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  • Porn Mickey
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    'Girls Gone Wild' Founder Sues Over 'Tell-All' Book

    "Girls Gone Wild" founder Joe Francis is on the war path over a "tell-all" book written by one of his former camera guys ... a book that allegedly details incidents involving drugs, sex and jail.




    The dude who wrote the book is Ryan Simkin - who began shooting naked, drunk chicks for Joe back in 2002.

    In his lawsuit, Francis claims Simkin - like all of his employees - was required to sign a non-disclosure agreement, which strictly prohibited him from "writing and publishing any tell-all books about their work."

    So, according to the docs, when Francis heard that Simkin had a book on the way -- he wrote up a little something of his own ... a breach of contract lawsuit.

    Francis is also suing the publisher - it's unclear how much cash Joe is hoping to collect.
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  • trevesty
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    #2
    Isn't he in debt?
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    • LongBG
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      #3
      Originally posted by trevesty
      Isn't he in debt?
      Well if there was NDA's signed by the Camera guys, then it looks like he will soon be getting a little cash...
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      • sortie
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        #4
        Moral of the story is :

        If you help people out by giving them a job, don't assume they will ever be grateful.

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        • Barefootsies
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          • Feb 2005
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          #5
          Originally posted by LongBG
          Well if there was NDA's signed by the Camera guys, then it looks like he will soon be getting a little cash...
          True dat. In the end, sweet justice.


          Originally posted by sortie
          Moral of the story is :

          If you help people out by giving them a job, don't assume they will ever be grateful.

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          • seeandsee
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            #6
            Originally posted by sortie
            Moral of the story is :

            If you help people out by giving them a job, don't assume they will ever be grateful.

            maybe, just maybe he got fired from job?
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            • crazytrini85
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              #7
              Someone needs to kidnap and rape him again.

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              • Jason Voorhees
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                #8
                Originally posted by sortie
                Moral of the story is :

                If you help people out by giving them a job, don't assume they will ever be grateful.

                Pretty much.

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                • sortie
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                  • Mar 2007
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by seeandsee
                  maybe, just maybe he got fired from job?
                  And maybe he was fired for exhibiting the same characteristics that
                  enabled him to conceive the idea to write such a book.

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                  • SmokeyTheBear
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                    • Jun 2004
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by sortie
                    And maybe he was fired for exhibiting the same characteristics that
                    enabled him to conceive the idea to write such a book.
                    or maybe he quit because he wasn't being paid , like all the webmasters who promoted ggw and didnt get paid.
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                    • Semi-Retired-Dave
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                      • Apr 2004
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by sortie
                      Moral of the story is :

                      If you help people out by giving them a job, don't assume they will ever be grateful.

                      That's so true.
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                      • SmokeyTheBear
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by sortie
                        Moral of the story is :

                        If you help people out by giving them a job, don't assume they will ever be grateful.

                        or maybe the moral of the story is

                        "if you exploit people , they might just exploit you back"
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                        • Semi-Retired-Dave
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                          • Apr 2004
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by crazytrini85
                          Someone needs to kidnap and rape him again.
                          Maybe that was staged by his camera man.
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                          • sortie
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                            or maybe the moral of the story is

                            "if you exploit people , they might just exploit you back"
                            Give me the "lowdown" on this.

                            When/how was the camera man exploited?

                            Got proof?

                            Besides, I have been "given the shaft" a few times by former employers; but
                            they still gave me a job to begin with so I didn't run to the media with a bunch of shit.

                            I hope the cameraman doesn't make a dime on his book and he is never hired by
                            anyone else again. He's only writing the book out of greed; he has no "case" against
                            JF.

                            And "exploitation"!!!!!! That camera guy was a fully cooperating partner in any
                            "exploitation" dealing with GGW! He filmed it because it wanted to; he could have turned
                            his camera off at any time and quit.

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                            • Pics Traffic
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ultra Webmasters
                              "Girls Gone Wild" founder Joe Francis is on the war path over a "tell-all" book written by one of his former camera guys ... a book that allegedly details incidents involving drugs, sex and jail.




                              The dude who wrote the book is Ryan Simkin - who began shooting naked, drunk chicks for Joe back in 2002.

                              In his lawsuit, Francis claims Simkin - like all of his employees - was required to sign a non-disclosure agreement, which strictly prohibited him from "writing and publishing any tell-all books about their work."

                              So, according to the docs, when Francis heard that Simkin had a book on the way -- he wrote up a little something of his own ... a breach of contract lawsuit.

                              Francis is also suing the publisher - it's unclear how much cash Joe is hoping to collect.

                              breach of contract has 6 year statue of limitation. If he signed that contract in 2002 it ran out.
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                              • sortie
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Slow Roosevelt
                                breach of contract has 6 year statue of limitation. If he signed that contract in 2002 it ran out.


                                I think the statute of limitations starts when the offense is committed; not when
                                the contract was signed.

                                Lawyers; you may hate them but believe me you really fucking need one.
                                Last edited by sortie; 07-25-2010, 11:37 AM.

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                                • Rangermoore
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                                  #17
                                  Joe Francis can suck some more balls... He is used to that...

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                                  • Agent 488
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                                    #18
                                    joe is such a scumbag does anyone really not believe he treats his employees like shit?

                                    that guy is a living monument of the power of karma.

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                                    • Agent 488
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                                      #19
                                      http://stupidcelebrities.net/2010/05...e-is-pregnant/

                                      and on and on ...

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                                      • brentbacardi
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by sortie


                                        I think the statute of limitations starts when the offense is committed; not when
                                        the contract was signed.

                                        Lawyers; you may hate them but believe me you really fucking need one.
                                        Yes exactly correct! If he waits 6 years past the date of the book being published THEN the statute of limitations would set in and he would be shit outta luck. Right now he is all good to sue the shit out of him.
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                                        • stocktrader23
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                                          #21
                                          Of all the people this could happen to it is Joe.

                                          Good.


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                                          • Smokieflame
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Slow Roosevelt
                                            breach of contract has 6 year statue of limitation. If he signed that contract in 2002 it ran out.
                                            Actually it is 6 years AFTER he leaves the job, if you stay at a job for 12 years the gag order stands for that 12, and then another 6...

                                            And no Joe is not in debt, he actually has an excellent financial person. He was listed as having over 100mm in assets when he was released from jail. He is one guy who doesn't spend his money on tons of houses and dumb shit, he has like 2 houses and a jet and some cars the rest is invested and in assets.
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Smokieflame
                                              Actually it is 6 years AFTER he leaves the job, if you stay at a job for 12 years the gag order stands for that 12, and then another 6...

                                              And no Joe is not in debt, he actually has an excellent financial person. He was listed as having over 100mm in assets when he was released from jail. He is one guy who doesn't spend his money on tons of houses and dumb shit, he has like 2 houses and a jet and some cars the rest is invested and in assets.
                                              I see. I stand corrected.
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                                              • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                • Jun 2004
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by sortie
                                                Give me the "lowdown" on this.
                                                he ran a site , ripped off alot of people , including myself. I think common sense says he exploited alot of women to make money , he exploited alot of webmasters and stole their money, if i were a betting man , my money would be on he probably exploited his employees
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                                                Originally posted by sortie
                                                He's only writing the book out of greed; he has no "case" against
                                                JF.
                                                Got proof ? i would assume you would need to at least see the evidence to know if there was a case. Maybe jf broke his contract, maybe jf was greedy and didn't pay him, like he didn't pay alot of people.
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                                                • L-Pink
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Smokieflame
                                                  Actually it is 6 years AFTER he leaves the job, if you stay at a job for 12 years the gag order stands for that 12, and then another 6...
                                                  That is assuming the contract only covered when he was employed. There very well could be a much longer time specified in the contract.


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                                                  • lagcam
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                                                    #26
                                                    Well assuming they both have a copy of the SAME contract then one of them (or their lawyer) is clearly an idiot.
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                                                    • Smokieflame
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                      That is assuming the contract only covered when he was employed. There very well could be a much longer time specified in the contract.


                                                      .
                                                      Yep very true. Tiger Woods ex wife's gag order I bet is for her whole life, or atleast while Tiger is alive.
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                                                      • NikKay
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                                                        #28
                                                        Doesn't everyone already know what a douchebag Joe is? What's the point of reading a book about it?

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                                                        • datatank
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                                                          #29
                                                          Whats the book called?

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                                                          • sortie
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Smokieflame
                                                            Actually it is 6 years AFTER he leaves the job, if you stay at a job for 12 years the gag order stands for that 12, and then another 6...

                                                            And no Joe is not in debt, he actually has an excellent financial person. He was listed as having over 100mm in assets when he was released from jail. He is one guy who doesn't spend his money on tons of houses and dumb shit, he has like 2 houses and a jet and some cars the rest is invested and in assets.


                                                            http://www.thefreedictionary.com/perpetuity

                                                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_limitations

                                                            A statute of limitations is an enactment in a common law legal system that sets forth the maximum time after an event that legal proceedings based on that event may be initiated. In civil law systems, similar provisions are usually part of the civil code or criminal code and are often known collectively as "periods of prescription" or "prescriptive periods."
                                                            Statute of limitations has nothing to do with how long a contract is valid.
                                                            It has everything to do with how much time you have to file a case once the
                                                            contract is actually violated.

                                                            .

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                                                            • Agent 488
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by datatank
                                                              Whats the book called?
                                                              "douchebag of the century: the joe francis story."

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                                                              • mgtarheels
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by sortie


                                                                http://www.thefreedictionary.com/perpetuity

                                                                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_limitations



                                                                Statute of limitations has nothing to do with how long a contract is valid.
                                                                It has everything to do with how much time you have to file a case once the
                                                                contract is actually violated.

                                                                .
                                                                misread it..
                                                                Last edited by mgtarheels; 07-25-2010, 07:03 PM. Reason: oops

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                                                                • tony299
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Dontcha think the publisher would be prepared for all of this and just maybe there isn't one and Joe is trying to scare him?

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                                                                  • Adam_M
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by sortie
                                                                    Moral of the story is :

                                                                    If you help people out by giving them a job, don't assume they will ever be grateful.

                                                                    And how exactly was giving this guys a job helping him out?
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                                                                    • Alky
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      publicity stunt for the book....

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                                                                      • Paul Markham
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        The moral of this story is;

                                                                        If you're doing something wrong expect it to get out.

                                                                        Amazing how many here think it should not.



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                                                                          #37




                                                                          Must be nice to be a lawyer for Joe Francis (when he actually pays up) - talking about job security...

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                                                                          • TheDoc
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            ND is about the person sharing confidential information (ie trade secrets) about the corporation. As long as the camera man isn't giving out trade secrets, it's not a breach of contract. It's damn sure not a breach of contract simply because that idiot Joe thinks so.
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                                                                            • Grapesoda
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Ultra Webmasters
                                                                              "Girls Gone Wild" founder Joe Francis is on the war path over a "tell-all" book written by one of his former camera guys ... a book that allegedly details incidents involving drugs, sex and jail.




                                                                              The dude who wrote the book is Ryan Simkin - who began shooting naked, drunk chicks for Joe back in 2002.

                                                                              In his lawsuit, Francis claims Simkin - like all of his employees - was required to sign a non-disclosure agreement, which strictly prohibited him from "writing and publishing any tell-all books about their work."

                                                                              So, according to the docs, when Francis heard that Simkin had a book on the way -- he wrote up a little something of his own ... a breach of contract lawsuit.

                                                                              Francis is also suing the publisher - it's unclear how much cash Joe is hoping to collect.
                                                                              hopefully enough to cover his tax bills and buy a few beers and some pussy

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                                                                              • Grapesoda
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Smokieflame
                                                                                Actually it is 6 years AFTER he leaves the job, if you stay at a job for 12 years the gag order stands for that 12, and then another 6...

                                                                                And no Joe is not in debt, he actually has an excellent financial person. He was listed as having over 100mm in assets when he was released from jail. He is one guy who doesn't spend his money on tons of houses and dumb shit, he has like 2 houses and a jet and some cars the rest is invested and in assets.
                                                                                drugs though

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                                                                                • Grapesoda
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                  The moral of this story is;

                                                                                  If you're doing something wrong expect it to get out.

                                                                                  Amazing how many here think it should not.
                                                                                  here's what a lawyer told me: any deal you do be prepared to see the details on a billboard along sunset blvd, if you are not comfortable with that, don't do the deal. this has served me well in my business relationships.

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                                                                                  • Emma
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    does anyone still promoting girlsgonewildcash.com ?

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                                                                                    • clicker
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      This should be interesting.

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                                                                                      • sortie
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Adam_WildCash
                                                                                        And how exactly was giving this guys a job helping him out?
                                                                                        If a person is a competent camera man in Hollywood then they can get union work
                                                                                        with a guaranteed 16 hour day and make tons of money especially since the last 4 hours
                                                                                        are paid at double over time.

                                                                                        In Hollywood you go to "The View" everyday and turn your camera on for 4 hours and
                                                                                        then go home. But you still get paid for 16 hours because it's guaranteed in the
                                                                                        union contract.

                                                                                        In 1990 I saw a union contract for a "cable puller"; they walk behind the camera
                                                                                        guy and keep his camera cable from dragging or snagging something.

                                                                                        Here's the breakdown of the lowest paid TV crew member in the union in 1990 :

                                                                                        * 16 hour pay day GUARANTEED! (even if he actually only works 5 minutes)
                                                                                        * 8 hours @ $35 = $280
                                                                                        * 4 hours @ $52.50 = $210
                                                                                        * 4 hours @ $70 = $280
                                                                                        * Total = $770 a day guaranteed
                                                                                        * After 16 hours = "Golden Time" = One full days pay for each hour!!!!!!!!

                                                                                        And remember, that's the cable pullers contract, he's not even the camera man.
                                                                                        And this is what they got paid 20 years ago!


                                                                                        So if a camera man "chooses" to follow around Joe Francis instead of union work then
                                                                                        that motherfucker needed some help.

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                                                                                        • JustDaveXxx
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by sortie

                                                                                          So if a camera man "chooses" to follow around Joe Francis instead of union work then
                                                                                          that motherfucker needed some help.


                                                                                          You cant just go and apply for a job as a union camera man. Doesn't work like that.


                                                                                          You have an easier time hoping the boarder illegally from Mexico and becoming a US citizen than getting any Hollywood union job. And a camera man job??? No fucking way!!


                                                                                          Getting into any Hollywood union alone is next to impossible. You need to seriously know the right people and get a lot of work experience, working for free on non-union jobs. And even that wont guarantee you work in Hollywood, let alone Union work.


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                                                                                          • Smokieflame
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                            ND is about the person sharing confidential information (ie trade secrets) about the corporation. As long as the camera man isn't giving out trade secrets, it's not a breach of contract. It's damn sure not a breach of contract simply because that idiot Joe thinks so.
                                                                                            Actually a Non-Disclosure agreement can include alot more then just trade secrets. It all depends on how it is written up. I have my girls that work at my webcam studio sign a non-disclosure agreement and it has nothing to do with trade secrets.
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                                                                                            • alias
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              King douche.
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                                                                                              • CDSmith
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                ND is about the person sharing confidential information (ie trade secrets) about the corporation. As long as the camera man isn't giving out trade secrets, it's not a breach of contract. It's damn sure not a breach of contract simply because that idiot Joe thinks so.
                                                                                                Incorrect. Non-disclosures can include all kinds of things, designed to protect much more than just trade secrets. Some prohibit the signee from making any mention whatsoever about the company or their role or even that they were an employee at all. I've seen some even include gag orders that prohibit the signee from speaking to others in casual conversation about the company or anything they did in the course of their work there. Others are simply necessary to prevent the signee from publishing anything about "it", whatever "it" is.

                                                                                                And if the person signed it, they agreed to it, and are legally bound to adhere to it for the life of the agreement. Some have a time limit included, others stipulate that they are in effect for life.

                                                                                                In other words they don't all come in one flavor. You'd have to read the actual wording of the ND in this case before stating with any certainty what it's about.
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                                                                                                • RyuLion
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                                                                                                  #49
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                                                                                                  • Tickler
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                                                                                                    And it's more than possible that Joe did something to "void" the contract considering the douchebag he is.

                                                                                                    Physically attacking a pregant female employee would make any contract between her and the company void in my books.
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