Healthcare - A Privilege Or A Right?

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  • The Demon
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2003
    • 7336

    #181
    Holy shit bft3k you didnt read anything cosmic wrote. Moron..
    Greed is Good

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    • BFT3K
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Dec 2005
      • 10764

      #182
      Originally posted by Dirty Dane
      It's a right. No one should ask their kids for paying if they get sick or need help.
      Absolutely! Even the court of GFY has voted 2 to 1 that healthcare is a RIGHT!

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      • baddog
        So Fucking Banned
        • Apr 2001
        • 107089

        #183
        Originally posted by BFT3K
        Absolutely! Even the court of GFY has voted 2 to 1 that healthcare is a RIGHT!


        I fear The Demon may be correct about you.

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        • JaneB

          #184
          Originally posted by joshgirls
          having health care run by greedy insurance companies or by overpaid federal bureaucrats really is nothing but picking which poison you prefer.

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          • BFT3K
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Dec 2005
            • 10764

            #185
            Originally posted by Vendzilla
            He ran on transparency
            Yet in an interview yesterday, wouldn't answer one question asked of him

            He ran on passing bills on their own merits
            Yet they added Student aid to the health-care bill to create savings to get it past the CBO so they could pass it on a 51% vote, very sleazy thing to do.

            He lied on all his issues so far, so trusting that this health-care bill is right for us is a fairy tale
            Well, I guess when YOU become president YOU can make the decisions.

            Let me know when you start your campaign. Maybe I'll donate to your cause.

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            • u-Bob
              there's no $$$ in porn
              • Jul 2005
              • 33063

              #186
              Originally posted by AmeliaG
              It is not a right or a privilege. It is a combination of commodity and service. These are not things someone else should get to decide whether to grant or not. Would you ask whether warm clothes or a nice car are a right or a privilege?
              finally !

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              • BFT3K
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Dec 2005
                • 10764

                #187
                Originally posted by baddog


                I fear The Demon may be correct about you.
                I think he has a secret crush on you.

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                • TheDoc
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 13827

                  #188
                  Originally posted by Vendzilla
                  He ran on transparency
                  Yet in an interview yesterday, wouldn't answer one question asked of him

                  He ran on passing bills on their own merits
                  Yet they added Student aid to the health-care bill to create savings to get it past the CBO so they could pass it on a 51% vote, very sleazy thing to do.

                  He lied on all his issues so far, so trusting that this health-care bill is right for us is a fairy tale
                  Not even one question? So you don't think he maybe had something else going on?

                  "He" ran on passing bills.... "They added" - ding ding ding... If he was to hold a sword to them, you guys would be screaming dictator.

                  He lied on all issues? Really, all issues? That's a huge reach that not even Fox News would try to stretch past the people.
                  ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                  It's all disambiguation

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                  • Vendzilla
                    Biker Gnome
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 23200

                    #189
                    Originally posted by TheDoc
                    Not even one question? So you don't think he maybe had something else going on?

                    "He" ran on passing bills.... "They added" - ding ding ding... If he was to hold a sword to them, you guys would be screaming dictator.

                    He lied on all issues? Really, all issues? That's a huge reach that not even Fox News would try to stretch past the people.
                    It's funny how you debate, you always think you win by changing the subject.


                    He ran on bills passing on their own merit, have they?
                    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                    think about that

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                    • TheDoc
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 13827

                      #190
                      Originally posted by Vendzilla
                      It's funny how you debate, you always think you win by changing the subject.


                      He ran on bills passing on their own merit, have they?
                      Changing which subject? The overall post topic that you changed, or one of many sub-topics being talked about, or me adding questions to your overall statement made?

                      I didn't really debate anything... Mine is more comments and questions.


                      And yes, lots of bills go through every day without anyone ie: Obama, touching them, the bill passes on it's own merit. The difference here is, Obama said he would do health care and the people wanted it, and many still do... so it's a bit more expected that this topic would get pushed through vs. passing on it's own merit.

                      Either way, it's not a giant conspiracy...
                      ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                      It's all disambiguation

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                      • CosmicTang
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 1478

                        #191
                        Originally posted by AmeliaG
                        It is not a right or a privilege. It is a combination of commodity and service. These are not things someone else should get to decide whether to grant or not. Would you ask whether warm clothes or a nice car are a right or a privilege?
                        Interesting take on it.

                        Here's the rub though: Capitalism tends to commodify everything up to and including people. So while you can say that we should not be able to grant certain commodities or services to people for free I can say that certain things should not be commodified.

                        Should clean air and water be commodified? Should health care? Should people?

                        The profit motive is a wonderful servant and is useful in that role. When it becomes the master, as it clearly has, it becomes a tyrant and counterproductive to society.
                        ICQ: 456.689.835
                        julian (at) orgasm (dot) com

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                        • The Demon
                          Confirmed User
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 7336

                          #192
                          Don't bother arguing with thedoc. He won't be bringing facts into a discussion and he will use misdirection when you call him out. And bft3k, thanks for continuously proving your stupidity.
                          Greed is Good

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                          • TheDoc
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 13827

                            #193
                            Originally posted by The Demon
                            Don't bother arguing with thedoc. He won't be bringing facts into a discussion and he will use misdirection when you call him out. And bft3k, thanks for continuously proving your stupidity.
                            Haha, yes, rather argue with a pile of spooge that thinks you're scum for being in the industry..... a laughable nobody at that.

                            Fact, my donkey cock just blew it's load in your mouth... your family's dinner is up!
                            ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                            It's all disambiguation

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                            • BFT3K
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 10764

                              #194
                              Originally posted by The Demon
                              Don't bother arguing with thedoc. He won't be bringing facts into a discussion and he will use misdirection when you call him out. And bft3k, thanks for continuously proving your stupidity.
                              You are easily the FUCKING DUMBEST person I have EVER had the misfortune of running across. I think I would have to travel to every single corner of this planet just to find someone half as stupid as you!

                              Seriously, I truly think you are a total fucking moron. I cannot look down upon you any more than I already do. You are a waste of everyone's time. You HAVE to be a loner, because if ANYONE was stuck in a room with you for more than 2 minutes you would not survive the experience.

                              In other words, I think you are a total asshole...

                              Last edited by BFT3K; 03-18-2010, 12:17 PM.

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                              • The Demon
                                Confirmed User
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 7336

                                #195
                                Is this because i called you out on being a buffoon and other people noticed? Is it because all your time on this forum has amounted to you being known as a buffon? It must be both since you're essentially repeating what I always say to you, further proving my point and making yourself appear impossibly dumber. At least thedoc has reduced his post count when people started calling him stupid. You might be even dumber because you are still typing. Thanks for making me laugh, dumbass.
                                Greed is Good

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