not mine.

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i do however understand your public domain point regarding Robbie's content. it has to go into the public domain to be promoted on torrents.
you don't have to release the content into the public domain to use those techniques.

fair use friendly liciencing is not ONLY public domain

that was only a penalty if robbie acts like a scumbag steals the ideas/techniques and prevents he came up with them on his own (just like he did with his product placement and i am creative bs)

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more importantly tho i understand his hesitation about taking the risk of releasing his content to a guy who can't prove himself and has no industry clients that can vouch for his credibility.
again he doesn't have to put his content into the public domain to use see my/our techniques he just has to agree that he will never use them.

if he steals them then his content is public domain.



your skills are unknown but you talk so much about how u know everything.[/QUOTE]

we are talking about one tiny aspect of the entire game. It plugs one hole that is currently a problem
i have never claimed an expertise in all areas or running a pay site. It one of the reasons why the buy some content and make a paysite and prove it to us bs or robbie is unreasonable. I would have to spend a lot of time learning things outside the scope of my core focus. Failing lots of times with content creation, design etc just to get the basic foundation that already exists.

i didn't write my own single and make myself a music star to prove that it could be done.
I will not play a fixed game designed to waste my time.

SmokeyTheBear 04-23-2010 01:58 PM

for anyone still paying attention to gideon, please go watch bugs burn on lightbulbs , you will be much better off and likely learn something.

Gideons "facts" are nothing more than figments of his own imagination. Take a look at his sig line for proof of this. "fair use is never a copyright infringement" it says. Fair use is decided on a case by case basis on all the facts. Calling something "fair use" is not a legal basis for anything . replace "copyright infringment" with "murder" and "fair use" with "self defense"
murder is always a crime but self defense is never a murder
hogwash double talk :) calling something self defense doesn't mean it is or will be accepted.


The Supreme Court of the United States described fair use as an affirmative defense in Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music. This means that, in litigation on copyright infringement, the defendant bears the burden of raising and proving that his use was "fair" and not an infringement.

plsureking 04-23-2010 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17067388)
i didn't write my own single and make myself a music star to prove that it could be done.
I will not play a fixed game designed to waste my time.

i've been thinking about making a rap album. maybe i'll hit u up lol

La_Sexorcist 04-23-2010 06:35 PM

I uploaded a tiny sarah silverman clip on my youtube account once and it was taken down so fast per complaints from Viacom.

kane 04-23-2010 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17067388)
i didn't write my own single and make myself a music star to prove that it could be done.
I will not play a fixed game designed to waste my time.

You're a music star now? Or are you saying you could do this just to prove it could be done but have chosen not to?

gideongallery 04-27-2010 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17067454)
for anyone still paying attention to gideon, please go watch bugs burn on lightbulbs , you will be much better off and likely learn something.

Gideons "facts" are nothing more than figments of his own imagination. Take a look at his sig line for proof of this. "fair use is never a copyright infringement" it says. Fair use is decided on a case by case basis on all the facts. Calling something "fair use" is not a legal basis for anything . replace "copyright infringment" with "murder" and "fair use" with "self defense"
murder is always a crime but self defense is never a murder
hogwash double talk :) calling something self defense doesn't mean it is or will be accepted.


The Supreme Court of the United States described fair use as an affirmative defense in Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music. This means that, in litigation on copyright infringement, the defendant bears the burden of raising and proving that his use was "fair" and not an infringement.

we have had this arguement before your trying to twist a statement about scope changes to try and argue that the fundamental principle of legal precedent doesn't apply to fair use.

once the precedent is set a fair use is established, pvr did have to go back into court and fight their way to the supreme court again to "prove" they had a right to timeshift just like a vcr.


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Originally Posted by kane (Post 17068307)
You're a music star now? Or are you saying you could do this just to prove it could be done but have chosen not to?

do you even bother reading

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we are talking about one tiny aspect of the entire game. It plugs one hole that is currently a problem
i have never claimed an expertise in all areas or running a pay site. It one of the reasons why the buy some content and make a paysite and prove it to us bs of robbies is unreasonable. I would have to spend a lot of time learning things outside the scope of my core focus. Failing lots of times with content creation, design etc just to get the basic foundation that already exists.

no independent musican demanded that i make myself a rockstar before they would even consider, i don't have the talent to do that.

however people like robbie keep saying things like buy 10k worth of content and make a multimillion dollar pay site and then we will listen to you.

the principles were tested using adult content and then adapted to work for musicans because of certain commonalities. they work for musicians (which was the stretch) since it only worked for porn.


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