My level of intelligence may be in question...but I consider myself to be a secularist in that I think public education and other matters of civil policy should be conducted without the introduction of a religious element. There are a multitude of churches for those that care to learn about religion.

I am also an agnostic in that I think that all claims to knowledge of God/Supreme Being/Creator is uncertain at best.

Governor Perry said they should secede. What do we need to do to get it done?

I've spent some time in Texas and felt like I was in a time warp as soon as I left a major city.

The governor down there is a joke. The first example that came to mind ... he acts like he is against stimulus spending and then used federal stimulus money to rebuild his house.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...siontexas.html

If Texas were ever allowed to secede from the Union it could be economically devastating to the rest of the Union.

You are talking about different versions of ONE bible.

You're an idiot!

So you ADMIT that you don't belong here. So why ARE you here anyway? To troll? To download free porn, in which case that makes you a hypocrite. Make believe Jesus is not going to be happy with you.

I frankly couldn't care LESS what you think, idiot! Go thump your stupid religion somewhere else.

You are the one who believes in burning bushes and talking snakes. You're the idiot. Not us. I can't believe the mods let attention whores like you troll with impunity.

You have never answered a single challenge to your stupid fucking religion. All you do is troll. There is zero evidence for your god, and yet you blindly believe. That is what a fucking retard does.

I doubt it. I'm not going to bother looking into it at this time of the morning, but I suspect it would save us money. Most red states cost more then they bring in.

yeah, I hear Austin is pretty cool too. I also heard that East Texas is worse than the rest of it, some serious deliverance style shit going on there, KKK is still king, all kinds of shit.

Pathfinder is right, you are wrong. The current bible was chosen at a conclave of the catholic church by a pope, there were dozens of books they could have chosen from to make the official New Testament. In fact, they could have done a better job of it. The books they chose are full of contradictions between each other.

I agree with all of this.

To make fun of unconditionally stupid people like you. Please humor us with more claims about you teaching college.

There is a massive difference between believing in God and believing in organized religion. Try to learn the difference before you go around blindly judging people.

Funny how the anti-religion, hippie socialists from California and outside the US get so worked up over Texas. Makes me wish I lived there.

Cmon, dig. Take a look at how Texas and California are currently doing economically before making a statement like that.

I heard Texas is a great place to live! :) Though also heard if you are a broke ass jobless idiot with a meth habit they don't support you as nicely as in California.

did they also put "creatonism" in the books? wouldn't surprise me

Those "right wing bible thumpers" aren't the problem, the real problem is government interference in our daily lives. Gotta focus on the real problem, not the symptoms... :2 cents:

Goes to show you what a fucking idiot you are

I said right in the post I'm in California, but because you have a dislike for what I think, you put me in a different political party than I am, different state than I live

California has had a history of people trying to get california to split in three different states.

I have to wonder if you have ever even been to Texas, or are you just calling them dirtbags because they have different beliefs than you. That is a narrow minded veiw of people, I feel sorry for you!

The last 3-4 posts have been priceless. I respect you guys for having actual common sense.

You're dealing with a moron and a social outcast.

Well, they're right about the constitutional republic aspect..

but they're very wrong about the Judeo-Christian influences. And quite a few other things.

No, it wouldn't, at all.

I spent the last few minutes trying to find the chart I once saw again in Google and turned up empty-handed. I was surprised at how large of a % Texas needed back for services of the money that they put into Treasury. Texas was one of the worst offenders. The NE states took back the smallest % of dollars they contributed.

Would it sting? Of course! Would it be "economically devastating" as you say? No.

Depending on social security/medicare liabilities, it could even possibly work out to be a good thing if the state seceded.

I take that back ... there are far worse offenders ... but for every dollar that Texas puts into Treasury, they spend 94 cents of it on themselves.

So, the statement about not being "economically devastating" stands.

The comment about being one of the worst, was incorrect. The top three are New Mexico, Mississippi and Alaska (and some wanted Palin as VP...)

http://www.taxfoundation.org/researc...state-20071009

(obviously, I found what I was previously looking for)

The Demon, get your facts straight. By Texas' own admission, the education system there pretty much sucks:

http://www.window.state.tx.us/comptr...and/wws0512ed/

only retards believe the world is truly black and white..:1orglaugh

That would be for the people of texas and then the US supreme court to decide.

It hardly involves ottawa.

In any case, black/white rhetorical challenges are a common tool in debate, useful in getting the other to state their actual position, instead of using weaker tactics like ad hominem.

the demon then stated his position and "picked a side". the tactic worked exactly as it was supposed to.

your comment is not relevant, incorrectly models the process, and even worse is more pointless ad hominem.

you fight like a pussy.

It's not black and white but I did pick a side. I'm pro Jefferson and pro separation of church and state.

California gets fucked because they don't get back nearly what they pay in to the federal government. They could survive on their own, but are instead stuck supporting for all the welfare states.

And they only hurt their own kids by teaching them bullshit. They might think it's cute and all to mix their ideologies into history and other classes, but it just makes the kids less prepared for the real world.