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  • Sarah_Jayne
    Now with more Jayne
    • Dec 2002
    • 40077
    #1

    Are we less of a night owl industry these days?

    When I first got into the industry almost everybody I knew worked overnight into the wee hours. Now, most of those same people are attempting to work 'normal' hours. Possibly, this is because we are all much older now and need our naps.

    The boards used to be be thriving at the after midnight hours and now they die down until mid afternoon.

    Are we less of a night owl industry now?
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    • Brad Gosse
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      • Jan 2002
      • 2616
      #2
      We are all old now. Eating at the Old Country Buffet at 4 to get the early bird special and in bed by 8:30 ;)
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        • BlackCrayon
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          • Jun 2003
          • 19634
          #3
          lol yeah. when i started the night was the only time i actually did work. that was when i was 21...now ten years later im up at 7am...
          you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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            • CaptainHowdy
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              • Dec 2004
              • 94727
              #4
              It's useless to put too much effort...

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                • rowan
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                  • Mar 2002
                  • 17393
                  #5
                  I'm a night owl but family circumstances (my little girl) this year have forced me to be up early 3 days a week, so it's kinda shifted me... I wake up at 8am even when I don't WANT to. :-\

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                    • ArsewithClass
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                      • Mar 2007
                      • 7957
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash
                      When I first got into the industry almost everybody I knew worked overnight into the wee hours. Now, most of those same people are attempting to work 'normal' hours. Possibly, this is because we are all much older now and need our naps.

                      The boards used to be be thriving at the after midnight hours and now they die down until mid afternoon.

                      Are we less of a night owl industry now?
                      Would it not matter where you lived whether business has to be done in the midnight hours?

                      If your in the UK or Europe trying to do business with someone in the US, one of you has to compromise

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                        • The Dawg
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                          • Apr 2002
                          • 2438
                          #7
                          Yeap, my kids forced me to go to bed or pay dearly when they wake up.

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                            • Barefootsies
                              Choice is an Illusion
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 42635
                              #8
                              Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                              lol yeah. when i started the night was the only time i actually did work. that was when i was 21...now ten years later im up at 7am...
                              Exactly right.

                              When I started back in 1997, I was working in telco full time still. So I worked on my sites before work, and after. It was typical for me to work 18 hour days during the week, and 12 on the weekends. Most of it night and weekends.

                              When I left telco and went into this full time. I initially was working 7 days a week, 18 hour days for the first year or two. That including doing photo shoots, compressing video, pay sites, clip stores, promoting and all the rest. It would take a full day's work and then some.

                              Over the years however, I have found more efficient ways to work. Programs have gotten better. I invested in programming and automation. Hired a few part timers to do mundane tasks and over time my hours became less and less.

                              So now I can get all my actual "work" done in 2-4 hours a day, M-F. Usually in the morning. Unless.... I am working on a new project. So when launching a new site, or developing something I will be back to working 8-12 hours M-F.

                              Lastly, my hours also depend on season. In the winter, I will work more sporadic hours. In the summer, I prefer to be up early and out jet skiing or golfing. by early afternoon.
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                                • Sarah_Jayne
                                  Now with more Jayne
                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 40077
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by ArsewithClass
                                  Would it not matter where you lived whether business has to be done in the midnight hours?

                                  If your in the UK or Europe trying to do business with someone in the US, one of you has to compromise
                                  It used to be that pretty much everybody I knew in the industry worked in wherever their middle of the night was. I used to get to know a lot of the American west coasters simply because one of our going to bed time was the others waking up.

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                                    • Martin
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                                      • Dec 2001
                                      • 17277
                                      #10
                                      Its an age thing for sure.

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                                        • Chosen
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                                          • Aug 2001
                                          • 63151
                                          #11
                                          More or less...

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                                            • BestXXXPorn
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                                              • Jun 2009
                                              • 2277
                                              #12
                                              It's also a time thing...

                                              Those of us that work full time jobs and work in adult on the side trying to get something going... are doomed to put in the late hours for a while until the revenue can serve as a replacement rather than a supplement :P
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                                                • Babaganoosh
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                                                  • Nov 2001
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                                                  #13
                                                  I'd still rather work at night but I am older now. I'm married and have a baby. I don't go close down bars and then go out for breakfast anymore. I usually go to bed by 1-2 am rather than 6-8 am like I used to.
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                                                    • woj
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                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                      • 47882
                                                      #14
                                                      same here actually, we are all getting old
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                                                        • Serge Litehead
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                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                          • 5190
                                                          #15
                                                          could go on days without much sleep, now I'm in bed by 1-2 am

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                                                            • Horny Dude
                                                              Earn enough to buy coffee
                                                              • May 2002
                                                              • 4913
                                                              #16
                                                              Lets hear it for all the night owls!!! I still get most my best work done at 2am.

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                                                                • rowan
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                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                  • 17393
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Horny Dude
                                                                  Lets hear it for all the night owls!!! I still get most my best work done at 2am.
                                                                  So do I, just wish I could be awake at that time. It's 3pm here and I'm nearly dozing off. I won't have any peace and quiet until 9pm.

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                                                                    • LAJ
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                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                      • 5567
                                                                      #18
                                                                      I think a lot of people who used to do this as a hobby and had to work a day job... those numbers have been thinning over the years.
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                                                                        • Agent 488
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                                                                          • Feb 2006
                                                                          • 22511
                                                                          #19
                                                                          "what the thinker thinks the prover proves"

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                                                                            • BIGTYMER
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                                                                              • Nov 2004
                                                                              • 17066
                                                                              #20
                                                                              A lot of people have left the biz.

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                                                                                • Loch
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                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                  • 7674
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash
                                                                                  When I first got into the industry almost everybody I knew worked overnight into the wee hours. Now, most of those same people are attempting to work 'normal' hours. Possibly, this is because we are all much older now and need our naps.

                                                                                  The boards used to be be thriving at the after midnight hours and now they die down until mid afternoon.

                                                                                  Are we less of a night owl industry now?
                                                                                  50% of the business have gone out of business
                                                                                  25% Actually have to WORK for it now
                                                                                  20% have old bro networks
                                                                                  5% are good at business so do not have to work past 6PM

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                                                                                    • hypedough
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                                                                                      • Sep 2007
                                                                                      • 3743
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      I just added an early morning shift to the late hour work as well. It is an age thing though, the older I get the earlier I want to be up.

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                                                                                        • the Shemp
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                                                                                          • Nov 2001
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          i work to 4am every day...
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                                                                                            • GregE
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                                                                                              • Jul 2004
                                                                                              • 2704
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by the Shemp
                                                                                              i work to 4am every day...
                                                                                              More often than not that's my routine as well.

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                                                                                                • noize
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                                                                                                  • Nov 2005
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  I crash out between 4-7am, everyday and get up between noon and 3pm. Been this way every summer in school, now I'm 33 and still got the same schedule. It's I'm my genes I guess.

                                                                                                  I get more work done in the late night hours when the world is asleep and not distracting me from the daily maintaince stuff.
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                                                                                                    • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
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                                                                                                      • Jul 2006
                                                                                                      • 20368
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      I tend to go into the later hours myself.

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                                                                                                        • Naechy
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                                                                                                          • Sep 2007
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          it is always late night yea, switch day for night
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                                                                                                            • alias
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                                                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                                                              • 19010
                                                                                                              #28
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                                                                                                                • LoveSandra
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                                                                                                                  • Aug 2008
                                                                                                                  • 10551
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by BIGTYMER
                                                                                                                  A lot of people have left the biz.
                                                                                                                  and more will leave

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                                                                                                                    • Sarah_Jayne
                                                                                                                      Now with more Jayne
                                                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                      • 40077
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by the Shemp
                                                                                                                      i work to 4am every day...
                                                                                                                      When do you start?

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                                                                                                                        • Barefootsies
                                                                                                                          Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                          • 42635
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by LoveSandra
                                                                                                                          and more will leave
                                                                                                                          True dat.
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                                                                                                                            • Raf1
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                                                                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                              • 12117
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Loch
                                                                                                                              50% of the business have gone out of business
                                                                                                                              25% Actually have to WORK for it now
                                                                                                                              20% have old bro networks
                                                                                                                              5% are good at business so do not have to work past 6PM
                                                                                                                              that sounds about right
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                                                                                                                                • Barefootsies
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                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                  • 42635
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Loch
                                                                                                                                  50% of the business have gone out of business
                                                                                                                                  25% Actually have to WORK for it now
                                                                                                                                  20% have old bro networks
                                                                                                                                  5% are good at business so do not have to work past 6PM
                                                                                                                                  Nice summation.

                                                                                                                                  You already know where I stand on how the industry breaks down. It goes something like this. While it could vary a bit from 'the industry' and the visible industry, i.e. forums, this is about right.

                                                                                                                                  50% of the industry can't afford anything over $100.00
                                                                                                                                  75% of the industry can't afford anything over $250-500.00
                                                                                                                                  93% of the industry can't afford anything over $1000.00
                                                                                                                                  Most of these I would bet do not clear $35k a year in adult business revenue.

                                                                                                                                  Out of that 7%, maybe 2-3% are actually proactively buying.

                                                                                                                                  That means all of the domaineers, empires for sale, fire sale, content deals, established site sales, advertisers and traffic brokers, as well as the big ticket item sellers are actually chasing that 2-3% of the industry.

                                                                                                                                  Despite the board lore, I can assure you that the vast majority of this industry. Especially on the forums. Is not clearing $35,000.00 a year in revenue from adult. Most are hobbyists and part timers if they are even in the industry at all.

                                                                                                                                  My opinion is not mine alone, but comes from conversations with those I work with. High end script and content guys who also run into the exact same things I do. When you are selling higher ticket value items. You tend to see the underbelly.

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                                                                                                                                    • CarolCox
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                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      I basically work average daytime hours now, but I still check my e-mail every couple of hours for clients and customer service. In the "old days", I would be up quite late working on my site and handling correspondence. I take it much easier now

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