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03-06-2010, 08:05 PM

What do I need to know? I've got a full 1TB hard drive I need to send to my financier in Hawaii from AZ ... can I just fedex it and be okay or do I need to make an attempt at concealing what it is. Obviously I'm not going to make it obvious that there is porn on it but is this illegal?

It's a mix of b/g hardcore and solo scenes but is about 90% solo stuff, copy of all docs is on the drive as well.

I know it's done I just don't know any of the laws surrounding it.

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03-06-2010, 08:10 PM

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03-06-2010, 08:16 PM

Just do it via FedEx / UPS and not the USPS (Post Office).
OR just host it some place and have him download it?

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03-06-2010, 08:26 PM

land of the free am i right
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03-06-2010, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by moeloubani

land of the free am i right

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03-06-2010, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by BIGTYMER

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LOL thanks dick.

Originally posted by tidalwave

Just do it via FedEx / UPS and not the USPS (Post Office).
OR just host it some place and have him download it?

Problem is his internet connection blows and it would probably take him a year to download everything. I would DEFINITELY not ship it USPS. Thanks for the input on the fedex/ups route.

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03-06-2010, 09:09 PM

FedEx or UPS will be ok, but never send porn in the U.S. Mail

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03-06-2010, 09:16 PM

They do have Customs randomly checking packages at UPS/FedEx facilities but I think you'll be fine. I highly doubt they'd open the box and stick it into a computer.
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03-06-2010, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by BIGTYMER

They do have Customs randomly checking packages at UPS/FedEx facilities but I think you'll be fine. I highly doubt they'd open the box and stick it into a computer.

I don't think U. S. Customs looks at stuff going state to state

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03-06-2010, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by BIGTYMER

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03-06-2010, 11:22 PM

Originally posted by BIGTYMER

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LOL just go with Fedex or UPS, they don't usually follow federal laws haha

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03-06-2010, 11:42 PM

Don't use the US Postal System and you will be fine.
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03-07-2010, 12:02 AM

I've used USPS to ship content all over the world many times, including across state borders to many states and I've never had a single issue.

I've also used FedEx and UPS and I've never had an issue there either. It's just more expensive.

If you really want to be safe (and you're insanely paranoid), just use PGP and encrypt the entire drive.
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03-07-2010, 12:10 AM

I am super paranoid but not to that extent.

Thanks for all the feedback guys, looks like I'll be using either UPS or FedEx and packing the fuck out of it because it seems everything gets fucked up using those shipping companies.

And as an added note it's pathetic that I own a delivery company and I'm asking questions about shipping

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03-07-2010, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by DBS.US

I don't think U. S. Customs looks at stuff going state to state

Your wrong! I know for a fact there are Customs people checking packages at random at the FedEx and UPS hub. They are looking for drugs, money, etc. I'm 100% postive.
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03-07-2010, 12:15 AM

Is it illegal to ship porn anyways? if so, why?

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03-07-2010, 12:15 AM

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03-07-2010, 12:32 AM

truecrypt it 256 bit strong key...but it's possible that it will show red flag to fed
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03-07-2010, 01:40 AM

Why is it illegal to ship porn in the states via USPS, if you have the legal docs whats the problem?

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03-07-2010, 08:03 AM

It's not illegal but given the history of overzealous postal inspectors and the way the government uses the postal laws to prosecute people, it's best not to send anything remotely controversial through the mail. Better safe than sorry.
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03-07-2010, 08:09 AM

I would never send anything to Hawaii. Hand deliver it then hit the beach.

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03-07-2010, 08:10 AM

i have sent tapes and drives many times by either USPS or UPS from Germany and CZ to the US - never an issue. just that USPS sometimes takes extremely long, last time about 6 weeks. they probably jerked off to the content and copied everything at customs before they forwarded it.

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03-07-2010, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by Jon Oso

What do I need to know? I've got a full 1TB hard drive I need to send to my financier in Hawaii from AZ ... can I just fedex it and be okay or do I need to make an attempt at concealing what it is. Obviously I'm not going to make it obvious that there is porn on it but is this illegal?

It's a mix of b/g hardcore and solo scenes but is about 90% solo stuff, copy of all docs is on the drive as well.

I know it's done I just don't know any of the laws surrounding it.

Want to save yourself any headache and hassle? Go out, spend the $100 on a brand new unit, dump all the porn on it, then ship it to him in the OEM box and in the comments and value section list it as a gift. Even if they did pop the thing open in a random check, the likelihood of them actually firing up the drive to see if anything is on it are slim to none.
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03-07-2010, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by TidalWave

Just do it via FedEx / UPS and not the USPS (Post Office).
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Originally posted by DBS.US

FedEx or UPS will be ok, but never send porn in the U.S. Mail

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Don't use the US Postal System and you will be fine.

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Originally posted by xenigo

I've used USPS to ship content all over the world many times, including across state borders to many states and I've never had a single issue.

I've also used FedEx and UPS and I've never had an issue there either. It's just more expensive.

If you really want to be safe (and you're insanely paranoid), just use PGP and encrypt the entire drive.

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Why is it illegal to ship porn in the states via USPS, if you have the legal docs whats the problem?

it's perfectly legal

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It's not illegal but given the history of overzealous postal inspectors and the way the government uses the postal laws to prosecute people, it's best not to send anything remotely controversial through the mail. Better safe than sorry.

wrong.

fyi, the postal inspector has the legal right to search any *mail* delivered by any shipper, that includes fedex and ups.

there is nothing illegal with shipping legal porn via usps to someone who requests it.

it is illegal to ship unsolicited adult material via usps without including wording on the outside of the package that it is adult material.
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03-07-2010, 08:27 AM

just stuff vids to simple jpg file :D

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03-07-2010, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by dyna mo

there is nothing illegal with shipping legal porn via usps to someone who requests it.

True, but who says what is legal porn?
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03-07-2010, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by DBS.US

True, but who says what is legal porn?
Ask this guy:Paul F Little
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not sure what that has to do with this, the op already said it's solo girl stuff and generic hc.

however, that case is an example of the postal inspectors *inspecting* mail from non-usps shippers and prosecuting.
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03-07-2010, 10:52 AM

yes use truecrypt and you are ok.
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03-07-2010, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by xenigo

I've used USPS to ship content all over the world many times, including across state borders to many states and I've never had a single issue.

Neither did Max hardcore....Until one day.....

If you ship porn through USPS, you are a retard.

Next day or 2nd day UPS is all I ever use. Fuck FedEx.

Oh, and don't bother insuring the packages...They typically don't pay on the content. If they fuck your HD they will buy you a new HD but they don't give two shits about what was on it.
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03-07-2010, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by dyna mo

wrong

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it's perfectly legal

wrong.

fyi, the postal inspector has the legal right to search any *mail* delivered by any shipper, that includes fedex and ups.

there is nothing illegal with shipping legal porn via usps to someone who requests it.

it is illegal to ship unsolicited adult material via usps without including wording on the outside of the package that it is adult material.

LOL

Wow.
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03-07-2010, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by dyna mo

there is nothing illegal with shipping legal porn via usps to someone who requests it.

it is illegal to ship unsolicited adult material via usps without including wording on the outside of the package that it is adult material.

i always thought there are a few states that don't allow it at all - see Max Hardcore case

and everytime i fly over to the US i can read on the immigration papers that i am not allowed to bring explicit material. i am sure that sending it in a parcel instead does not make it better.

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03-07-2010, 01:22 PM

You might consider encrypting it.

http://truecrypt.org

Sorry didn't notice someone suggested this already...

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03-07-2010, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by MaDalton

i always thought there are a few states that don't allow it at all - see Max Hardcore case

and everytime i fly over to the US i can read on the immigration papers that i am not allowed to bring explicit material. i am sure that sending it in a parcel instead does not make it better.

there are a few dangerous zip codes that some consider risky to ship to, but that relates to the local law within those zip codes and not due to any usps law.
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03-07-2010, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by AaronM

LOL

Wow.

laugh all you want but hustler, penthouse, and many other rags are mailed via USPS so be sure and LOL @ them too eh.
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03-07-2010, 01:57 PM

I haven't gotten rid of the box so I guess I'll just rebox it and send it out that way. Again, thanks everyone.

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03-07-2010, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by dyna mo

wrong

there is nothing illegal with shipping legal porn via usps to someone who requests it.

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I dont believe that is true. There are certain zipcodes you can not mail porn to.. even if requested.

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03-07-2010, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by dyna mo

laugh all you want but hustler, penthouse, and many other rags are mailed via USPS so be sure and LOL @ them too eh.

I wasn't laughing at just one thing you said.

It's not that you are completely wrong...But you are wrong. If you don't know WTF you are talking about then perhaps you shouldn't post on the subject. All you are doing is adding to confusion.
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03-07-2010, 04:42 PM

Sad thing about the Max Hardcore case , Max didn't even send the DVDs, a distributer did.

FACT: The U.S.P.S. is the U.S. Government, The U.S. Government occasionally puts porn shippers in jail.

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03-07-2010, 04:47 PM

LOL that this question needs to be asked in America. Free speech is only as free as the government wants it to be.
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03-07-2010, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by AaronM

I wasn't laughing at just one thing you said.

It's not that you are completely wrong...But you are wrong. If you don't know WTF you are talking about then perhaps you shouldn't post on the subject. All you are doing is adding to confusion.

i'm more than comfortable with the info i provided.

the question was asked, i provided information based on years of distributing tangible adult material via USPS.

if the OP takes my advice is up to him, not you nor is it of any value for you to discredit my comments the way you have.

i'm not going to pursue this with you Matt and i won't be returning to this thread.

question asked and answered.
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03-08-2010, 01:27 AM

customs checks my shit on the regular...i think they know me by name now

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