Healthcare - A Privilege Or A Right?
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I agree that there are some good things in there, and if the Dems opted to make a smaller bill with the things people DO like, instead of trying to shove the bigger bill up our asses, they would have saved face. It's the dumbest political move I've ever seen.Here is some info from Newsweek.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/233890
In the article it says, " a new NEWSWEEK Poll shows that while a majority of Americans say they oppose Obama's plan, a majority actually support the key features of the legislation."
Further down it says: " The NEWSWEEK Poll asked respondents about eight health-care-reform provisions that Obama and many Democrats in Congress have generally supported. It found that the majority of Americans supported five of those provisions, three by particularly large margins. Eighty-one percent agreed with the creation of a new insurance marketplace, the exchange, for individual subscribers to compare plans and buy insurance at a competitive rate. Seventy-six percent thought health insurers should be required to cover anyone who applies, including those with preexisting conditions; and 75 percent agreed with requiring most businesses to offer health insurance to their employees, with incentives for small-business owners to do so."
People don't like the overall bill, but there is stuff in there that people do lie. I think this also shows two things that I find interesting. 1. It really shows that nobody really knows what is in the bill and what isn't and 2. the republicans have done a masterful job of demonizing it. People hear about it and instantly think there is nothing of value in it when that is just not the case. I don't support it as a whole, but there are some good things in it.Greed is Good
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Dude, you only post in political threads.... hahaha... again, you're a nobody, a shit stain, that has nothing and posts in political threads on gfy - and you think it's cool.
Haha, any other spew you want to say?
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Last edited by The Demon; 03-18-2010, 04:15 PM.Greed is Good
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Brown won in a liberal state in an odd election in a state that already has universal healthcare and he ran on a promise to end the obamacare. It was an odd election at best. But what about that house seat in NY that has been held by republicans since the civil war being won by a democrat? That isn't a good sign for the republicans and it is something they don't want to see.Kane, there isn't strong anti republican sentiment out there anymore. It's strong liberal/Obama Administration sentiment. Strong anti republican sentiment didn't win Scott Brown Massachusetts. While I'm not saying Republicans are back in the good graces with the people, there's a VERY good chance that they'll win back both the house and the senate. Maybe then shit will get done.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/126503/De...eferences.aspx This poll from March 9th shows that democrats still have a slight lead over republicans in generic polls.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...l/original.pdf This poll (it is the NY Times/CBS so you have to take with a grain of salt) says that 57% of those surveyed see the republicans in an unfavorable light. In that same poll most of the people asked blame Bush for the problems we are having and congress a close second. So the republicans will have to convince these people that they are different than they were just a few years ago.
There are many other polls out there that show the republican approval rating hovering at somewhere in the low to mid 40's. I'm not saying the democrats are doing significantly better, but the republicans are not the golden child they suddenly want to make themselves out to be.Comment
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I am busy and do not have the inclination to take the time to research the matter for you...and in addition I see that Kane has presented one poll (their are others). In addition polls show the primary concern people have about the current bills are not really the content of the bills but the cost to the taxpayers they may generate. According to the CBO it will not cost the taxpayer but in fact will save the taxpayer money in the long run.
I saw a former head of the CBO interviewed and he stated that the CBO can only score what they are presented with at the time and for various reasons they never have all of the information before them that they should have and in addition he said that CBO scoring can be off as much as 50% one way or the other.
I have lived long enough to know that estimated costs of any government program usually end up being several times higher than predicted.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Like I said, that might not be the exact number, but is close. Most of the issues they agree on, but the ones they disagree on they are light years apart on.
Sure, they saw the chance to do something big and good and instead of coming together as a group and settling for good, everyone wanted a piece of the pie and they tried to do something grand and it bit them in the ass.I think the Dems blew their chance at "some good things", with their ego and unwillingless to be realistic.
I think they are doing what the democrats did when the republicans held both houses and the white house for the first six years of the Bush administration. They are playing the party that is against it. Whatever the democrats want, the republicans are against it and they threaten to filibuster everything. The difference is the democrats took the bait and fought to get 60 votes on everything instead of forcing the republicans to follow through on their threats.Can you blame the Republicans? The Democrats have achieved what amounts to political suicide. I actually don't see the Republicans being cocky though. They're doing the smart thing right now and playing "representatives for the people". Being cocky would be a terrible political maneuver at this point, when they have everything in the bag.
The republicans are being cocky. Did you see the videos from CPAC? They basically stood on stage and taught classes on how anyone who doesn't agree with them are idiots. Maybe it will work, but I think they feel they are doing better than they really are.Comment
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They're not the golden child yet.. But if the Dems keep going the way they have been, it's over for them in November. And again, I don't place too much faith in polls, otherwise Obama is the most hated president in history after only 1 year, and the Congressional Democrats just suck.Brown won in a liberal state in an odd election in a state that already has universal healthcare and he ran on a promise to end the obamacare. It was an odd election at best. But what about that house seat in NY that has been held by republicans since the civil war being won by a democrat? That isn't a good sign for the republicans and it is something they don't want to see.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/126503/De...eferences.aspx This poll from March 9th shows that democrats still have a slight lead over republicans in generic polls.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...l/original.pdf This poll (it is the NY Times/CBS so you have to take with a grain of salt) says that 57% of those surveyed see the republicans in an unfavorable light. In that same poll most of the people asked blame Bush for the problems we are having and congress a close second. So the republicans will have to convince these people that they are different than they were just a few years ago.
There are many other polls out there that show the republican approval rating hovering at somewhere in the low to mid 40's. I'm not saying the democrats are doing significantly better, but the republicans are not the golden child they suddenly want to make themselves out to be.Greed is Good
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