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  • GatorB
    The Demon & 12clicks
    • Oct 2001
    • 18208

    #51
    Originally posted by Martin
    There is over 300 million people in the US. There is 90 guns per 100 people in the US. It's the most armed nation on the earth. You think the army is going to take going to war with it's own people lightly? Do you really believe that all these gun owners are just billy and Bob with a couple shot guns? You don't know whats going on inside your own country.
    I'm one of those 300 million. I'm certainly not rising up against the government. In fact I might help kill some of these milita retards. You are so fucking stupid if you think our troops are just going to lay down and not defend their country. That's very disrespectful.

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    • Martin
      "Assassins"
      • Dec 2001
      • 17277

      #52
      Originally posted by theking
      Exactly...for the most part people in the military will obey orders and will kill whomever their Commander in Chief orders them to kill. Kent State is not the only example.
      You think killing a few UNARMED hippies and getting in guerrilla war with people that look like them is the same thing?

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      • GatorB
        The Demon & 12clicks
        • Oct 2001
        • 18208

        #53
        Originally posted by Martin
        You think killing a few UNARMED hippies and getting in guerrilla war with people that look like them is the same thing?
        So if some militias attack the white house and Congress our troops will just lay down and do nothing?

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        • Martin
          "Assassins"
          • Dec 2001
          • 17277

          #54
          Originally posted by GatorB
          I'm one of those 300 million. I'm certainly not rising up against the government. In fact I might help kill some of these milita retards. You are so fucking stupid if you think our troops are just going to lay down and not defend their country. That's very disrespectful.
          Go eat some more nut sacks. You killin some Milita retards You're a joke.

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          • directfiesta
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Oct 2002
            • 30135

            #55
            Originally posted by J. Falcon
            I want to know where these tea party idiots were when Bush was raising taxes, starting bullshit wars, and destroying the country.
            Cheering ... After all, it was a fun game of killing brownies .... and did not have to pay for it ... right away !
            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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            • Martin
              "Assassins"
              • Dec 2001
              • 17277

              #56
              Originally posted by GatorB
              So if some militias attack the white house and Congress our troops will just lay down and do nothing?
              Attack the white house You're too much, killing me over here.

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              • GatorB
                The Demon & 12clicks
                • Oct 2001
                • 18208

                #57
                Originally posted by Martin
                Go eat some more nut sacks. You killin some Milita retards You're a joke.
                Still not answering the question. Tells me everthing I need to know.

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                • 2012
                  So Fucking What
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 17189

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Martin
                  You guys honestly believe that American Troops will go to war against their neighbors, friends, family? People that look like them? Are you fucking that stupid?
                  you must live in a nice world



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                  • directfiesta
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 30135

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Martin
                    I've been following the Militia movement inside the US. They've been active long before Obama was even on the radar. They really got a boost after the events of 9-11. Stop with they're all racist red necks propaganda you have fallen for. They're resisting what they feel is a over reaching government.
                    Continue to follow ....

                    In 2009, the Southern Poverty Law Center tracked a 300 percent increase in the number of militia groups operating in the United States -- from 42 to 127 such groups at the year's end.

                    http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/03/3...tia/index.html
                    I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                    But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                    • Tom_PM
                      Porn Meister
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 16443

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Caligari
                      "President Obama said Friday he plans to withdraw most U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of August 2010.

                      Between 35,000 to 50,000 troops will remain in Iraq, he said. They would be withdrawn gradually until all U.S. forces are out of Iraq by December 31, 2011 -- the deadline set under an agreement the Bush administration signed with the Iraqi government last year."

                      So... I dunno what to tell ya. My phrase "coming along nicely" just reflects that it's on track according to reports.
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                      • theking
                        Nice Kitty
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 21053

                        #61
                        Originally posted by Martin
                        You think killing a few UNARMED hippies and getting in guerrilla war with people that look like them is the same thing?
                        Ever heard about the 1932 Bonus March...when tens of thousands of First World War Vets were protesting at the White House and the Government ordered General MacArthur use the military against former soldiers. Men...women and children died...by the hands of our military...during this event.
                        Last edited by theking; 04-13-2010, 10:37 AM.
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                        • Martin
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                          • Dec 2001
                          • 17277

                          #62
                          Originally posted by directfiesta
                          Continue to follow ....
                          I just had to read the head line. "Anti-government hate militias on the rise"

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                          • Martin
                            "Assassins"
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 17277

                            #63
                            Originally posted by theking
                            Ever heard about the 1932 Bonus March...when tens of thousands of First World War Vets were protesting at the White House and the Government ordered General MacArthur use the military against former soldiers. Men...women and children died...by the hands of our military...during this event.
                            Different times. Listen, the American Military is not in the least interested in getting into some running battles with a well armed American people.

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                            • mayabong
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 1952

                              #64
                              If the troops just knew the truth about the depleted uranium they would join the militia movement in a second. They are already catching on to who was truly behind 9/11. Maybe they can discredit this military man who just came out.

                              Last edited by mayabong; 04-13-2010, 10:48 AM.
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                              • GatorB
                                The Demon & 12clicks
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 18208

                                #65
                                Originally posted by Martin
                                Different times. Listen, the American Military is not in the least interested in getting into some running battles with a well armed American people.
                                What color is the sky in your world? Honestly any troops that DIDN'T defend their country from attack should be shot on the spot.

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                                • theking
                                  Nice Kitty
                                  • Sep 2002
                                  • 21053

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by Martin
                                  Different times. Listen, the American Military is not in the least interested in getting into some running battles with a well armed American people.
                                  The military remains the same as it always has been...the over whelming majority will obey orders and turn their guns on anyone that they are ordered to turn their guns on...period. BTW...the American people are not well armed or anywhere close to being well armed...compared to the military.
                                  When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

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                                  • Joshua G
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                                    • Jul 2008
                                    • 8198

                                    #67
                                    i say let these right wingers play in the woods with their guns & act like they are defending their liberty. As long as they dont threaten/attack innocent people, they are not doing anything illegal.

                                    As soon as one of these militias issues a threat, the Fibbies will shut them down in an hour. Should one of them actually attack anyone, the local SWAT team will clean house. The US military won't even get a phone call.

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                                    • GatorB
                                      The Demon & 12clicks
                                      • Oct 2001
                                      • 18208

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by joshgirls
                                      i say let these right wingers play in the woods with their guns & act like they are defending their liberty. As long as they dont threaten/attack innocent people, they are not doing anything illegal.
                                      The point is the only purpose for wanting a militia is to ATTACK the government. We have police and national guard to handle any other problem that requires the use of force.

                                      But I agree let them have thier militia. Makes it easier to identify who to shoot.

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                                      • Martin
                                        "Assassins"
                                        • Dec 2001
                                        • 17277

                                        #69
                                        You guys have this picture in your head of the Militia on one side and the American Military on the other. That's not how it would look.

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                                        • theking
                                          Nice Kitty
                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 21053

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by joshgirls
                                          i say let these right wingers play in the woods with their guns & act like they are defending their liberty. As long as they dont threaten/attack innocent people, they are not doing anything illegal.

                                          As soon as one of these militias issues a threat, the Fibbies will shut them down in an hour. Should one of them actually attack anyone, the local SWAT team will clean house. The US military won't even get a phone call.
                                          Exactly...they are infiltrated and monitored by government agencies...be it local...state or federal.
                                          When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

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                                          • theking
                                            Nice Kitty
                                            • Sep 2002
                                            • 21053

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by Martin
                                            You guys have this picture in your head of the Militia on one side and the American Military on the other. That's not how it would look.
                                            Since the military is a branch of the Government and they have taken a sworn oath...that is exactly how it would look
                                            When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

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                                            • GatorB
                                              The Demon & 12clicks
                                              • Oct 2001
                                              • 18208

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Martin
                                              You guys have this picture in your head of the Militia on one side and the American Military on the other. That's not how it would look.
                                              You have this picture that 300 million people will rise up against the government. Half the country is too lazy to fucking vote. The other half voted for Obama.

                                              Let me ask the Americans here. Would you join a militia to overthrow the current government. I won't. That's my vote. What say you other Americans?

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                                              • kane
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Aug 2001
                                                • 20684

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by Martin
                                                Different times. Listen, the American Military is not in the least interested in getting into some running battles with a well armed American people.
                                                Kind of like how they flat out refused to help control the riots in Los Angeles after the Rodney King verdict? Oh, that's right, they followed orders, blocked streets and were prepared to shoot UNARMED US citizens if they were told to do so.

                                                Every member of the military won't do as they are told. Many of them would refuse to attack fellow US citizens, but there are some that would follow orders and do what they are told. A handful of military guys in helicopters, planes and tanks would flatten just about any militia uprising in no time.

                                                It's not like the entire country would rise up against the government. Half of those eligible to vote don't even bother. If they can't be bothered to get off their ass for a few minutes every four years do you think they are going to take up arms?

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                                                • Joshua G
                                                  dumb libs love censorship
                                                  • Jul 2008
                                                  • 8198

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by GatorB
                                                  The point is the only purpose for wanting a militia is to ATTACK the government.
                                                  other than the Hutaree fiasco, i am not aware of any militias that have attacked, or even theatened to attack, the government. The Waco & Randy Weaver disasters, the government was the attacker.

                                                  Much more of a threat are the lone wolves like McVeigh, Joe Stack & the school/officeplace shootings the last decade. These lone wolves have done far more damage to innocents then any militia.

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                                                  • directfiesta
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 30135

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by Martin
                                                    You guys have this picture in your head of the Militia on one side and the American Military on the other. That's not how it would look.
                                                    The destruction of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, was the culmination of years of escalation. In total, there were 845 acts of domestic terrorism from far-right and white supremacist groups between 1954 and 2004, including shootings, bombing and arson...

                                                    I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                    But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                    • GatorB
                                                      The Demon & 12clicks
                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                      • 18208

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by joshgirls
                                                      other than the Hutaree fiasco, i am not aware of any militias that have attacked, or even theatened to attack, the government. The Waco & Randy Weaver disasters, the government was the attacker.
                                                      Still doesn't answer the question of the purpose of the militia. It's amazing that the pro-militia people still have yet to answer that basic question. Why do you fail to answer the question?

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                                                      • BFT3K
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Dec 2005
                                                        • 10764

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by joshgirls
                                                        I say let these right wingers play in the woods with their guns & act like they are defending their liberty. As long as they dont threaten/attack innocent people, they are not doing anything illegal.

                                                        As soon as one of these militias issues a threat, the Fibbies will shut them down in an hour. Should one of them actually attack anyone, the local SWAT team will clean house. The US military won't even get a phone call.
                                                        Exactly. Militias are like full grown retarded kids playing war in the safety of their own ass-backwards woods or swamps. Sort of like civil war rein-actors. They mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in the big picture. Whenever they get a little bit out of control they are squashed like bugs.

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                                                        • GatorB
                                                          The Demon & 12clicks
                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                          • 18208

                                                          #78
                                                          Let's say these militias could overthrow the government. Does anyone here actually want them in charge? Oh and by the way pro-militia nuts, during the time in country is in total chaos because of you, our enemies are getting ready to attack because they see that we are in a weakened state. So good luck when you take over. Good luck running the show. Good luck setting a budget, allocating funds, fixing bridges and roads etc., providing basic necessities to the 300 million Americans you just "freed" form tyranny.

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                                                          • christopherjon
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • Dec 2009
                                                            • 12

                                                            #79
                                                            "but if you think a militia of ignorant rednecks can do anything against national guard/ army is just stupid."
                                                            Last time I checked the majority of the Military, both active duty and national guard swing to the right and who do think makes up these militias? It's not your stereotypical "deliverance" rednecks.

                                                            I think you'll find many retired and active military personnel involved in the local militia movements as well as local law enforcement. Many may not be "out of the closet" due to it being bad for their careers but that doesn't mean they aren't involved or don't have family who are.

                                                            I'm not saying anything stupid is ever going to happen but if it did you might find that the people with the big guns aren't necessarily on the side you think they are. It's not liberals who are joining the military or law enforcement.

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                                                            • J. Falcon
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                                                              • May 2006
                                                              • 31645

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by Martin
                                                              You think killing a few UNARMED hippies and getting in guerrilla war with people that look like them is the same thing?
                                                              People that look like them? lol
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                                                              • Martin
                                                                "Assassins"
                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                • 17277

                                                                #81
                                                                haha Gator you're comical.lol

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                                                                • Vendzilla
                                                                  Biker Gnome
                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                  • 23200

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                                  Oh and dont forget Confederate History Month in Virgina where slavery never existed, lmfao. What a boner that was for that newbie.
                                                                  Let's also hear from the people that are now calling the confederate soldiers terrorist, they only defended their land, they never marched north.


                                                                  Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                  and your point is ? Was the " non-liberal " media ( read Fox ..) reporting those deaths | daily " ? Are they now ? or both media no longer reporting it

                                                                  Coalition Military Fatalities By Year

                                                                  Year US UK Other Total
                                                                  2003 486 53 41 580
                                                                  2004 849 22 35 906
                                                                  2005 846 23 28 897
                                                                  2006 822 29 21 872
                                                                  2007 904 47 10 961
                                                                  2008 314 4 4 322
                                                                  2009 149 1 0 150
                                                                  2010 20 0 0 20
                                                                  Total 4390 179 139 4708

                                                                  http://www.icasualties.org/Iraq/Index.aspx


                                                                  Other question: Is it true that in submarine they lower the oxygen in the air you breathe ? Just wondering ...
                                                                  What a jack ass, you prove a point by omitting all the facts, like the 96 servicemen that died so far in Afghanistan this year or the 316 that died under Obama last year in Afghanistan. but I guess the service men that died under Obama doesn't matter to you?

                                                                  Just like you attack my service record for something you wouldn't have the balls to do?
                                                                  Last edited by Vendzilla; 04-13-2010, 11:26 AM.
                                                                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                  think about that

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                                                                  • Martin
                                                                    "Assassins"
                                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                                    • 17277

                                                                    #83
                                                                    You guys really have no idea do ya. Chances are you know someone who is Militia. You see the pictures on TV with 5-6 hill billies who claim to be Militia but really it's one they started on their own. The real Militias you don't hear from much if at all till its time to act. These guys are ex police/military etc. Also they're main goal wouldn't be to over throw the government. They would want to work towards changing the government first before anything.
                                                                    Last edited by Martin; 04-13-2010, 11:26 AM.

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                                                                    • theking
                                                                      Nice Kitty
                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                      • 21053

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by christopherjon
                                                                      Last time I checked the majority of the Military, both active duty and national guard swing to the right and who do think makes up these militias? It's not your stereotypical "deliverance" rednecks.

                                                                      I think you'll find many retired and active military personnel involved in the local militia movements as well as local law enforcement. Many may not be "out of the closet" due to it being bad for their careers but that doesn't mean they aren't involved or don't have family who are.

                                                                      I'm not saying anything stupid is ever going to happen but if it did you might find that the people with the big guns aren't necessarily on the side you think they are. It's not liberals who are joining the military or law enforcement.
                                                                      The primary reason the military is "right" oriented is because Republicans...are generally bigger on defense spending and defense R&D then Democrats are. You will find former military involved in all walks of life...so yes their are some that are in the militia.
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                                                                      • mayabong
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jan 2010
                                                                        • 1952

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by Martin
                                                                        haha Gator you're comical.lol
                                                                        I'll post this one more time since I think its important. I'd love some feedback on what this Marine Veteran, and director of studies at the US Army War College says. These people are catching on to the lies and he also says how unlike the political end of things, the military hasn't been bought. Things might get interesting. This was a couple weeks ago, not televised of course. Weather you agree with what he says or not, people in the high levels are actually talking about this stuff.

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                                                                        • Joshua G
                                                                          dumb libs love censorship
                                                                          • Jul 2008
                                                                          • 8198

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                          Still doesn't answer the question of the purpose of the militia. It's amazing that the pro-militia people still have yet to answer that basic question. Why do you fail to answer the question?
                                                                          all you have to do is read the article...The militia's purpose would be to "defend" against what activists see as improper federal infringements on state sovereignty. Im sure you think this is BS. in some cases, if they go the way of the Klan, they might actually threaten or attack someone. But liberales should not assume people who play with guns automatically want to attack something. Self defense is the basis of our lax gun laws.

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                                                                          • J. Falcon
                                                                            www.AdultCopywriters.com
                                                                            • May 2006
                                                                            • 31645

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by Martin
                                                                            haha Gator you're comical.lol
                                                                            And you are clearly deliusional.
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                                                                            • Vendzilla
                                                                              Biker Gnome
                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                              • 23200

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by Martin
                                                                              You guys really have no idea do ya. Chances are you know someone who is Militia. You see the pictures on TV with 5-6 hill billies who claim to be Militia but really it's one they started on their own. The real Militias you don't hear from much if at all till its time to act. These guys are ex police/military etc. Also they're main goal wouldn't be to over throw the government. They would want to work towards changing the government first before anything.
                                                                              Yeah, I agree with you, only the crazies want anarchy, most are more like a gun club that are activist and protest peacefully
                                                                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                              think about that

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                                                                              • GatorB
                                                                                The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                • Oct 2001
                                                                                • 18208

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by joshgirls
                                                                                all you have to do is read the article...The militia's purpose would be to "defend" against what activists see as improper federal infringements on state sovereignty.
                                                                                Yeah and how do they intend on "defending" state sovereignty?

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                                                                                • Martin
                                                                                  "Assassins"
                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                  • 17277

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by J. Falcon
                                                                                  And you are clearly deliusional.
                                                                                  You guys are the delusional ones. I believe the American Constitution is perfectly fine document.

                                                                                  Oh yeah, I forgot. That makes me a terrorist these days.

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                                                                                  • Joshua G
                                                                                    dumb libs love censorship
                                                                                    • Jul 2008
                                                                                    • 8198

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                    Let's say these militias could overthrow the government. Does anyone here actually want them in charge? Oh and by the way pro-militia nuts, during the time in country is in total chaos because of you, our enemies are getting ready to attack because they see that we are in a weakened state. So good luck when you take over. Good luck running the show. Good luck setting a budget, allocating funds, fixing bridges and roads etc., providing basic necessities to the 300 million Americans you just "freed" form tyranny.
                                                                                    i will say this in defense of militias...should it come to pass that nuclear weapons explode over DC & wall street, leading to a state of haiti-like civilian unrest as people can no longer access cash to live on, it will be militias that grow & either maintain order, or behave like roving mauraders looting stores & houses. In such a scenario, i would most definitely want to be in a militia.

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                                                                                    • GatorB
                                                                                      The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                      • 18208

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by Martin
                                                                                      You guys are the delusional ones. I believe the American Constitution is perfectly fine document.

                                                                                      Oh yeah, I forgot. That makes me a terrorist these days.
                                                                                      So do I. Especially the part about free elections and free speech. I'm not sure where the "overthrow the legitimately elected government" and "Kill all those that disagree with you" part is in it.

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                                                                                      • Joshua G
                                                                                        dumb libs love censorship
                                                                                        • Jul 2008
                                                                                        • 8198

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                        Yeah and how do they intend on "defending" state sovereignty?
                                                                                        haha...thats the magic question...the imaginary liberal army that comes to their state to impose their taxes & health care programs!

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                                                                                        • sperbonzo
                                                                                          I'd rather be on my boat.
                                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                                          • 9750

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          I don't understand what the leftwingers on this thread are so upset about.... You guys have had majorities since 2006, you have bigger majorities now, and the executive branch also.... Just relax and enjoy your power... Why all the anger?



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                                                                                          • GatorB
                                                                                            The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                            • Oct 2001
                                                                                            • 18208

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by joshgirls
                                                                                            i will say this in defense of militias...should it come to pass that nuclear weapons explode over DC & wall street, leading to a state of haiti-like civilian unrest as people can no longer access cash to live on, it will be militias that grow & either maintain order, or behave like roving mauraders looting stores & houses. In such a scenario, i would most definitely want to be in a militia.
                                                                                            But the thing is it would be the militias fault DC is in ashes to begin with. So why defend people that attack their own country? You either love America or you don't. You either are a patriot or you're Timothy McVeigh.

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                                                                                            • Vendzilla
                                                                                              Biker Gnome
                                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                                              • 23200

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by joshgirls
                                                                                              i will say this in defense of militias...should it come to pass that nuclear weapons explode over DC & wall street, leading to a state of haiti-like civilian unrest as people can no longer access cash to live on, it will be militias that grow & either maintain order, or behave like roving mauraders looting stores & houses. In such a scenario, i would most definitely want to be in a militia.
                                                                                              Someone asked me once if I had a survival kit of some sorts if a major event happened, I showed them my AR-15 and a box of ammo
                                                                                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                              think about that

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                                                                                              • theking
                                                                                                Nice Kitty
                                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                                • 21053

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by Martin
                                                                                                You guys are the delusional ones. I believe the American Constitution is perfectly fine document.

                                                                                                Oh yeah, I forgot. That makes me a terrorist these days.
                                                                                                The Constitution is alive and well. It is the Supreme Court that defines and defends what laws are constitutional and what laws are not. Any law enacted by local, state or the federal government can be and often is challenged in the courts and many end up in the Supreme Court. No other government entity and certainly no individual...other than the Supreme Court...has this right or this responsibility. While I sometimes disagree with Supreme Court decisions...I...being a law abiding citizen am obligated to abide by their decisions...that is our system of government.
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                                                                                                • dig420
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                  • 9240

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  yep, they're patriots all right. Great americans!

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                                                                                                  • CosmicTang
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Feb 2007
                                                                                                    • 1478

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    There's no way to accurately predict what would happen in a Constitutional crisis where the country came to the brink of revolt. Maybe the armed forces would fire on their own people, maybe they wouldn't. In 1989 in Tianenmen Square the Chinese military turned on its own people. Two years later in Red Square the Russian military sided with the people and refused to carry out a coup effectively finishing off communist rule and facilitating the demise of the Soviet Union. In both cases the citizenry was unarmed.

                                                                                                    I don't know what would happen here. The militias might cave in the face of better trained, better armed military and police forces. Or perhaps seeing the dissenters as plain folk like their families the kids in the military might refuse to fire.

                                                                                                    What I do know is that the fact this is starting to happen should give the government pause to think about what its doing to piss off so many people. The militia folks are not without their relevant talking points.

                                                                                                    As to the person who suggested we vote and use free speech...you haven't been paying attention. The government is doing what it damn well wants regardless of what the people who pay the bills are screaming for. The people roundly said no to the bailouts and they were granted behind closed doors. They voiced their opinions on health care, and yet again were largely ignored. And the final insult may have been the Supreme Court granting corporations--possibly including foreign ones--the right to spend as much money as they want in campaigns which would determine elections of our representatives. I think it's plain they don't have the people in mind.

                                                                                                    So the question becomes: when is it enough?

                                                                                                    Clearly the government isn't working for the people anymore and the Constitution is an afterthought to seemingly everyone in D.C. At what point do people have not merely the right, but the responsibility to do something about it?

                                                                                                    I would hate to see the situation come to violence but should these bullies and their corrupt and unjust system be allowed to continue while hiding behind the guise of democracy?

                                                                                                    Honestly, when is it enough?
                                                                                                    Last edited by CosmicTang; 04-13-2010, 11:46 AM.
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                                                                                                    • Martin
                                                                                                      "Assassins"
                                                                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                                                                      • 17277

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Well said Cosmic.

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