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weekly 03-14-2010 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyHoe (Post 16942023)
As much as I might not see eye to eye on what he does, I don't want to see any producer go down cause of a lying model. This could happen to any of us in any state or province. So all the best, and hopefully the truth will prevail. One thing I did notice in the xbiz article . When they listed sites he runs they left out crackwhoreconfessions. If this was intentional smart move. ;)

It isn't a lying model....its whoever wrote to the authorities and posted all that inflammatory stuff on web boards that will bring him down if that is what happens. I think it has gone way beyond the model issue at this point.

Phoenix 03-14-2010 05:31 PM

the lying model is what matters...he took it down as soon as he knew...and made every effort to get everyone else to take it down...i think a judge will look at that favourably

keep your chin up D

pocketkangaroo 03-14-2010 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 16939596)
Thats exactly what should not happen. ALl the GFY idiots here fail to realize this. This could happen to ANYONE of us in this industry.

It could happen to anyone who shoots a minor you mean.

And are you telling people that you can't be sure that all your content is legal? That there could be minors in there because it could happen to anyone? I doubt that. I'm sure you are extremely careful with all that.

stickyfingerz 03-14-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 16946161)
It could happen to anyone who shoots a minor you mean.

Could happen to anyone that deals with a girl that could possibly use a fake id. :2 cents:

Im now being threatened by this person from New Port Richey that I am the next target of his vengeance. Smart to threaten the person that knows who you really are. :thumbsup

pocketkangaroo 03-14-2010 05:50 PM

And for those of you who are taking him at his word, he's admitted to the crime in it. A fake ID is not a legal excuse under the law. Ask any bar owner and/or liquor store owner.

I'll stand behind anyone on obscenity issues, even Max. But this is shooting a minor, not obscenity. Not the kind of person I choose to get behind. It is his responsibility to know this girls age.

pocketkangaroo 03-14-2010 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16946173)
Could happen to anyone that deals with a girl that could possibly use a fake id. :2 cents:

Fake ID is not a defense of the law. And I don't think a lot of content holders want to admit that their content could have minors in it because they can be easily fooled by a fake ID.

Ladyboy King 03-14-2010 05:51 PM

If he is guilty, he's a fool for returning.

stickyfingerz 03-14-2010 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 16946177)
Fake ID is not a defense of the law. And I don't think a lot of content holders want to admit that their content could have minors in it because they can be easily fooled by a fake ID.

What if its a real id then? Where the person in the id looks very much the same as the person presenting it? And even brings 2 id's say state and college id or something to that effect. Even social security cards etc. Yet its not that person, but outside of fingerprints you'd have no way to say for sure its that person. You can't just say someone is easily fooled by a "fake" id. I think if the shooter did their due dilligence and the id still appeared to be theirs then its fraud on the part of the model. Also I wonder if the fact that she should of signed a model release which is a binding contract also should be looked at also as further fraud since if she signed the name of someone that wasn't herself she is further committing fraud by impersonating someone while signing a legal contract.

pocketkangaroo 03-14-2010 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16946188)
What if its a real id then? Where the person in the id looks very much the same as the person presenting it? And even brings 2 id's say state and college id or something to that effect. Even social security cards etc. Yet its not that person, but outside of fingerprints you'd have no way to say for sure its that person. You can't just say someone is easily fooled by a "fake" id. I think if the shooter did their due dilligence and the id still appeared to be theirs then its fraud on the part of the model. Also I wonder if the fact that she should of signed a model release which is a binding contract also should be looked at also as further fraud since if she signed the name of someone that wasn't herself she is further committing fraud by impersonating someone while signing a legal contract.

That's up to a court to decide. I'm just pointing out that a fake ID is not grounds for dismissal. In fact, in most busts of liquor stores, the cops give the decoy someone else's real ID. The law is 18 years of age and it is up to the business to make sure the person is of that age.

As for the contract, if she was not 18 years old, it's not likely that it would actually be a legal contract. There are few exceptions when it comes to contracts with minors, and those don't include shooting a porn video (mostly relate to school loans).

enozgirl 03-14-2010 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16942306)
Rather than wishing D good luck, I'll just say that I hope the absolute truth comes to light, no matter what it may be. I would only wish luck to someone I know is innocent.

Well said. :2 cents::2 cents:

Supz 03-14-2010 07:29 PM

51 Jail birds?

whore monger 03-14-2010 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 16946150)
the lying model is what matters...he took it down as soon as he knew...and made every effort to get everyone else to take it down...i think a judge will look at that favourably

keep your chin up D

are you kidding they will bring up the arrest for the guy blowing him in the theater, they will bring up d's arrest for jacking off with shirley the 70 old dude in the theater. the girl will be the poor single mother trying to feed her kids that he corrupted. the jury isn't gonna like d one iota...

xxweekxx 03-14-2010 10:59 PM

the jury will hang him.. he has like 1% chance of winning this case in tampa..

remember the prosecutor(s) can make him look like a perverted evil porn slinger..

theking 03-14-2010 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 16946662)
the jury will hang him.. he has like 1% chance of winning this case in tampa..

remember the prosecutor(s) can make him look like a perverted evil porn slinger..

In other words the prosecutor can use the truth?

Abracadabra_nl 03-15-2010 02:00 AM

Good Luck Dirty D! Hopefully we'll meet again in September in Amsterdam at Webmasters Access.

Kees

TurboAngel 03-15-2010 06:52 AM

I don't know how this is going to all turn out but when I was in high school my g/f stole her older sisters info ( SS card, etc) and had a real ID made with her pic on it. I know now it's not as easy as that now a days but it can happen. Has anyone thought about that? Today you hear all about people stealing others identity.


I'm not on anyones side but doesn't it make you think that some how she did have a "real" fake ID?

Quagmire 03-15-2010 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16942306)
I hate how one-sided this has become.

What if he did knowingly do it? Wouldn't we want that kind of person out of our industry even if it brings undue attention? Yes, it sucks, but if HE did this to the industry then HE needs to be held accountable.

Rather than wishing D good luck, I'll just say that I hope the absolute truth comes to light, no matter what it may be. I would only wish luck to someone I know is innocent.

His past and well-documented actions do not leave him standing in the best light. He has always liked to push the envelope.

From a moral standpoint yes, but from a business standpoint as an industry we get a black eye unless he's found innocent. It sucks, but it is reality.

fl_prn_str 03-16-2010 07:17 PM

arrest warrant lifted according to hillsbrough county sheriff office.....:uhoh


but is it a "trap"??? :question

weekly 03-16-2010 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fl_prn_str (Post 16952124)
arrest warrant lifted according to hillsbrough county sheriff office.....:uhoh


but is it a "trap"??? :question

what are you talking about?

NaughtyVisions 03-16-2010 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fl_prn_str (Post 16952124)
arrest warrant lifted according to hillsbrough county sheriff office.....:uhoh


but is it a "trap"??? :question

It was lifted so he can enter the country without being arrested...under the condition that he turns himself in.

From the xbiz.com article (linked to in the op):

"His attorney was able to lift the warrant so he will not be arrested upon entry into the U.S. but will be able to turn himself in upon his return to Tampa,"

fl_prn_str 03-16-2010 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions (Post 16952142)
It was lifted so he can enter the country without being arrested...under the condition that he turns himself in.

From the xbiz.com article (linked to in the op):

"His attorney was able to lift the warrant so he will not be arrested upon entry into the U.S. but will be able to turn himself in upon his return to Tampa,"

I was referring only to that the local yokels that may have done such things.....but its it only being strictly handled by the State and not the Feds??? That was what I was alluding to indirectly.

epitome 03-16-2010 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire (Post 16947255)
From a moral standpoint yes, but from a business standpoint as an industry we get a black eye unless he's found innocent. It sucks, but it is reality.

The only black eye that will be because of that stupid fucking press conference that his lawyer is holding.

Nobody in mainstream media is paying attention to this, but the media whore Dirty D wants to make certain that they do.

The only person to blame is D himself. He his not interested in protecting the overall industry, so fuck him.

fl_prn_str 03-17-2010 05:31 AM

UPDATE: Third man arrested in filming of nude teenage girl
 
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/mar...-teenage-girl/


TAMPA - Officials have arrested a third man they say was involved in filming a nude 17-year-old girl who simulated a sex act.

Michael Allen Storm, also known as "Dirty D," was arrested Tuesday night at 5503 W. Spruce St.

Storm, 44, was arrested on two counts of use of a child in a sexual performance and two counts of promotion of a sexual performance by a child. Last month, investigators arrested Stephen Chastain, 36, and Ryan Holtz, 24, in connection with the film.

The men, who knew the girl was 17, said they would pay her $500 to videotape a simulated sex act at a Tampa home and then took her to an adult club on Lois Avenue, according to Florida Department of Law Enforcement records.

Chastain and Holtz each were charged with two counts of promotion of a sexual performance by child, the FDLE said.

Chastain and Holtz were released after posting bail set at $20,000, according to records.

Storm remains in jail on $200,000 bail

ShellyCrash 03-17-2010 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by fl_prn_str (Post 16953039)
TAMPA - Officials have arrested a third man they say was involved in filming a nude 17-year-old girl who simulated a sex act.

............

Storm remains in jail on $200,000 bail


I saw that this morning. Originally when this first went down bail was looking like it would be set at $100k. I guess that's what happens when you keep em' waiting.


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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16952555)
The only black eye that will be because of that stupid fucking press conference that his lawyer is holding.

Nobody in mainstream media is paying attention to this, but the media whore Dirty D wants to make certain that they do.

I agree. This press conference is the worst idea ever. You have to wonder if the person / people involved are thinking about what's best for Dirty D or what will get them more notoriety for themselves. Personally I can't see anything positive coming out of drawing more public attention to this situation for anyone. :helpme

directfiesta 03-17-2010 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16946665)
In other words the prosecutor can use the truth?

:winkwink:

Was thinking the same...that is rare .

Pipecrew 03-17-2010 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16953093)
I saw that this morning. Originally when this first went down bail was looking like it would be set at $100k. I guess that's what happens when you keep em' waiting.

You realize you only need to put up 10% of that and can be out right?

ShellyCrash 03-17-2010 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew (Post 16953305)
You realize you only need to put up 10% of that and can be out right?

Just noting that they doubled his bond, which I would guess would be because of D's extended Spanish stay they consider him to be a flight risk.

I wouldn't think with the number of bail bondsman in this town D would be unable to work that out, but the ins and outs of bail bonds is not my strong suit. I think the usual thing is you have to put up 10% as a non-refundable fee, but in higher $$ cases I assume the bondsman is going to want to make sure he's not drawing on a dry well if the client bolts. I perceive D has enough in personal assets that it wouldn't be a problem to secure his release, but really I have no clue. Honestly, I've never known anyone who's had a bond of more than $2k, and in that case they just put up the whole $2k.

RycEric 03-17-2010 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16953545)
but really I have no clue.

You really don't.

ShellyCrash 03-17-2010 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 16953870)
You really don't.

Thanks mystery douche :321GFY

topnotch, standup guy 03-17-2010 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ******* (Post 16942080)
But it almost certainly will not get thrown out. If you had ever lived in that area of Florida (the bible belt) you would understand why Dirty D is 99% going to have to take a plea on a charge like this. :2 cents: Plus the fact that he has retained a turd for an attorney does not help matters.

Tampa's not exactly in the bible belt. Points north, south and east, yes, but the strip club capital of the country??? No way.

Yeah, it's true Max got railroaded in Tampa, but I think that's the exception and not the rule.

If Dirty D gets fucked it'll most likely be because his lawyer sucks.

Helix 03-17-2010 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16953934)
Thanks mystery douche :321GFY

lol @ mystery douche...haha

Tjeezers 03-17-2010 11:01 AM

1 thread by his talented spoke person where we will be asked to send sales to HIGR so he can bail himself out again. Oohh no i forgot, that has been done last year already

96ukssob 03-17-2010 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 16939506)
If that girl lied about her age or offered up fake ID, then she deserves to be blacklisted forever, and every future employer needs to know what kind of person she really is.

fuck that, she should have to sit in jail and be fined thousands upon thousands of dollars. i have zero tolerance for lying whores

pornlaw 03-17-2010 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew (Post 16953305)
You realize you only need to put up 10% of that and can be out right?

10% is the fee. Dirty D needs to give a bail bondsman $20,000 in cash which he will not get back and he needs assets to secure the other $200,000 - a house with equity is usually required.

Or he can post the $200,000 himself and walk but they keep they money until after trial/plea. Not many people have cash for bail + money for lawyer.

Quagmire 03-17-2010 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16953934)
Thanks mystery douche :321GFY

http://pictures.hamzy.info/blog-phot...37422.63-0.jpg

WebCompanyInc 03-17-2010 12:26 PM

This whole thing is so crazy. I would think that D had already set something up with a bondsman here he's likely still in classifications and being processed


I have a feeling this is going to end bad for law enforcement and the DA with D coming out on top


That little bitch should be burned at the stake... I cant count the number of times models have tried to pass me fake ID ... one girl was only 14 years old and showed up in response to a craigslist post with her mothers ID saying she was 32

I know this happens and this is why I am able to give D the benefit of doubt




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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16953934)
Thanks mystery douche :321GFY

I think that RYC stands for Remove Your Content so likely someone from there I assume

Mutt 03-17-2010 12:44 PM

armchair lawyers - how can you have any opinion on this without knowing the all the facts of the case. he may be being railroaded but if that email that's been posted a bunch of times is real and he knew this girl was 17 because she told him she was in her email then he should go to jail just for being an idiot.

not paying Shoehorn his 300 dollars for the reason DirtyD gave is a little window into the arrogance of this guy - an arrogance that may have played a part in him thinking he didn't have to worry about shooting a 17 year old. how many of us as the Shoehorn thread continued on and on were saying or thinking 'Just pay him the 300 dollars, the damage you're doing to your reputation and business is a thousand times worse than admitting you were wrong even if you don't feel that way'?

WebCompanyInc 03-17-2010 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 16954378)
armchair lawyers - how can you have any opinion on this without knowing the all the facts of the case. he may be being railroaded but if that email that's been posted a bunch of times is real and he knew this girl was 17 because she told him she was in her email then he should go to jail just for being an idiot.

not paying Shoehorn his 300 dollars for the reason DirtyD gave is a little window into the arrogance of this guy - an arrogance that may have played a part in him thinking he didn't have to worry about shooting a 17 year old. how many of us as the Shoehorn thread continued on and on were saying or thinking 'Just pay him the 300 dollars, the damage you're doing to your reputation and business is a thousand times worse than admitting you were wrong even if you don't feel that way'?

without question he should have paid shoehorn the 300 even before it ever made it here to GFY


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