Healthcare - A Privilege Or A Right?

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  • The Demon
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2003
    • 7336

    #31
    Originally posted by Minte
    If my neighbor didn't care enough to keep his kids from living in the street,why would I?

    Taking it a step further, I take care of my neighbor and his kids,and then his kids,kids.
    When do you draw the line?
    Good point.
    Greed is Good

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    • BFT3K
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Dec 2005
      • 10764

      #32
      Originally posted by Vendzilla
      And yes, I don't believe someone that has coasted thru high school and has a C+ average should not have the same chances of a Government funded Scholarship as someone that has busted their ass to get a 4.0 GPA like my daughter. Education past high school should be earned
      Interesting. Is that how you felt about the recent 8 years, when C student, and unfoundedly privileged, George W Bush was in charge? How did HIS healthcare plan work out for the American people? You know, when he had 8 years in the white house, 6 of which with a majority in congress?

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      • BFT3K
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Dec 2005
        • 10764

        #33
        Originally posted by Minte
        If my neighbor didn't care enough to keep his kids from living in the street,why would I?

        Taking it a step further, I take care of my neighbor and his kids,and then his kids,kids.

        When do you draw the line?
        Gee, I guess when the people on the bottom are not helped out of their situations, to the point where crime rises up to unbelievable levels, and YOU and YOUR family are the ones in eminent danger. Maybe that's where you draw the line....

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        • The Demon
          Confirmed User
          • Apr 2003
          • 7336

          #34
          Originally posted by BFT3K
          Interesting. Is that how you felt about the recent 8 years, when C student, and unfoundedly privileged, George W Bush was in charge? How did HIS healthcare plan work out for the American people? You know, when he had 8 years in the white house, 6 of which with a majority in congress?
          Same place we are now, pissed off. Except it took Bush 8 years to rack up this debt. Obama is killing it after only 1 year and his administration is making Bush look surprisingly good, which is unfortunate.
          Greed is Good

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          • TheDoc
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jul 2001
            • 13827

            #35
            Originally posted by NetHorse
            Oh I agree Doc, those rich white sons of bitches. The system is not perfect, so I totally agree, lets completely overhaul it and become Robin Hoods. Good point my friend.

            Also, while we are at, I think those rich white bastards have more than enough money to go around so lets change a few other things. How come it's not a right to live and work here regardless of immigration status? Those poor poor illegal immigrants from Latin America just want jobs and a better life for their families. That's not fair for them. I say we let them all come over, give them free health care and social services. Fucking whitey built this nation so they can prosper while these poor people suffer.

            And good lord, the crackheads who were born with crackhead parents in inner cities. Those poor poor fucking crackheads, life wasn't fair to them. I don't think free health care and welfare is enough for them, maybe we can buy them a house with central air and heat? It's the least those asshole rich white folks could do, I mean shouldn't it be a right, better yet, isn't it only fair they have a roof over their heads and heat in the winters?

            And FUCK, while we are it, why can't everyone have the right to the best possible college education? I heard a lot of private universities like Harvard are so massive that they manage to run the entire university off just the interest from the money they yield each year. Those mother fuckers, profiting billions. Everyone should have the right to go to a prestigious university regardless of income, it's only fair.

            Peace and love man. Love everyone and make everything fair maaaan, yeah duuude.

            /end faggot hippie sarcasm.

            We aren't talking about social care, this is a discussion of healthcare.

            You had a /SarcasmFail
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            • CDSmith
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • May 2001
              • 51460

              #36
              I suppose it all depends on what country you live in. If the health care system is set up correctly and everyone pays something into it then it's a right to access it. If it's set up so only those who can afford it get the quality care then it's a privilege.
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              • Vendzilla
                Biker Gnome
                • Mar 2004
                • 23200

                #37
                Originally posted by BFT3K
                Interesting. Is that how you felt about the recent 8 years, when C student, and unfoundedly privileged, George W Bush was in charge? How did HIS healthcare plan work out for the American people? You know, when he had 8 years in the white house, 6 of which with a majority in congress?
                He didn't rely on government help for his education, I'm sure his family paid for it.
                So for him it was a privilage.

                But nice attempt to redirect the conversation on your part
                Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                think about that

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                • Rangermoore
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 1541

                  #38
                  Originally posted by baddog
                  ummm . . . hell no. I am sorry, but I do not feel any responsibility for other people's families. I took care of mine.
                  Right on Baddog, I have never had ANY issues getting the health care I need when I need it, and I am not rich.

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                  • BFT3K
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 10764

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Vendzilla
                    He didn't rely on government help for his education, I'm sure his family paid for it.
                    So for him it was a privilage.

                    But nice attempt to redirect the conversation on your part
                    Not redirecting at all - just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy on the right. Now that the left is using some of the same methods that were previously used by the right, the world is coming to an end.

                    Only difference is the right used their power to rage an unnecessary war, and give tax breaks to the rich, and extra powers to the big corps, while the left is trying to insure uninsured Americans, and reign in the banks and corps that have been allowed to go crazy with power for the last 8 years.

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                    • _Richard_
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 30991

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Minte
                      If my neighbor didn't care enough to keep his kids from living in the street,why would I?

                      Taking it a step further, I take care of my neighbor and his kids,and then his kids,kids.
                      When do you draw the line?
                      i see your point

                      if ones view is only limited to responsibility and ownership, it would absolutely not be acceptable for that sort of situation.

                      I was referring to kids actually playing on the street btw.

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                      • The Demon
                        Confirmed User
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 7336

                        #41
                        Originally posted by BFT3K
                        Not redirecting at all - just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy on the right. Now that the left is using some of the same methods that were previously used by the right, the world is coming to an end.

                        Only difference is the right used their power to rage an unnecessary war, and give tax breaks to the rich, and extra powers to the big corps, while the left is trying to insure uninsured Americans, and reign in the banks and corps that have been allowed to go crazy with power for the last 8 years.
                        How delusional and absolutely idiotic you are. And you have the temerity to criticize the right about following their party blindly and getting their facts from a biased source. I love the hypocrisy. What has the left done for us? Oh right, astronomical deficit spending and the destruction of the economy. Thanks for playing!
                        Greed is Good

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                        • GrouchyAdmin
                          Now choke yourself!
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 12085

                          #42
                          It should be a right, to certain degrees.

                          If you're got diabetes and are losing a leg because you're morbidly obese and lazy: that's your problem.

                          If you're poor as hell and sick - guess what - the hospitals already give you care and write it off by gouging us already.

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                          • Minte
                            Babemeister
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 7081

                            #43
                            Originally posted by BFT3K
                            Gee, I guess when the people on the bottom are not helped out of their situations, to the point where crime rises up to unbelievable levels, and YOU and YOUR family are the ones in eminent danger. Maybe that's where you draw the line....
                            Set aside the drama and face the facts. Social welfare is nothing new. There are generations of people that do nothing but collect from the rest of society.

                            Where I draw the line is my business. Which is exactly the point. I don't need or want the government to continue taking more from me and others who work hard for what we have only to waste it on more entitlement programs. Time has proven there is a segment of the population that has no desire to pull themselves out of the dismal lifestyle they live. They will die with their hands out expecting more.
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                            • BFT3K
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 10764

                              #44
                              Originally posted by The Demon
                              How delusional and absolutely idiotic you are. And you have the temerity to criticize the right about following their party blindly and getting their facts from a biased source. I love the hypocrisy. What has the left done for us? Oh right, astronomical deficit spending and the destruction of the economy. Thanks for playing!
                              Please refer to your own avatar, and then remind us what "biased" means.

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                              • 12clicks
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 19813

                                #45
                                you have the right to go out and pay for the best healthcare you can afford
                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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