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Greed is Good
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If this bill does not pass, the insurance companies will be dancing in the streets. They have spent over $400,000,000 so far to prevent themselves from answering to anyone.
To think it is better to be slaves to an unchecked, healthcare-for-profit system, is somehow a better plan, then you are just too fucking stupid to bother arguing with anyway.
When your rates skyrocket, and your coverage shrinks, then you can celebrate your wonderful win! Hey, maybe you can vote Palin in next time - she's another fucking genius!Comment
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I wouldn't know. Seeing as how you're definitely the dumbest person on this forum not named TheDoc, I have to inquire about CNN and MSNBC's brainwashing tactics, seeing as how they not only brainwash you, but make you mentally retarded. Btw, there's nothing to read over, since I've read a portion of the bill while you have no clue what's going on other than "I LOVE OBAMA!!"Greed is GoodComment
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All this arguing is insane. The one guy in Congress who wants to see single-payer health care totally picked up for by the government and is vehemently anti-profit driven health care more than anyone else is Dennis Kucinich.
He thinks the bill sucks and doesn't want it. It's a giveaway to the insurance companies and it won't even take effect for 4 years. Who knows what kinds of loopholes the insurance companies will learn to exploit in that time.
Unfortunately he caved in yesterday. The people are going to lose on this one.ICQ: 456.689.835
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having health care run by greedy insurance companies or by overpaid federal bureaucrats really is nothing but picking which poison you prefer.Comment
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I'm with Dennis on this, and it's a shame that a single payer or public option bill is not on the table anymore, but as the resistance to the current bill has been fucking insane, imagine how it would be if it was more pro-government, and less free market?
He finally accepted that something is better than nothing at all. As I've already stated numerous times: the insurance companies have spent over $400,000,000 to kill this bill, so you have to believe it will provide some checks and balances for us, that are not currently there. It is basically a vote for some reform, as opposed to simply accepting the status quo.Last edited by BFT3K; 03-18-2010, 10:50 AM.Comment
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It's a right. No one should ask their kids for paying if they get sick or need help.Comment
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While tort reform would help (although there are many experts who say it would only lower overall costs by around 5%, that is still 5% less) as far as I know the bill does allow for the creation of groups so that individuals can buy policies from a group pool just as if they were part of a large corporation.
I agree fully that the legislation is flawed and has a lot of problems. I am very hesitant about it and I feel in the end it will become bloated, corrupt and cost a whole lot more than anyone is guessing. Like you I think there needs to be real reform, but this bill probably is not it.
My post was a response to your question about about the government taking over a for profit business. The point is that this business is not a free and fair market. We are forced to pay as much as 500% more (and maybe more in some cases) than other countries do for the same medicine. We are forced to pay this because the government will not allow us to go out on the free market and buy it from an overseas company that sells it cheaper. I don't think the government should take these drug companies over, but they should allow we citizens who pay for our medicine with cash instead of insurance to buy it from wherever we please and create a little competition which might then cause the price to lower here in the states.Last edited by kane; 03-18-2010, 11:01 AM.Comment
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He ran on transparency
Yet in an interview yesterday, wouldn't answer one question asked of him
He ran on passing bills on their own merits
Yet they added Student aid to the health-care bill to create savings to get it past the CBO so they could pass it on a 51% vote, very sleazy thing to do.
He lied on all his issues so far, so trusting that this health-care bill is right for us is a fairy taleCarbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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