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  • Brujah
    Beer Money Baron
    • Jan 2001
    • 22157

    #16
    Originally posted by Barefootsies
    You think that Google would have all the info on chillingeffects.org, and remove hundreds if not thousands of sites from an index, and risk all kinds of lawsuits based on false claims?



    No offense but thanks for the laugh.
    Sounds like you don't understand DMCA.

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    • Barefootsies
      Choice is an Illusion
      • Feb 2005
      • 42635

      #17
      Originally posted by Agent 488
      google did. i knew plenty of people personally who had their index pages removed due to a false claim from perfect 10.
      Should You Email Your Members?

      Link1 | Link2 | Link3

      Enough Said.

      "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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      • Barefootsies
        Choice is an Illusion
        • Feb 2005
        • 42635

        #18
        Originally posted by Brujah
        Sounds like you don't understand DMCA.
        Unlike you, I am a content producer. I also send out DMCA's every week.

        Safe to say I know it a lot better than you.

        Should You Email Your Members?

        Link1 | Link2 | Link3

        Enough Said.

        "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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        • Robbie
          Leaner, Meaner, Faster
          • Aug 2002
          • 20960

          #19
          RYC kicks ass.

          DMCA'ing stuff off of Google is a tricky thing. You have to ask yourself the question: "Do I want it off Google, or do I want it down off the offending site"
          If you take it off the site then you can't dmca google for something that doesn't exist.

          So you have to first get it off google and then get it off the offending site. Eric and RYC have done a great job for us coordinating that task and helping me make sales by keeping piracy in check for me.
          -Robbie
          ClaudiaMarie.Com

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          • Brujah
            Beer Money Baron
            • Jan 2001
            • 22157

            #20
            Originally posted by Barefootsies
            Unlike you, I am a content producer. I also send out DMCA's every week.

            Safe to say I know it a lot better than you.

            Obviously not if you think that Google doesn't respond to fake DMCA claims.

            The DMCA provisions are pretty clear cut.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_...ack_provisions

            Takedown example

            Here's an example of how the takedown procedures would work:

            Alice puts a copy of Bob's song on her AOL-hosted website.

            Bob, searching the Internet, finds Alice's copy.

            Charlie, Bob's lawyer, sends a letter to AOL's designated agent (registered with the Copyright Office) including:
            contact information
            the name of the song that was copied
            the address of the copied song
            a statement that he has a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law.
            a statement that the information in the notification is accurate
            a statement that, under penalty of perjury, Charlie is authorized to act for the copyright holder
            his signature

            AOL takes the song down.

            AOL tells Alice that they have taken the song down.

            Alice now has the option of sending a counter-notice to AOL, if she feels the song was taken down unfairly. The notice includes
            contact information
            identification of the removed song
            a statement under penalty of perjury that Alice has a good faith belief the material was mistakenly taken down
            a statement consenting to the jurisdiction of Alice's local US Federal District Court, or, if outside the US, to a US Federal District Court in any jurisdiction in which AOL is found.
            her signature

            If Alice does file a valid counter-notice, AOL notifies Bob, then waits 10-14 business days for a lawsuit to be filed by Bob.

            If Bob does not file a lawsuit, then AOL must put the material back up.

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            • Barefootsies
              Choice is an Illusion
              • Feb 2005
              • 42635

              #21
              I knew we'd get some Robbie action.

              Originally posted by Robbie
              RYC kicks ass.

              DMCA'ing stuff off of Google is a tricky thing. You have to ask yourself the question: "Do I want it off Google, or do I want it down off the offending site"
              If you take it off the site then you can't dmca google for something that doesn't exist.

              So you have to first get it off google and then get it off the offending site. Eric and RYC have done a great job for us coordinating that task and helping me make sales by keeping piracy in check for me.
              Should You Email Your Members?

              Link1 | Link2 | Link3

              Enough Said.

              "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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              • hawkadu
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2006
                • 276

                #22
                I'm wondering which content they are talking about and even when the biggest tube sites are owned by the biggest sponsors themselves, who has asked them to remove the content?????

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                • Barefootsies
                  Choice is an Illusion
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 42635

                  #23
                  Originally posted by hawkadu
                  who has asked them to remove the content?????
                  Should You Email Your Members?

                  Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                  Enough Said.

                  "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                  • Robbie
                    Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 20960

                    #24
                    Huckleberried. lol
                    -Robbie
                    ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                    • Robbie
                      Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 20960

                      #25
                      Originally posted by hawkadu
                      I'm wondering which content they are talking about and even when the biggest tube sites are owned by the biggest sponsors themselves, who has asked them to remove the content?????
                      When you hire RYC to remove your content from offending sites that's what they do. And to answer your question: NO. They don't just go around working for people who don't pay them! lol

                      You have to pay them as a client in order to get their services.
                      -Robbie
                      ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                      • hawkadu
                        Confirmed User
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 276

                        #26
                        Hey Robbie, I know they won't work for anyone without money. What I wanted to say is tubes are full of content from biggest sponsors and they do nothing to remove it. If the industry has to get back on track, big sponsors must take action but they won't as long as they are making money.

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                        • Klen
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 32235

                          #27
                          I would love to see pornhub and keezemovies from google,but seems google doesnt care for some reason.And there is a plently of valid reason to remove them according to google rules,starting from copyright infrigment,lack of 2257 documentation,and buying hardlinks.

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                          • Robbie
                            Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 20960

                            #28
                            Originally posted by hawkadu
                            Hey Robbie, I know they won't work for anyone without money. What I wanted to say is tubes are full of content from biggest sponsors and they do nothing to remove it. If the industry has to get back on track, big sponsors must take action but they won't as long as they are making money.
                            You are absolutely right. It's killing affiliate sales to those particular sponsors. But you have to realize that a lot of them make their money in ways other than selling a membership to a surfer. It's a numbers game for the ones you are referring to and they don't give a damn about the actual "porn business"

                            It's just the reality of the situation. All I can do is make sure my stuff stays in the members area as much as I can so that when somebody joins up they have a membership that is actually worth something.

                            And if there are any affiliates left, they can at least know that if they send traffic to us they have a fighting chance of making a sale.
                            -Robbie
                            ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                            • Barefootsies
                              Choice is an Illusion
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 42635

                              #29
                              Originally posted by hawkadu
                              Hey Robbie, I know they won't work for anyone without money. What I wanted to say is tubes are full of content from biggest sponsors and they do nothing to remove it. If the industry has to get back on track, big sponsors must take action but they won't as long as they are making money.
                              That comes down to WHO holds the copyright per licensing agreement.

                              Not all companies license exclusively, nor do they all shoot their own content. So it would come down to the license and who hold the copyright for each individual production. Which a lot of times, not always, would be the original producer. So it would be up to them to enforce it.

                              If you shoot exclusively for a company, and they hold all rights including copyright. Then it would be up to THEM to enforce it. To understand why a lot of enforcement is not done, you actually have to understand the back end of content production and licensing.

                              Should You Email Your Members?

                              Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                              Enough Said.

                              "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                              • hawkadu
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 276

                                #30
                                I just wish all the copyright owners of the content take some action to bring all the tubes down. Those motherfuckers have almost killed the biz...

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