The Duck

Somebody sent me a link to this video with Max Hardcore doing a scene with a model. I was shocked, I knew he did a lot of really on the edge stuff but this is just rape.

http://www.findtubes.com/movies/52/5...by-max-part-4/

I say fuck Max Hardcore and let him rot in jail. I don't care if you say she signed up for it or whatever, she is probably an addict and willing to do anything for money and he took advantage of her precarious situation. It's obvious if he had any kind of humanity in him he should have stopped the scene when he noticed that she was in great distress. What a disgusting man.

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Darrah

What was the name of the girl that Max literally sat & shit on her face with her screaming and begging for help? No one on the crew helped. They just continued with their "job". But one camera man did get up and leave. Anyone who defends that sadist is a sadist themselves. He brought more harm to this industry by what he did because he allowed the authorities to come in. The Max Hardcores out there should be run out of the industry for the sake of the women he abuses and for the future of this industry.

escorpio

He's a piece of shit that got what he deserved. I don't give a fuck what anyone says.

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Darkhorse

Was distressing to watch you would have to be blind not to see she was not into that at all...

GatorB

And she could have got up and left anytime she wanted. And yes I think Max is a POS, but unless someone shows proof she was being held against her will she simply could have said "fuck this" and left.

BIGTYMER

He isn't called Max Hardcore for no reason.

babymaker

Pretty small lol i assumed he had a bigger dick and considering the camera makes a dick look much bigger damn lol.

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Farang

That's hot.

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greg80

is that the video where he says she needs to bring her little (15 y.o.) sister so that he can fuck her too?

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nation-x

she looked drugged to me...

Rangermoore

I agree.. he is getting traded up and down the cell block for a pack of newports...I hope to meet him some day ....just to spit in his face..

VikingMan

Oh please and are you one of they guys who gets offended when these girls are referred to as "whores"? Most of these girls refer to themselves and each other as whores. And I bet the treatment she gets from the degenerate losers she "dates" is much worse than anything Max ever gave her with his tiny 4" viagra induced erection.

Seriously most of these girls love the abuse and will even seek it out in their personal lives. My GF does not or will ever do porn but she is a young chick and LOVES getting abused in bed such as choking her out, slapping, name calling, etc. Basically exactly what you see in the video you posted. Try it sometime to a random girl and I bet she comes back for more.

Va2k

You're all morons, like someone said she could of got up and left, that is NOT rape! If this isn't your cup of tea so be it! But to put a man in jail for shooting porn is plain wrong! I agree yes he is over board yes he is a mean prick to women, but they (the women ) could of gotten up and left could of went to the police could of done a lot of things if they didn't want him to do that, but NO they let him finish and took his money and went on.

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Va2k

No fucking kidding, my ex wanted me to choke her and cut her and slap her durning sex but I couldn't hell I couldn't even call her a whore while given it to her. That is just me. *shrugs* I wasn't raised or ever had the urge to do as she wanted. I explained that to her and we are now just friends. It's no different then a man wanting to be treated the same way by a woman.

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Relentless

Being against what he did and being against the way he was prosecuted are not contradictory positions. Obscenity law is a bad joke.

He was convicted in court of breaking a rule that is literaly defined by courts as 'we know it when we see it.' The only actress who testified said she was treated well, was over 18 at the time and fully consented. Nothing shown at the trial was in violation of any rule of law.

If you believe someone is doing something wrong you MUST either find an existing law they have specifically broken or put a new specific law in place preventing them from doing something again.

What people are against... and what society should never be allowed to do.. is jailing a man who is innocent of breaking any actual written laws. How much you dislike someone or what they did does not change the fact that they are innocent until proven guilty of violating an actual written law.

They could have tried to prosecute him for hate crimes, for some form of nonconsensual sexual assault, for 2257 violations, or for any other crime... If they had proof and witnesses and could make a strong enough case to convict him. They chose not to... either because they had no proof or because they thought it would just be easier to use the broken obscenity standard which requires no proof and completely lacks the specificity that all other Constitutional and criminal law depends upon. That is as wrong and MUCH more dangerous to
people living in the United State than anything a porn producer could ever have done to erode the rights of others.

The government shit on the face of ordinary people by relying on bogus obscenity standards... and most of this industry sat idly by like cameramen just doing their job.

Paul Markham

I met him and he's a shit to women on and off camera. He's into what he's doing to them. His porn is for losers like him who have a grudge against women.

I can never understand why people support him.

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life

i know the video, and if i remember correctly 15 is giving a few extra years of credit.

that being said i believe this is the exact video that max posted a video of AFTER shooting with him talking with them girl and her saying she enjjoyed it all, was consenting, would doit again, yadda yadda....

brand0n

now whats funny is that max has shot that girl like 3 times.

please explain to me how its rape if shes came back for 2 more shoots....

something to think about folks...

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VikingMan

Yeah I don't feel comfortable or get off in any way by choking girls out but if they demand it I will do it. That video of Max and that girl was actually kind of tame IMO. It was just some throat fucking with a little slap at the end. Seriously what is the big deal? Have none of you guys ever gotten laid by a total sex freak before? Jesus! I guess you guys "make love" to a woman and if that is what you like then fine. But many people love abuse during sex. Deal with it.

SomeCreep

That scene was great

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The Duck

Look at her face, she is scared and uncomfortable and just wants to get as far away from this fucker as possible. Why do you have to make an exit video with so many leading questions and not just stating of consent, date and name? Looks to me like he knows he is doing something wrong and attempts to cover his ass as much as possible.

Yes, some models know what they are getting themselves into, some may even like it but then we have the naive girls looking for a quick buck who have nowhere else to turn and he is quick to go in and degrade, defile and use them in ways that he apparently finds great joy in doing when a true content creator should identify this and label them not suited for his scenes. He seems like a sexual predator. God knows what goes on when the camera is not on. Utterly appalling.



The same model at a later date talking about her experience with Max Hardcore.

Something tells me they instated the obscenity law just to get to fuckers like him, but what do I know.

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TheDA

If it's the same vid I'm thinking about, it's one that was credited on here the other week with putting him behind bars.

L-Pink

Gotta agree with ******* above post ... I tend to become involved in dom/sub relationships where the girls want/need/ask to be abused. Many women crave humiliation and abuse in the bedroom. A couple even like pain, and refer to themselves as pain sluts.

My current g/f is considerably younger than me and is really into being tied up, whipped then fucked. Go figure that out ..... I know my ability to treat women as "whores" AND "princesses" is the reason I have such intense relationships.

Don't believe me ? Check out some of the alt-type dating sites.


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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life

no shit she looks out of whack, she's the sort of chick who goes and does a max hardcore flick. she's fucked up

that being said i agree with you that he's a sick fuck who genuinely enjoys degrading the girls he shoots with, but everyone signed the papers, everyone went down the same road, and everyone was consenting. was it obscene? absolutely. is it illegally obscene? i don't think it should be really. does that make it right? no, that doesn't make it right. listening to the guy talk is creepy as fuck. if you don't like it, don't watch it.

max got what was coming to him. he was pushing the absolute limits, in probably the worst fucking place he could choose legally. the law bit him and it's his own damn fault. god, who would actually want to be in the porn biz in florida?

The Duck

I have never met a girl who likes freaky sex who will cry and shake of discomfort with a look on her face like she wished she was far far away.

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baddog

This reminds me of the time 10+ years ago that one of my affiliates contacted me about these guys that would pick up girls hitchhiking, force then to have sex, then drop them off in the middle of nowhere.

He insisted something had to be done about it.

seeandsee

they are paid for it, its brutal but...

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LexiLexxx

The fact that he makes the industry look bad, is enough to have him be in trouble and put in jail. When you push the limit's, something bound to break.

VikingMan

This girl is obviously on some sort of drugs in the second video that she made herself. She seems much more together and in a calm state of mind in the exit interview with Max. Max does sound like a total creep in the video because he is a total creep. She hints at the idea that Max might have been holding a gun to her head. WTF?!! LOL Didn't Linda Lovelace use that lie about 30 years prior? She says that she agreed to everything in the exit video because she was trying to trick Max into allowing her to leave the house. Yeah ok girl keep talking. Like anyone with more than 2 brain cells believes you.

She is exactly what we expect of a girl would agree to be in a Max Hardcore video.....a total piece of lying drugged out trash. 99% chance she seeks out physically and verbally abusive men in her personal life, falls in love with them, and allows them to spend all her money she makes from hooking. Same story over and over and it will never change.

DirtyDanza

FREE MAX.....

Max would support each and every one of you .. to see you all bash him is a disgrace to this industry...

how about this for peanuts

you hate max's work well I think girl on girl is obscene

girl on girl is not natural ....

now argue that ...... at least max sticks to a boy and a girl... ive filmed with him many many times.. more than I can count... he is great to the girls... no one ever talks about the good only the finished product of video... let me tell you there is TONS you don't see... max is a great guy as far as I can see... thats the bottom line...

ive personally filmed at least 25 girls that max has filmed ... im sure more but for the sake of this argument ill say 25...

not ONE complaint

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AaronM

I think it's the same video too. I been wondering as I read through this thread.

slayer69

that shit is fucked up.

Ladyboy King

You guys are idiots and miss the larger point, regardless if you like what he shoots or not. The same could be said about gay sex. That turns the stomach of many just as much as Max's scenes turn you off.

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Joshua G

Who are you to judge that the scene is a rape. The only person who can make that call is in the video. What Max does is abusive & extreme. But if the ladies consent, & he enjoys doing it, & customers enjoy viewing it, then what is your reason he belongs in jail, other than you don't like it?

AaronM

I'd say it doesn't get much more accurate than that.

Her friends and family found out what she did and she is now lying to cover it up. This happens ALL THE TIME in our industry where models think they need to save face after being discovered by somebody they know. The more hardcore it is, the bigger the lies.

I remember having this conversation with the owner of Net Video Girls where friends and family were pissed that he tricked their girls into fucking him when they showed up for a "Calendar Girl" audition.

Yes Max is rough. Yes Max is over the top. But guess what? EVERYBODY knows who Max hardcore is yet girls have shot with him for years by choice.

Joshua G

its about protecting his freedom to make movies. In the end he is in jail for making a movie between consenting adults. He was not convicted nor accused of sexual assault.

Everyone can find things that offend them in porn. But when people in power start saying the content they dont like belongs in jail, then there is no freedom of speech. I gotta believe you would defend his right to speak even though you dont like his content.

The Porn Nerd

Well, there's 'filming the sexual act' and then there's PORN. Max would fall into the second category.

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Darrah

Were you there?

Darrah

I believe Rebeca Linares had no clue who he was when she was lead to his motel room by her manager and held there against her will. The manager knew she didn't know who he was, couldn't speak English, and left her there when she was screaming and crying. Then there's also what he did to Roxy Jezel also.

Darrah

People have eyes and can judge what they see. And you can't consent when you're a drug addict or mentally ill.

Darrah

Gay sex isn't rape. How you can compare the two like that is mind numbing.

Darrah

The women don't complain because they can't. They've been told by the people around them to shut up or else their careers will be ruined. It's happened many times when it comes to Max Hardcore.

Darrah

Being a drug addict or being mentally ill is probably the reason. Then there's also they might desperately need the money. Wives are raped all the time and many never leave depending on whatever reason making them stay.

Darrah

Go to the police? Really? And what exactly would the police do? Porn stars can't get raped, remember. Stefani Morgan went to the police and nothing was ever done to her rapist. Many women in whatever aspect of the adult industry are raped all the time and laughed out of police stations when they file a rape report.

Max is in prison because he wants to be. He knew what the law is and pushed it further because he wanted the attention and for people like you to make him some kind of a fucking martyr.

fatfoo

I stick to my "consent has to be given for sex" theory.

Did she consent to beginning this kind of sex? If yes, then it is okay.

What happens if something happens in the middle of sex and someone wants to back out in the middle of the sex? I don't know. It's complicated.

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IllTestYourGirls

She did 2 more scenes after the one posted in the OP?

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VikingMan

Porn is NOT Hollywood you fucktard. Yes in Hollywood if you fuck with the wrong person your career could be ruined but in porn you can fuck over a producer and even his best buddies will still hire you.