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  • Fabien
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2003
    • 4789

    #1

    What on earth is happening with signups ?

    What on earth is happening with signups ?

    It is going down way more faster that i could ever imagine. We're not talking about months here but weeks.

    At least on my end. Are you in the same boat ?
    Worst month ever after being online for over 13 years. No not true if i count 1997 as i was starting.
    Less signups equals less rebills going down, down down.

    Worst ratio:
    1:45 000 (niche/sponsor)
    I can't send 45 000 uniques qualified surfers (targeted/clicked traffic) everyday to every niches i work in and to ever sponsors. I don't own tube sites.

    Don't know what i'll do
  • ninavain
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    • Jan 2004
    • 6268

    #2
    have you heard of the "tube site"

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    • EscortBiz
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      • 19422

      #3
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      • martinsc
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        • Jun 2005
        • 27047

        #4
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        • closer
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2005
          • 1707

          #5
          Martin is in a gif mood to cheer ya up

          Anyways, still 4 more days left in this month, maybe it will turn the tables a bit?

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          • BVF
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            • Jan 2002
            • 13975

            #6
            Sorry about that man....Best you can do is look forward to next month.

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            • SEO Expert
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              • Oct 2009
              • 428

              #7
              queue in idiots with "we are doing great!" in 3..2..1...

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              • sexdatesj
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                • Jun 2009
                • 1078

                #8
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                • MrDeiz
                  • May 2008
                  • 9802

                  #9
                  yeah, things aren't going good and it's everywhere, not news

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                  • fuzebox
                    making it rain
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 22351

                    #10
                    Wow, it's been several days since an "omg sales are gone, the end of the world is here" thread from Fabien... I had feared the worst.

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                    • Agent 488
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 22511

                      #11
                      best month ever.

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                      • Domain Broker
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 2427

                        #12
                        Doing great here as usual

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                        • RadicalSights
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                          • Mar 2009
                          • 1595

                          #13
                          Originally posted by SEO Expert
                          queue in idiots with "we are doing great!" in 3..2..1...
                          they've shown up

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                          • escorpio
                            can kick your ass
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 23487

                            #14
                            I feel your pain.
                            Unvaxxed, still alive.

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                            • Barefootsies
                              Choice is an Illusion
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 42635

                              #15
                              One word:

                              Processing.

                              Declines. Failure to rebill. Credit line decreases.
                              Should You Email Your Members?

                              Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                              Enough Said.

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                              • seeandsee
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                                • Mar 2006
                                • 50945

                                #16
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                                • selena
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2004
                                  • 7994

                                  #17
                                  What are these signups that you speak of?
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                                  • pimpware
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                                    • Jan 2006
                                    • 1673

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by SEO Expert
                                    queue in idiots with "we are doing great!" in 3..2..1...
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                                    • SuzzyQ
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Dec 2006
                                      • 1557

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Fabien
                                      What on earth is happening with signups ?

                                      It is going down way more faster that i could ever imagine. We're not talking about months here but weeks.

                                      At least on my end. Are you in the same boat ?
                                      Worst month ever after being online for over 13 years. No not true if i count 1997 as i was starting.
                                      Less signups equals less rebills going down, down down.

                                      Worst ratio:
                                      1:45 000 (niche/sponsor)
                                      I can't send 45 000 uniques qualified surfers (targeted/clicked traffic) everyday to every niches i work in and to ever sponsors. I don't own tube sites.

                                      Don't know what i'll do
                                      1) Still in a Recession.
                                      2) Income tax time and people are using the refunds to pay credit cards.
                                      3) Price of gas is starting to go up.
                                      4) People uneasy about the "recovery'.
                                      5) Obamacare just started taking money from everyone's pay checks.

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                                      • CaptainHowdy
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Dec 2004
                                        • 94727

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by SEO Expert
                                        queue in idiots with "we are doing great!" in 3..2..1...
                                        I'm doing great... smuggling drugs across the bolivian border.

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                                        • AmeliaG
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jan 2003
                                          • 10662

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by SuzzyQ
                                          1) Still in a Recession.
                                          2) Income tax time and people are using the refunds to pay credit cards.
                                          3) Price of gas is starting to go up.
                                          4) People uneasy about the "recovery'.
                                          5) Obamacare just started taking money from everyone's pay checks.

                                          Doesn't the healthcare stuff not kick in until 2014? Maybe people are uneasy because of it and thus not buying, but I don't think there could be any new deductions from paychecks already, could there?
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                                          • Fabien
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 4789

                                            #22
                                            On my end it's like credit cards are banned from the web (almost) Very very odd. In fact, i just don't dig it. Of course i knew it was coming and was preparing for it but jesus christ !

                                            Anyways, thanks for your inputs guys.

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                                            • Fabien
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 4789

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by EscortBiz
                                              webcam sites, dating, mainstream etc all down
                                              It's the only thing pulling i know, but you have to get the traffic first and i ain't got much. I'm working my ass on it trust me.

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                                              The dolls are picking up tho. We'll see...

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                                              • billywatson
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2002
                                                • 3281

                                                #24
                                                You know what's weird...we're not up.

                                                And we're not down.

                                                We've been flat. For a while now. I'd like to think it's cause we don't miss updates, but who knows.

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                                                • BVF
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                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                  • 13975

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by billywatson
                                                  You know what's weird...we're not up.

                                                  And we're not down.

                                                  We've been flat. For a while now. I'd like to think it's cause we don't miss updates, but who knows.
                                                  With others complaining as much as they are, I'm happy to take flat.

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                                                    #26
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                                                    • escorpio
                                                      can kick your ass
                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 23487

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                                                      Change you can believe in!
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                                                      • Cash
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                                                        • Feb 2002
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                                                        #28
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                                                        • clicker
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                                                          • Jun 2006
                                                          • 1113

                                                          #29

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                                                          • nakeddutch
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Oct 2009
                                                            • 11509

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Fabien
                                                            What on earth is happening with signups ?

                                                            It is going down way more faster that i could ever imagine. We're not talking about months here but weeks.

                                                            At least on my end. Are you in the same boat ?
                                                            Worst month ever after being online for over 13 years. No not true if i count 1997 as i was starting.
                                                            Yes, there is something going around....See our post/poll
                                                            when we predicted we will get ONE SALE from a hun listing...
                                                            Question: How the fuck can a person predict how many sales
                                                            you'll get BEFORE it happens?
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                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                              • 19010

                                                              #31
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                                                              • Rochard
                                                                Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                • 75733

                                                                #32
                                                                I'm seeing the direct opposite really - Ratios are slowing coming down, traffic is slowly going up, and sales and rebills are both improving.
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                                                                • Sid70
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                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                  • 16413

                                                                  #33
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                                                                  • biskoppen
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                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                    • 5809

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Banks are denying insane amount of cards right now.. the ACAI guys, which has been all over the place lately, is generating huge cb numbers because of their crazy shady business.. this has opened up the eyes of the banks on what's going on and they're running away scared right now..

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                                                                    • V_RocKs
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                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                      • 32447

                                                                      #35
                                                                      2006 - 1:500
                                                                      2007 - 1:750
                                                                      2008 - 1:950
                                                                      2009 - 1:1400
                                                                      2010 - 1:1700

                                                                      Same traffic... same sites I am sending to...Same sources for the traffic (mostly google).

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                                                                      • Kroy
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Sep 2005
                                                                        • 413

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by billywatson
                                                                        You know what's weird...we're not up.

                                                                        And we're not down.

                                                                        We've been flat. For a while now. I'd like to think it's cause we don't miss updates, but who knows.
                                                                        You produce great content - constantly. You should be up. But I notice your marketing presence, or rather the lack thereof. That's why.
                                                                        You rock. You are talented. You are consistent. Hell, you are even funny. You should be growing, not stagnant.
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                                                                        • Kroy
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                                                                          • Sep 2005
                                                                          • 413

                                                                          #37
                                                                          A lot of you state the problem already - you expect the same (or better results) while doing the same thing you've done in the past.
                                                                          Are you marketing like it's 1997? Then don't be surprised to see those results you are getting now.
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                                                                          • fatfoo
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                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                            • 27763

                                                                            #38
                                                                            1:45 000 = very bad ratio. Good luck with that.
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                                                                            • Lace
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                              • 16116

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by nakeddutch
                                                                              Yes, there is something going around....See our post/poll
                                                                              when we predicted we will get ONE SALE from a hun listing...
                                                                              Question: How the fuck can a person predict how many sales
                                                                              you'll get BEFORE it happens?
                                                                              You gotta figure it out....
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                                                                                • RegUser
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                                                  • 1472

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  I don't know why some just keep on harping back to bullshit. No its not free porn on the net, no something is wrong with you or your tricks, must be a seasonal thing, must be due to effect of gravity around this time.
                                                                                  Fuck this
                                                                                  The sales are down because there aren't many processors left standing and those who are still around were hosed very big time just around end of Jan. They have simply turned off the taps almost completly and sales are just tricking in once in a while. From 14-15 sales a day I am down to 14 to 15 in two weeks.
                                                                                  The day CCBill folds up, and that is not too far off, this industry will be history. Visa and MC have performed a coup de grace.

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                                                                                  • Kroy
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Sep 2005
                                                                                    • 413

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by RegUser
                                                                                    I don't know why some just keep on harping back to bullshit. No its not free porn on the net, no something is wrong with you or your tricks, must be a seasonal thing, must be due to effect of gravity around this time.
                                                                                    Fuck this
                                                                                    The sales are down because there aren't many processors left standing and those who are still around were hosed very big time just around end of Jan. They have simply turned off the taps almost completly and sales are just tricking in once in a while. From 14-15 sales a day I am down to 14 to 15 in two weeks.
                                                                                    The day CCBill folds up, and that is not too far off, this industry will be history. Visa and MC have performed a coup de grace.
                                                                                    What?
                                                                                    This has nothing to do with 'processors'. Believe me, 'processing' is fine.
                                                                                    Kroy
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                                                                                    • IllTestYourGirls
                                                                                      Ah My Balls
                                                                                      • Feb 2007
                                                                                      • 14311

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                                      One word:

                                                                                      Processing.

                                                                                      Declines. Failure to rebill. Credit line decreases.
                                                                                      This plus 1000.

                                                                                      With that said, this month has been my best month in adult ever but with the shittiest ratios ever.

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                                                                                      • BV
                                                                                        wtf
                                                                                        • Sep 2001
                                                                                        • 10914

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Kroy
                                                                                        What?
                                                                                        This has nothing to do with 'processors'. Believe me, 'processing' is fine.
                                                                                        How do you know? How many transactions do you do a day?

                                                                                        I invite you (or anyone else for that matter) to run a decline report.

                                                                                        Look specifically at how many (do not honor) declines you are getting on rebills.

                                                                                        how in the fuck can you get a "do not honor" decline on a rebill? (because the card obviously was used at one time for the initial sale right?

                                                                                        so what's happening is banks are cracking down on what consumers can buy with their cards. specifically "high risk" transactions processed by adult billing companies

                                                                                        times are not good

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                                                                                        • Kroy
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Sep 2005
                                                                                          • 413

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by BV
                                                                                          How do you know? How many transactions do you do a day?

                                                                                          I invite you (or anyone else for that matter) to run a decline report.

                                                                                          Look specifically at how many (do not honor) declines you are getting on rebills.

                                                                                          how in the fuck can you get a "do not honor" decline on a rebill? (because the card obviously was used at one time for the initial sale right?

                                                                                          so what's happening is banks are cracking down on what consumers can buy with their cards. specifically "high risk" transactions processed by adult billing companies

                                                                                          times are not good
                                                                                          Between all my clients I guarantee you they bill more than you do. Increased scrubbing is only a problem is you're living on small margins. I know this goes against what a lot of folks WANT to be the case but it's true.

                                                                                          I see the changes, sure. But do they cause me to say 'IT'S ALL GOING TO HELL!?!!" ? No. It's a slight change. It is not the end of the world.
                                                                                          Kroy
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                                                                                          • directfiesta
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                                            • 30135

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            How long did you think that ' adult ' webmasters could fuck surfers ( clients ) over and over again ?

                                                                                            Just today, there is a thread a a guy looking for processing as long as the rebill is hidden way below the join button ....

                                                                                            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                            • bdld
                                                                                              $100,000
                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                              • 11452

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              it's not really the tubes or the economy, it's the billing that's the issue. i know this because of drastic day to day and week to week changes. sometimes they let sales through sometimes they don't. that's why a lot of the work you do is almost irrelevant.

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                                                                                              • 18teens
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                                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                                • 1605

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                The past 5 days have been totally fucked up for me.

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                                                                                                • SomeCreep
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                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                                  • 26118

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Fabien
                                                                                                  What on earth is happening with signups ?
                                                                                                  The problem is tube sites. Unless you double or triple your traffic, it is likely you will continue to see a decline in your sales. Ratios are just bad these days. It's probably not your fault. Surfers aren't paying for porn like they did before tube sites.

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                                                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                                                    • 32195

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Traffic level the same? How about the sources of traffic, are they same? Finally, which sponsors are you sending them to?

                                                                                                    Maybe if you're not running tubes, your traffic has been TUBE-DESENSITIZED? ie., the expectations of your surfers have changed?

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