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TheDoc 02-25-2010 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16895385)
Translation: I just got my ass handed to me because I'm too stupid to remember what I said an hour or two ago so I'm going to try to play it off and redirect the conversation in hopes that people don't think i'm a total moron who never knows what he's talking about.

Typical spew, again from you... how pathetic.

The Demon 02-25-2010 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16895627)
Typical spew, again from you... how pathetic.

Yea I think I speak for everyone when I say you're done. There's a reason you're being ignored by everyone besides for me. It's the same reason for BFT3K, although he knows when to quit while he's behind. You make making a fool out of yourself, an art.

TheDoc 02-25-2010 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16895634)
Yea I think I speak for everyone when I say you're done. There's a reason you're being ignored by everyone besides for me. It's the same reason for BFT3K, although he knows when to quit while he's behind. You make making a fool out of yourself, an art.

Or.... you're the only one that thought you needed to respond... being that I didn't really say anything that required a response, other than from trolls.

The Demon 02-25-2010 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16895640)
Or.... you're the only one that thought you needed to respond... being that I didn't really say anything that required a response, other than from trolls.

owned again

TheDoc 02-25-2010 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16895687)
owned again

Man, this is truly pathetic... at least try to add to the topic or shut up. If you really have nothing to add, stop posting.

You're like a little brat kid, you just harass anyone you don't agree with. I would highly recommend you end it.

The Demon 02-25-2010 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16895719)
Man, this is truly pathetic... at least try to add to the topic or shut up. If you really have nothing to add, stop posting.

You're like a little brat kid, you just harass anyone you don't agree with. I would highly recommend you end it.

What's the matter doc? I verbally rape you and you resort to repeating my insults back to me? That's so cute. Now do everybody a favor and stop posting, nobody here includes you in boy boy conversations anyway.

TheDoc 02-25-2010 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16895749)
What's the matter doc? I verbally rape you and you resort to repeating my insults back to me? That's so cute. Now do everybody a favor and stop posting, nobody here includes you in boy boy conversations anyway.

When I say pathetic, it's in reference to you again doing this shit. You do it all the time, to many people... all the damn time.

People want to keep on the topics at hand, at least on some topic. Nobody, wants to sit around and listen to you or me/others, spew shit, over and over, on how you owned them, won something, or some how beat them.

Nobody cares about your replies to me, other than YOU!

What we do care about is you can't stop from the ongoing-continual harassment of people on just about every political thread.


Truly, if I have to listen/watch you go after someone again, with this same repeating garbage, I think I may puke all over my keyboard.

TheSenator 02-25-2010 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16895400)
Clarify how we would keep the costs down with your idea.

In the current state of the way the current health system works, pre-existing conditions a health insurance company can refuse you.

Obama's health care reform also has a lot of hole with pre-existing conditions. The burden of the health insurance companies to comply and accept a person with a pre-condition fucks up their bottom line...money.


"Medicare for all" would solve a lot of problems and will leave holes that would need to be batched state by state. The 35% overhead the tax payers pick up currently would be reduce to 1.5%.

The math is clear even if we pick up 10 percent of the cost it would still be less than the current system.


What is your solution BTW?

The Demon 02-25-2010 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16895810)
When I say pathetic, it's in reference to you again doing this shit. You do it all the time, to many people... all the damn time.

People want to keep on the topics at hand, at least on some topic. Nobody, wants to sit around and listen to you or me/others, spew shit, over and over, on how you owned them, won something, or some how beat them.

Nobody cares about your replies to me, other than YOU!

What we do care about is you can't stop from the ongoing-continual harassment of people on just about every political thread.


Truly, if I have to listen/watch you go after someone again, with this same repeating garbage, I think I may puke all over my keyboard.

Hey you're still posting, good for you:) I think we've established that you're the dumbest person on this forum and as the dumbest person, your posts will be treated as humor.

The Demon 02-25-2010 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 16896092)
In the current state of the way the current health system works, pre-existing conditions a health insurance company can refuse you.

Obama's health care reform also has a lot of hole with pre-existing conditions. The burden of the health insurance companies to comply and accept a person with a pre-condition fucks up their bottom line...money.


"Medicare for all" would solve a lot of problems and will leave holes that would need to be batched state by state. The 35% overhead the tax payers pick up currently would be reduce to 1.5%.

The math is clear even if we pick up 10 percent of the cost it would still be less than the current system.


What is your solution BTW?

I believe the Republicans suggestion to scale it down and take it one step at a time is a better method. We can't afford muuch of anything right now, and I don't see how it's only 10% of the current system, but I'm not doing the math. The hard fact is that there can't be a legitimate restructuring of the health care system at ALL until we have stopped the astronomical deficit spending and started producing again.

TheDoc 02-25-2010 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16896527)
Hey you're still posting, good for you:) I think we've established that you're the dumbest person on this forum and as the dumbest person, your posts will be treated as humor.

Another useless comment... thanks for overly proving my point.


Be happy that people like me and others, support a socialist health care type system. Even though it would be better to rid you from the gene pool, and probably cheaper, I do support you having a chance at some mental help first. And I'm willing to do my part and pay for that help, for those that need it.

I don't mind helping my fellow Americans when they're need, I don't have to wait around and do nothing, I can pay for your help now if you like.

The Demon 02-25-2010 09:46 PM

Noboby cares Doc, keep embarrassing yourself.

BFT3K 02-25-2010 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16895634)
Yea I think I speak for everyone when I say you're done. There's a reason you're being ignored by everyone besides for me. It's the same reason for BFT3K, although he knows when to quit while he's behind. You make making a fool out of yourself, an art.

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TheDoc 02-25-2010 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16896602)
Noboby cares Doc, keep embarrassing yourself.

Exactly....

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16895810)
Nobody cares about your replies to me, other than YOU!

I do care though, millions of Americans care. It's why it's such a hot topic, we should do something now so our people can be healthy enough to rebuild our Country.

... people need help sooner than later, and I'm truly willing to pay for your help. It's not hard to see you have real mental health issues that need to be addressed. If we wait around for the Republicans to do something you could truly breakdown years before and nobody wants that. Hit me up when you're ready, my icq is below!

kane 02-25-2010 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16895057)
You said there was no such thing as a free market, I'm glad you finally amended that. I think you are misunderstanding though.

I'm curious. How free of a market do you want? Are we talking a market with zero regulation where anything goes? Or are we talking about a free market that has smart regulation? Of course, we have neither of these right now, just curious about your thought.

cykoe6 02-25-2010 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 16894177)
Tort reform is a moot point. Tort reform is about 1.5% of the problem. Tort reform is what the Republican use to distract the real issues.

The real issue here is that health insurance companies are fucking us.

I think your bot is broken. You regurgitate the taking points in such a rapid fire, bullet point style that you fail to provide even the illusion that you might be trying to make an honest point. :2 cents:

kane 02-25-2010 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16896698)
I think your bot is broken. You regurgitate the taking points in such a rapid fire, bullet point style that you fail to provide even the illusion that you might be trying to make an honest point. :2 cents:

In his defense I have read and heard from several different sources that tort reform as the republicans want it would only lower costs by around 2%.

That said the one thing it might do is speed things up. If there are fewer people getting tests that they don't need it will open those machines up for those that do need them.

Vendzilla 02-26-2010 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 16896704)
In his defense I have read and heard from several different sources that tort reform as the republicans want it would only lower costs by around 2%.

That said the one thing it might do is speed things up. If there are fewer people getting tests that they don't need it will open those machines up for those that do need them.

Exactly, and why aren't the dems even considering this?

They need to scrap the bill and work on something that both can agree on, gop and dems. The idea that the dems might bypass the GOP on this with a trick vote pisses me off. A lot of these dems will be looking for work soon, but they will still get a income from the US

TheSenator 02-26-2010 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16896528)
I believe the Republicans suggestion to scale it down and take it one step at a time is a better method. We can't afford muuch of anything right now, and I don't see how it's only 10% of the current system, but I'm not doing the math. The hard fact is that there can't be a legitimate restructuring of the health care system at ALL until we have stopped the astronomical deficit spending and started producing again.

The fact is we are in a crazy spiral in deficit. I have notice that both parties haven't even said anything about the deficit. Nonetheless, making Medicare for all would bring down the deficit(too many links to source). The transition to Medicare "for all" would require America to pull out of all wars. Stop donating money and start allocating money to states in crisis. Trim down government starting from the top all the way down to the local level. The is no need for "Homeland Security", the FBI and other agencies have always kept us safe.

NASA??? I think we can scale down on NASA. Galileo Galilei did a lot just by observing the cosmos.

I think America should enter a time of isolation. Tax the shit out of foreign products and make it lucrative for companies to open up shop in America.

There is a lot of shit that can bring down the deficit but Medicare would not add to it.

TheSenator 02-26-2010 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 16899914)
Exactly, and why aren't the dems even considering this?

They need to scrap the bill and work on something that both can agree on, gop and dems. The idea that the dems might bypass the GOP on this with a trick vote pisses me off. A lot of these dems will be looking for work soon, but they will still get a income from the US

I am not sure what side you fall on but neither party are for us. To me it is as plain as day, the big corporation buy politicians and offer them the American dream with a lucrative job.

The rest of us don't have that luxury.

Anyway, wrap your brain around this memo.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6674234/Ci...-Report-Part-1
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6674229/Ci...-Report-Part-2

This memo is for the extremely wealthy....


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