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  • Brujah
    Beer Money Baron
    • Jan 2001
    • 22157

    #1

    Do you have confidence in epassporte?

    Do you have confidence that epassporte will be back the same as ever and that your funds are safe?
    198
    Yes
    0%
    117
    No
    0%
    81
  • Toma
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2006
    • 1248

    #2
    one more epass thread... fire away :D
    .!.

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    • chronig
      Registered User
      • Oct 2009
      • 2653

      #3
      My honest opinion is that it will take a minimum of 6 months for *any* funds to be released, or they won't be released period

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      • Brujah
        Beer Money Baron
        • Jan 2001
        • 22157

        #4
        Originally posted by Toma
        one more epass thread... fire away :D
        I looked for a Yes or No poll, to see if there was a general consensus on the topic. Since there wasn't one yet, I thought I'd create one.

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        • Toma
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2006
          • 1248

          #5
          actually when i clicked first time there was no poll option...

          now it makes more sense ;)
          .!.

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          • Vick!
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2005
            • 6882

            #6
            I do.

            He have a nearly ideal business model up and running (at least until few days back), 99% chances are he won't ruin it.

            I am certain he would resolve it.
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            • 2intense
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              • Dec 2009
              • 12500

              #7
              50% yes and 50% no
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              • notime
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2003
                • 8027

                #8
                I have a gut feeling it will land on it's feet and all will be ok. If I was epassorte, I would fight to the death to keep this easy and brilliant system alive, next to the good revenues it should bring forth.

                But new international (and upcoming) laws and rules dictated from various governments in ACTA countries have to implemented perhaps, to stay compliant with the latest (IRS) compliancy rules I expect for the near future (for ANY debit/credit facility online, not just epassporte).

                Not to mention the competition, that is out to get them. They are having a field day for sure. Sooner or later, even the competition will have to meet up with the ever changing goverments dictated compliance rules.

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                • Argos88
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 1732

                  #9
                  Most people here answer "YES", not because they really have confidence, BUT because they have "hope" that their money will be recovered... But they know, the situation looks like irreversible at this point.

                  Man, you must be plain stupid to be a gallery submitter and have 10K in epass... a real idiot can only do something like that in year 2010.

                  .

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                  • brassmonkey
                    Pay It Forward
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 77390

                    #10
                    im not sure. i want to know why visa suspended service.
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                    • notime
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 8027

                      #11
                      Originally posted by brassmonkey
                      im not sure. i want to know why visa suspended service.
                      My best educated guess would be: "Know your customer". A new thing dictated by many goverments towards ANY financial institutions like banks, creditcard companies, mortgage companies, etc.

                      I had to send my copy ID to epass a while ago. Then the banks I use wanted to see me in their office with my drivers license and passport for identifiction (after 25 years of using the same bank...). Also Mastercard and Visa asked me to to that and even send a copy of the company ownership regarding shares / notary office papers behind the company registration in the chamber of commerce. I had no problems with that at all but it was some work to copy paperwork and send it to them.

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                      • Agent 488
                        Registered User
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 22511

                        #12
                        Originally posted by notime
                        My best educated guess would be: "Know your customer". A new thing dictated by many goverments towards ANY financial institutions like banks, creditcard companies, mortgage companies, etc.

                        I had to send my copy ID to epass a while ago. Then the banks I use wanted to see me in their office with my drivers license and passport for identifiction (after 25 years of using the same bank...). Also Mastercard and Visa asked me to to that and even send a copy of the company ownership regarding shares / notary office papers behind the company registration in the chamber of commerce. I had no problems with that at all but it was some work to copy paperwork and send it to them.
                        i agree. there was a huge push for the DOJ for voluntary compliance with know your customer regs for prepaid card companies over the summer. the deadlines were about the same time as the epass shut down.

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                        • CaptainHowdy
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                          • Dec 2004
                          • 94114

                          #13
                          Yes . . .

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                          • Brujah
                            Beer Money Baron
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 22157

                            #14
                            I can't remember paypal ever asking for my drivers license, a copy of a utility statement or other, etc... Do any of you?

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                            • Jarmusch
                               
                              • May 2003
                              • 12479

                              #15
                              Why wouldn't we have confidence in them? Are they having some kind of problem?

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                              • Klen
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 32234

                                #16
                                Originally posted by notime
                                I have a gut feeling it will land on it's feet and all will be ok. If I was epassorte, I would fight to the death to keep this easy and brilliant system alive, next to the good revenues it should bring forth.

                                But new international (and upcoming) laws and rules dictated from various governments in ACTA countries have to implemented perhaps, to stay compliant with the latest (IRS) compliancy rules I expect for the near future (for ANY debit/credit facility online, not just epassporte).

                                Not to mention the competition, that is out to get them. They are having a field day for sure. Sooner or later, even the competition will have to meet up with the ever changing goverments dictated compliance rules.
                                I dont know all this bullshit coming from Usa lawmakers and as result all epass users need to follow it.

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                                • Gordon1
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                                  • Aug 2009
                                  • 2523

                                  #17
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                                  • beta-tester
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                                    #18
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                                    • notime
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jun 2003
                                      • 8027

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Agent 488
                                      i agree. there was a huge push for the DOJ for voluntary compliance with know your customer regs for prepaid card companies over the summer. the deadlines were about the same time as the epass shut down.
                                      I just know what goes on in The Netherlands with "Know your customer".
                                      Two of my best friends are bank managers involved in those local projects in management, next to my own experiences. Why should it be different in other western countries?
                                      1+1=2 IMO

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                                      • nikki99
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                                        • Nov 2004
                                        • 23072

                                        #20
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                                        • brassmonkey
                                          Pay It Forward
                                          • Sep 2005
                                          • 77390

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Brujah
                                          I can't remember paypal ever asking for my drivers license, a copy of a utility statement or other, etc... Do any of you?
                                          nope never
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                                          • CaptainHowdy
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Dec 2004
                                            • 94114

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by nikki99
                                            YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS, I love epass and Michael O and everyone in this board
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                                            • Wiredoctor
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Dec 2001
                                              • 1632

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Jarmusch
                                              Why wouldn't we have confidence in them? Are they having some kind of problem?
                                              Obviously YES they are or can you get your money while others cannot?
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                                              • notime
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jun 2003
                                                • 8027

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Brujah
                                                I can't remember paypal ever asking for my drivers license, a copy of a utility statement or other, etc... Do any of you?
                                                Paypal gladly takes my money when it hits 10K or if I want to withdraw it to my bank because I do adult...funny thing is..I selected the "I do adult" select box when I signed up long ago...twice!

                                                6 months of FREE intrest points for my blocked paypal money (twice in a row the last years), before I could withdraw my adult money...
                                                I am most sure "double standard" Paypal did not mind it at all...banks charge/or give a lot more the 0% I got from them.

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                                                • CYF
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                                                  • Mar 2009
                                                  • 10973

                                                  #25
                                                  I'm not that confident that I'll see my money again, but I picked yes anyways. Call it wishful thinking, maybe.
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                                                  • chronig
                                                    Registered User
                                                    • Oct 2009
                                                    • 2653

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by nikki99
                                                    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS, I love epass and Michael O and everyone in this board
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                                                    • Arnox
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                                                      • Sep 2009
                                                      • 2169

                                                      #27
                                                      Yeah, they'll pull through.
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                                                      • Porko
                                                        SeeMyBucks.com
                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                        • 4014

                                                        #28
                                                        Yes I do. It´s a serious company.

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                                                        • chronig
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Oct 2009
                                                          • 2653

                                                          #29
                                                          YES is winning! Need more naysayers for NO to catch up.

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                                                          • fatfoo
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                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                            • 27763

                                                            #30
                                                            I do believe money is safe with epassporte.
                                                            Be careful about paypal - people can send payments and then reverse payments (for no good reason).
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                                                            • fatfoo
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                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                              • 27763

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by chronig
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                                                              • DaddyHalbucks
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                                                                • 18975

                                                                #32
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                                                                • signupdamnit
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                                                                  • Aug 2007
                                                                  • 6697

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by brassmonkey
                                                                  im not sure. i want to know why visa suspended service.
                                                                  Ditto. I'm inclined to think that they will be back and that almost everyone will get their money (whether it takes a month or six months, no idea) but I'm thinking that there are going to be some major changes.

                                                                  I'm also noticing a pattern of adult related businesses getting a lot more attention from the authorities and I think it will only get worse. I believe there are potentially other major players who are going to get hit as well (for different reasons). Those in the gray areas so to speak on things are at risk, even if they've been doing things that way for a long time.

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                                                                  • borked
                                                                    Totally Borked
                                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                                    • 6284

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                    I can't remember paypal ever asking for my drivers license, a copy of a utility statement or other, etc... Do any of you?
                                                                    yup, I had to on two occasions - once for my private PP account, because that hit some fund limit or something, another one to open a PP business account.

                                                                    On both occasions, I sent them the minimum required followed up with a call and the accounts were cleared within 1hour.

                                                                    I don't expect anything less for any accountable institute these days, and I've nothing to fear by sending those details in (so much as I 'trust' those companies not to abuse the personal details I send in).

                                                                    However, I've never opened an ePass account, since I've never trusted a company that's incorporated in a country where it doesn't do its primary business. At least PayPal is incorporated as a bank in my country, and so has to abide by my country's banking laws (which includes guaranteeing my funds)

                                                                    --edit
                                                                    PP isn't incorporated as a bank in my country, but in the EU (incorporated bank in Ireland), so it has to abide by EU banking regulations
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                                                                    • Caligari
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                                                                      #35
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                                                                      • nikki99
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                                                                        #36
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                                                                        • Chosen
                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                          • 63151

                                                                          #37
                                                                          I do....

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                                                                          • Spunky
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                                                                            • Jun 2002
                                                                            • 133978

                                                                            #38
                                                                            I think they will bounce back quickly

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                                                                            • FighterSpirit
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                                                                              • Aug 2006
                                                                              • 259

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by notime
                                                                              I have a gut feeling it will land on it's feet and all will be ok. If I was epassorte, I would fight to the death to keep this easy and brilliant system alive, next to the good revenues it should bring forth.

                                                                              But new international (and upcoming) laws and rules dictated from various governments in ACTA countries have to implemented perhaps, to stay compliant with the latest (IRS) compliancy rules I expect for the near future (for ANY debit/credit facility online, not just epassporte).

                                                                              Not to mention the competition, that is out to get them. They are having a field day for sure. Sooner or later, even the competition will have to meet up with the ever changing goverments dictated compliance rules.
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                                                                              • Magix
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                                                                                • Jun 2006
                                                                                • 2616

                                                                                #40
                                                                                I think history repeats itself from time to time and 5 years is a long time for webmasters forget what happened to one company....
                                                                                Sure I would love to have my funds back, but it just happened to soon to fast...NO warning no nothing...
                                                                                Do you imagine this happening to any legitimate bank ? No warning from Visa ( hey guys clean your mess up or we will, ya know shut you down )..

                                                                                And one more thing just hit my mind, NO official statement from Visa. "Well epass is maybe not the biggest client of Visa, but I'm sure they are not smallest...and when you doing something like this at least an official statement should be announced...
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                                                                                • lagcam
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                                                                                  • 2890

                                                                                  #41
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                                                                                  • u-Bob
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                                                                                    • Jul 2005
                                                                                    • 33063

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                    I can't remember paypal ever asking for my drivers license, a copy of a utility statement or other, etc... Do any of you?
                                                                                    they did once I had more than 1k in my account.

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                                                                                    • Tippy
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                      • 1772

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      PP has served my needs over the past 8 years as I only buy and sell names, I've only run into a few clients which requested to pay via eP, I was thinking about setting up an account but now I am thinking not. This will certainly hurt, having your dirty laundry spilled all over the internet isn't good for biz even if its all lies.

                                                                                      Good luck to them, big/large companies have fallen in the past so size doesnt matter.
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                                                                                      • 2intense
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                                                                                        • Dec 2009
                                                                                        • 12500

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                        I can't remember paypal ever asking for my drivers license, a copy of a utility statement or other, etc... Do any of you?
                                                                                        yes,i think i was asked to verify my account after i got 2000$ in my account
                                                                                        Last edited by 2intense; 09-06-2010, 01:48 PM.
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                                                                                        • brassmonkey
                                                                                          Pay It Forward
                                                                                          • Sep 2005
                                                                                          • 77390

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by 2intense
                                                                                          yes,i think i was asked to verify my account after i got 2000$ in my account
                                                                                          thank the nigerians scammers
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                                                                                          • 2intense
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                                                                                            • Dec 2009
                                                                                            • 12500

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by brassmonkey
                                                                                            thank the nigerians scammers
                                                                                            huh ??? are you drunk?
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                                                                                            • HomerSimpson
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                                                                                              #47
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                                                                                                • Denny
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                                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                                  • 17421

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by 2intense
                                                                                                  yes,i think i was asked to verify my account after i got 2000$ in my account
                                                                                                  same here...

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                                                                                                  • chronig
                                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                                    • Oct 2009
                                                                                                    • 2653

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by fatfoo
                                                                                                    I do believe money is safe with epassporte.
                                                                                                    Be careful about paypal - people can send payments and then reverse payments (for no good reason).
                                                                                                    fatfoo, if I don't like your descriptions, I have every right to reverse the 5$ sent.
                                                                                                    Last edited by chronig; 09-06-2010, 02:21 PM.

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