Moniker leaking private whois info?

[CyberHustler]

Am I the only one this is happening to?

[st0ned]

Care to elaborate? I have a ton of domains with them.

[candyflip]

This is the second thread about this.

Bari from moniker showed up to give the typical nothing is wrong response.

Obviously something IS wrong.

[CyberHustler]

Originally Posted by st0ned

Care to elaborate? I have a ton of domains with them.

Well, I paid for privacy on all my domains with them (like 12 or so) but on one of them I can view my whois info on sites like: http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jsp for some odd reason.

Still waiting on a reply from them about it. This isn't a drama thread, just wanted to know if this has happened to others or am I just an isolated case.

[candyflip]

When I said second thread. It was in the past 24-48 hours.

[pradaboy]

It has been known to happen, although I love Moniker this is an issue they have failed to fix.

[st0ned]

Wow...I was not aware of this. I have privacy on every domain I have with them (800+ domains). So obviously privacy is important to me. If they aren't in fact making them private why in the hell am I paying for privacy or better yet why in the hell am I using them as a registrar?

[candyflip]

The other thread should be right below this one now.

[Fat Panda]

This has happened to me too, sometimes the whois databases seem just not to update...

[SEO Expert]

Originally Posted by NanoBot

Am I the only one this is happening to?

This is a well known issue. Has already been discussed before.

Domains moved.

[st0ned]

I just checked about 20 of my domains with Moniker and all show the privacy. I really don't want to do a whois on ALL of them. Did you add privacy at the time of registration or at some point after?

[VGeorgie]

This happened to me when the domains automatically renewed. The privacy didn't. I had to go back in and manually re-add the privacy. (But of course by then it's too late as many whois services keep a history, down to the day.)

Needless to say I am no longer a Moniker customer, and would never go back to them.

[st0ned]

Originally Posted by VGeorgie

This happened to me when the domains automatically renewed. The privacy didn't. I had to go back in and manually re-add the privacy. (But of course by then it's too late as many whois services keep a history, down to the day.)

Needless to say I am no longer a Moniker customer, and would never go back to them.

Wow...I am going to check my recently renewed domains now.

[seeric]

if thats the case and it's true, my business goes as well. i have hundreds there.

[st0ned]

I still can't seem to find any with my whois info showing. Though if so many people are having the issue it kinda tarnishes my trust for their privacy service. I am going to keep an eye on this thread...

[CyberHustler]

Originally Posted by st0ned

I just checked about 20 of my domains with Moniker and all show the privacy. I really don't want to do a whois on ALL of them. Did you add privacy at the time of registration or at some point after?

I always get privacy at time of registration and I always make sure to manually set privacy to renew automatically with Moniker because they don't add that in with domain auto renew, it's separate. I paid for privacy, it says "PRIVACY - YES" in my moniker control panel for all domains, yet for one of those domains I can view my whois info.

[Klen]

See this thread:
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=961954

[pradaboy]

That's why the only REAL privacy option is an offshore company.

[st0ned]

Originally Posted by pradaboy

That's why the only REAL privacy option is an offshore company.

Any suggestions on how to go about setting one up? I would love to save on privacy costs anyway.

[VGeorgie]

Originally Posted by NanoBot

I always make sure to manually set privacy to renew automatically with Moniker because they don't add that in with domain auto renew,

While I *thought* I had this enabled apparently it wasn't, and I can't prove it was. With Network Solutions, GoDaddy, and the other registrars I've used, privacy is always automatically added, and you have to explicitly opt out of it for renewal. That's the only way it makes sense. It's a fairly narrow percentage who would register for an initial period with privacy, then renew without it?

Even if you re-add the privacy after it's lapsed if it was made public even for a day outfits like DomainTools will have cached the ownership info. Anyone willing to pay for their extended service can get a domain ownership history, and it will include your private information.

[VGeorgie]

Originally Posted by pradaboy

That's why the only REAL privacy option is an offshore company.

How does this work? ICANN rules apply to everyone, not just those in the US. You have to list your real info, or else cover your ownership using a privacy service or a corporate name.

I don't see where ICANN doesn't allow DBAs. That, a PO Box, and a pager number are all you probably need to do your own privacy. As I understand it, the stipulation is that the information has to be accurate. It doesn't have to pinpoint you as a specific human living at 123 Maple Street.

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by pradaboy

That's why the only REAL privacy option is an offshore company.

If it's privacy you want: yes, that'll work.
If it's privacy for seo reasons you wants: not a good idea.

[d-null]

Originally Posted by VGeorgie

How does this work? ICANN rules apply to everyone, not just those in the US. You have to list your real info, or else cover your ownership using a privacy service or a corporate name.

I don't see where ICANN doesn't allow DBAs. That, a PO Box, and a pager number are all you probably need to do your own privacy. As I understand it, the stipulation is that the information has to be accurate. It doesn't have to pinpoint you as a specific human living at 123 Maple Street.

when does ICANN ever demand I.D.? And there is no law against using an alias as long as you aren't doing it to commit crime. Why pay for privacy when all you have to do is make up an alias and use that?

[d-null]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

If it's privacy you want: yes, that'll work.
If it's privacy for seo reasons you wants: not a good idea.

if your links are all coming from Godaddy or Moniker privacy domains they might as well all be from the same whois anyways when it comes to an seo linking scheme

I think a much better bet is to use a bunch of different aliases

[Varius]

Originally Posted by seeric

if thats the case and it's true, my business goes as well. i have hundreds there.

Aside from all the tecnical glitches they often have, be careful they may see a domain of yours they like and put it up for auction without your permission as has happened to myself and three other people I know

I would just move them.

[Cyber Fucker]

I've just checked mine whois and it looks all fine..

[Farang]

Checking mine...

[VGeorgie]

Originally Posted by d-null

when does ICANN ever demand I.D.? And there is no law against using an alias as long as you aren't doing it to commit crime. Why pay for privacy when all you have to do is make up an alias and use that?

If the alias is only a false name for domain registration then that would be inaccurate information as far as ICANN is concerned. These are arbitrary rules, not laws.

If your alias is commonly used in business or personal matters than it's not inaccurate information.

I was wrong before about a pager number. ICANN requires a voice phone. I use a pay-as-you-go cell phone for these things.

ICANN supposedly requires the full name of the registering party, but companies don't often do that (Microsoft does not, for example), which is why I think it's better to appear as a company rather than a person. It's common practice to then just list yourself as "support" or "administrator." You don't have to file a fictitious business name to be a DBA, unless you want to get checks in that name, and do certain other legal things. If your DBA is filed with your city, county, or state, someone *could* track down who you are.

[Agent 488]

moniker is a joke.

[d-null]

Originally Posted by VGeorgie

If the alias is only a false name for domain registration then that would be inaccurate information as far as ICANN is concerned. These are arbitrary rules, not laws.

If your alias is commonly used in business or personal matters than it's not inaccurate information.

....

where is this ever made a difference? if I use an alias, it doesn't matter when or where I ever used that alias, how is ICANN going to prove one way or another? How can you say it's inaccurate information? If I want to make up a completely fictitious name and use it to register a domain, there is nothing they can do or say about it. If I register a domain under an alias "Joe Jefferson Blough" and have control of that domain, who are they to say that "Joe Jefferson Blough" is an alias or not?

[izzynew]

Hmmm, the other thread seems to have disappeared.
Just checked my Moniker domains and they are private.
But a reverse IP found something interesting. I paid the hosting company where these domains are hosted for a separate IP. But the IP is no longer separate since an 'admin update'.
I'm sick and tired of keeping track of registrars and hosts.
If it's not one fucking up, it's the other.

[CYF]

Originally Posted by st0ned

Any suggestions on how to go about setting one up? I would love to save on privacy costs anyway.

just a suggestion, but I use a PO Box ($80/year) which would be way cheaper than the $1600+ you're paying for privacy a year.

[HandballJim]

Originally Posted by CYF

just a suggestion, but I use a PO Box ($80/year) which would be way cheaper than the $1600+ you're paying for privacy a year.

I agree, I've had a PO Box for 20 years and use it for domains and all my personal bills. All privacy means is your slowing down someone who will find out who you are just by requesting your info from the register...and from people spamming your email. I also started an LLC so I can list my company as the registrant in the whois....with a phone number with an answering machine that I rarely answer. for contact I use my nickname and real last name...one of the most popular Italian last names.

Most people need to hide when they are doing something wrong. If you posting your domain on craigslist, facebook, youtube and other mainstream websites to push traffic to adult. you should get your domain revoked.

[pradaboy]

Originally Posted by st0ned

Any suggestions on how to go about setting one up? I would love to save on privacy costs anyway.

Contact me, info in sig.

[pradaboy]

Originally Posted by VGeorgie

How does this work? ICANN rules apply to everyone, not just those in the US. You have to list your real info, or else cover your ownership using a privacy service or a corporate name.

I don't see where ICANN doesn't allow DBAs. That, a PO Box, and a pager number are all you probably need to do your own privacy. As I understand it, the stipulation is that the information has to be accurate. It doesn't have to pinpoint you as a specific human living at 123 Maple Street.

It is privacy if the company name you are using is not publicly tied to your own name.

[Domain Diva]

Although many options exsist from LLC to post office boxes etc many are either time consuming or costly and have weak links enabling your infomation to be obtained.

Depending on the level of security required if anyone would like details of the service I recommend to my clients that offers a 100 percent guaranteed ring of steel around your identity from a swiss based company specialising in this ( you know what the swiss are like !) let me know at [email protected]

Prices are very reasonable ranging from 7.95 per domain down to $1.99 for big portfolio holders........ and of course you still keep your domains at your regular registrar etc



Ps..They are also starting up an affiliate program shortly if anyone wants info let me know.

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by CyberClaire

Although many options exsist from LLC to post office boxes etc many are either time consuming or costly and have weak links enabling your infomation to be obtained.

Depending on the level of security required if anyone would like details of the service I recommend to my clients that offers a 100 percent guaranteed ring of steel around your identity from a swiss based company specialising in this ( you know what the swiss are like !) let me know at [email protected]

Prices are very reasonable ranging from 7.95 per domain down to $1.99 for big portfolio holders........ and of course you still keep your domains at your regular registrar etc



Ps..They are also starting up an affiliate program shortly if anyone wants info let me know.

I'd be interested in hearing more about this.

The idea that anything on a registrar might not autorenew, when autorenew is checked, is worrisome. Has this really happened a lot with Moniker?

[Domain Diva]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

I'd be interested in hearing more about this.

Just email me anytime Amelia, then I have a contact point.

Thanks

[TheDA]

Originally Posted by d-null

when does ICANN ever demand I.D.? And there is no law against using an alias as long as you aren't doing it to commit crime. Why pay for privacy when all you have to do is make up an alias and use that?

I tend to agree with VGeorgie on this.

I am of the understanding that the registrant name should be canonical (I think that is the term they tend to use) which means no aliases.

If it's in their terms and you did somehow get found out, I think they would have grounds for suspension or whatever.

[aniloscash]

I read a names cheap thread about them shutting down a domain with dmca
2) godaddy on going issues with adult
3) moniker leaking whois

so who is left? I personally have had 0 problems with all 3 of these guys.

[TheDA]

Originally Posted by aniloscash

I read a names cheap thread about them shutting down a domain with dmca
2) godaddy on going issues with adult
3) moniker leaking whois

so who is left? I personally have had 0 problems with all 3 of these guys.

A recent thread about namecheap? Got a link?

[Domain Diva]

Originally Posted by aniloscash

I read a names cheap thread about them shutting down a domain with dmca
2) godaddy on going issues with adult
3) moniker leaking whois

so who is left? I personally have had 0 problems with all 3 of these guys.

1...No idea I havent read the thread.

2..I deal with Godaddy more than any other registrar and I can tell you the opposite has occured...to be more competitive Godaddy actually relaxed some of its adult policy rules recently. (nothing major just small things )

3.It does seem that way from posts.


Regarding the whois issue ...when your infomation is protected by your registrars privacy service it still remains ONLINE just hidden in most cases.... this goes for most registrars..hence I recommend an independant offshore solution as the only true safe way to protect yourself fully....this is just one of many reasons. ( in my view)

[Serious-Partner]

I have checked some of our domains registered on moniker and everything is fine with privacy on them..

[Matt 26z]

While on the topic of privacy, use the feature only at very established registrars.

If the registrar goes under and your domains were set to privacy, the receiving registrar may not have access to your actual data. I know domains have been lost this way, but I can't recall where. Was it RegisterFly when ICANN pulled the plug?

[candyflip]

Who posts from the CyberClaire nick these days? No way it's the girl who originally posted from it...probably controlled by the guy she was working for.

[Nikki_Licks]

Going to be checking my stuff. If this is the case, we are moving everything. I don't need any problems and especially when I pat for that service

[st0ned]

Originally Posted by CYF

just a suggestion, but I use a PO Box ($80/year) which would be way cheaper than the $1600+ you're paying for privacy a year.

I have planned to do this for a while. Setup a couple in neighboring towns also to separate the whois info even further.

Originally Posted by pradaboy

Contact me, info in sig.

Thanks, hitting you up now.

[VGeorgie]

Originally Posted by d-null

where is this ever made a difference? if I use an alias, it doesn't matter when or where I ever used that alias, how is ICANN going to prove one way or another?

They don't have to prove anything. They drive all the cars and it's a one-way street. You could enter into arbitration to get your domains back, but by then what would be the point?

True, the chances of them ever discovering you're using inaccurate information is very low. Unless, maybe, you have a competitor who realizes this and tattles. Why take the chance, is what I think.

A business DBA looks far less dubious, and beyond that, I regularly see companies list their registrant name as the domain name, and a functional role (Support, Admin) and e-mail for the "full name" of the contact. That's accurate information. You can use a PO box or mail drop address. That's accurate information. For the voice phone a "spare" cell or messagebox-only phone number works. Again, accurate information.

[DateDoc]

Originally Posted by CyberClaire

Depending on the level of security required if anyone would like details of the service I recommend to my clients that offers a 100 percent guaranteed ring of steel around your identity from a swiss based company specialising in this ( you know what the swiss are like !) let me know at [email protected]

Yup, those Swiss gave the US govt all the banking info they wanted.

[fatfoo]

Privacy has to be bought to hide the whois information. Why would the whois info still appear after the privacy has been bought? I have no idea.