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02-06-2010, 08:13 PM

Any advice on how to speed up our download?

It seems to download o.k. if you have DSL... but, what about the "fly over" States... and what about Europe?

I doubt if a 56K modem can dowload our sites.

Is Europe hooked up with DSL?

I think we are losing lots of biz with our slow poke downloading sites.

I just read the average surfer will only hang around about 3 to 4 secs then move on.

you know our slow sites: http://www.theappletwins.com/opening.html

and http://www.thejolietwins.com/home.html

Any advice on speeding things up would be appreciated.

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we know are sites are amateur, just looking for a way to get things moving faster.
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02-06-2010, 08:37 PM

1st off your website looks good and downloaded pretty fast on my slowest computer...running a half gig ram.

If you wanted it to download even quicker just optimize those photos even more, just enough so you don't lose much clarity. You can also try to make them into .gif files.

But I would not change a thing since I feel it is fast enough, plus the quality of the phots should look high res since this is what your pushing.

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02-06-2010, 08:38 PM

Most of the EU has broadband.

I'm out.
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02-06-2010, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by HandballJim

1st off your website looks good and downloaded pretty fast on my slowest computer...running a half gig ram.

If you wanted it to download even quicker just optimize those photos even more, just enough so you don't lose much clarity. You can also try to make them into .gif files.

But I would not change a thing since I feel it is fast enough, plus the quality of the phots should look high res since this is what your pushing.

Wow, this is amazing. I ran one of those online site tester things and it said the site was too large and too slow.

I'm very pleased to know that our sites downloaded nice on your computer. I think our Apple Twin page is about 3MB. I thought on dsl, 3mb download was o.k.... but I'm worried about other parts of the world. I like the clarity of our pics and would hate to reduce them further.

I hope people in Europe and Canada/Australia can see our sites too.

Thank you so much for taking the time to check our sites and respond. Very cool of you!
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02-06-2010, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by mafia_man

Most of the EU has broadband.

Thank you that is good to know!
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02-06-2010, 10:26 PM

I am using cable for internet access...

If you want to see where your visitors are coming from http://www.google.com/analytics/home it is free and it will give you a chart and breakdown of what countries your visitors are coming from.

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02-06-2010, 10:40 PM

Most european internet users have 2400 baud connections - should be np.
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02-06-2010, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by chupachups

Most european internet users have 2400 baud connections - should be np.

Thank you! I've been stressing over this cause I know all the pro sites are so quick to see and are under 200K. Our 3MB page is freakin me out, but I guess now the technology is catching up and surfers surf faster now.
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02-06-2010, 11:30 PM

you couldn't let it go I suppose

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Most european internet users have 2400 baud connections - should be np.
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02-06-2010, 11:54 PM

Need better design for image optimization:

for example this image http://www.theappletwins.com/image3/NewTour1.jpg needs to be sliced, headers and photos should all be sliced separately, photos need to be optimized jpegs and header and other colored area should be gifs, you could cut down about 200kb just here alone.

and this image is ridiculous: http://www.theappletwins.com/image3/NewTour2.jpg same thing, slice it up, use background images in tables and lose the graphic text images replace wit text , use background images to achieve the same look, you could save another 300k or more there

all the jpegs in the scroller can be optimized and sharpened and save another 200k

basically, you need to learn to design better or hire a real one

trying not to sound like a troll but u asked for help and i speak the truth
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02-07-2010, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by BV

Need better design for image optimization:

for example this image http://www.theappletwins.com/image3/NewTour1.jpg needs to be sliced, headers and photos should all be sliced separately, photos need to be optimized jpegs and header and other colored area should be gifs, you could cut down about 200kb just here alone.

and this image is ridiculous: http://www.theappletwins.com/image3/NewTour2.jpg same thing, slice it up, use background images in tables and lose the graphic text images replace wit text , use background images to achieve the same look, you could save another 300k or more there

all the jpegs in the scroller can be optimized and sharpened and save another 200k

basically, you need to learn to design better or hire a real one

trying not to sound like a troll but u asked for help and i speak the truth

Not to mention this one which is a, whoa, 500kb big _jpeg_
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02-07-2010, 03:13 AM

Originally posted by HandballJim

I am using cable for internet access...

If you want to see where your visitors are coming from http://www.google.com/analytics/home it is free and it will give you a chart and breakdown of what countries your visitors are coming from.

Thanks, I will check this out. I'm worried people are clicking, but not staying cause of the long download.
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02-07-2010, 03:14 AM

Originally posted by BV

Need better design for image optimization:

for example this image http://www.theappletwins.com/image3/NewTour1.jpg needs to be sliced, headers and photos should all be sliced separately, photos need to be optimized jpegs and header and other colored area should be gifs, you could cut down about 200kb just here alone.

and this image is ridiculous: http://www.theappletwins.com/image3/NewTour2.jpg same thing, slice it up, use background images in tables and lose the graphic text images replace wit text , use background images to achieve the same look, you could save another 300k or more there

all the jpegs in the scroller can be optimized and sharpened and save another 200k

basically, you need to learn to design better or hire a real one

trying not to sound like a troll but u asked for help and i speak the truth

Thanks, this is good stuff. You are not trolling at all.
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02-07-2010, 03:17 AM

I just have to figure out how to slice, does photoshop do that? I'll google it.
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02-07-2010, 03:17 AM

Originally posted by BV

Need better design for image optimization:

for example this image http://www.theappletwins.com/image3/NewTour1.jpg needs to be sliced, headers and photos should all be sliced separately, photos need to be optimized jpegs and header and other colored area should be gifs, you could cut down about 200kb just here alone.

and this image is ridiculous: http://www.theappletwins.com/image3/NewTour2.jpg same thing, slice it up, use background images in tables and lose the graphic text images replace wit text , use background images to achieve the same look, you could save another 300k or more there

all the jpegs in the scroller can be optimized and sharpened and save another 200k

basically, you need to learn to design better or hire a real one

trying not to sound like a troll but u asked for help and i speak the truth

That is the correct answer.

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02-07-2010, 03:37 AM

Weren't you already told about all this at the beginning?

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02-07-2010, 03:57 AM

I think this was mentioned to you before, but glad you are looking into it now at least.
Your site loads to slow period, and it will cost you sales.
No matter if the dial up surfers are fading there are still tons of them and if you can't get your site dowloaded onto their computer fast enough sales are going out the window.
That said some image optimization in PS should be good enough to get things in the ball park.
Glad your taking care of this issue finally it should help a lot.

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02-07-2010, 03:57 AM

Originally posted by chupachups

Most european internet users have 2400 baud connections - should be np.

Actual most of us europeans are surfing the internet via floppy disks send via the postal mail system between big goverment computers, which we can access by filling out forms and waiting in line.

Ex. I have been waiting since 5:30 this morning for 5 minutes of surfing time on the big goverment computers, and when I´m done my surfing will be saved on a floppy disk which is send via the postal system* to the central uploading agency.

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02-07-2010, 05:18 AM

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02-07-2010, 05:49 AM

Originally posted by TheDA

Weren't you already told about all this at the beginning?

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02-07-2010, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by Bossman

Actual most of us europeans are surfing the internet via floppy disks send via the postal mail system between big goverment computers, which we can access by filling out forms and waiting in line.

Ex. I have been waiting since 5:30 this morning for 5 minutes of surfing time on the big goverment computers, and when I´m done my surfing will be saved on a floppy disk which is send via the postal system* to the central uploading agency.

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02-07-2010, 02:21 PM

3mbs for a page. wow, that's way too huge. A fast connection can handle this very quickly.. but in truth a page should load in 3 seconds or less

As already mentioned several times, optimize photos, slice bigger images and optimize those. Yes photoshop can slice and optimize all of this for you.
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02-10-2010, 02:43 AM

Originally posted by JimmiDean

I think this was mentioned to you before, but glad you are looking into it now at least.
Your site loads to slow period, and it will cost you sales.
No matter if the dial up surfers are fading there are still tons of them and if you can't get your site dowloaded onto their computer fast enough sales are going out the window.
That said some image optimization in PS should be good enough to get things in the ball park.
Glad your taking care of this issue finally it should help a lot.

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3mbs for a page. wow, that's way too huge. A fast connection can handle this very quickly.. but in truth a page should load in 3 seconds or less

As already mentioned several times, optimize photos, slice bigger images and optimize those. Yes photoshop can slice and optimize all of this for you.

Thanks, looked into slicing and optimizing images.... turns out that some of the larger images were saved at "10" instead of "8"... we reduced all of those images and save about 1/3.
Problem is the pages are just too long and have too many hi res pics on it. All the little thumbs we have to lower, that will take time but will save more download time.
Converting smaller images any lower or to gif's just didn't look right, so we will focus on making smaller pages.

Thanks for the tips. We'll keep workin on it. At least they are 1/3 smaller now, they pop a little quicker, but over all still slow for the modem users.
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02-10-2010, 02:46 AM

This is a long shot, but if anybody reads this from Europe or Australia....
Please let us know if our site downloads within reason.... are there enough images downloading to keep you interested in seeing all of it... or is it so slow that you just can't wait.

Thanks!

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02-10-2010, 02:54 AM

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Weren't you already told about all this at the beginning?

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02-10-2010, 03:15 AM

Originally posted by AlphaSky

This is a long shot, but if anybody reads this from Europe or Australia....
Please let us know if our site downloads within reason.... are there enough images downloading to keep you interested in seeing all of it... or is it so slow that you just can't wait.

Thanks!

http://www.theappletwins.com/opening.html
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http://www.thejolietwins.com/home.html

Your site is slow from both.
Optimise the site, buy some quality bandwidth and get on a CDN.
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02-10-2010, 03:18 AM

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02-10-2010, 03:18 AM

Originally posted by AlphaSky

Is Europe hooked up with DSL?

Seriously?

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02-10-2010, 06:03 AM

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Your site is slow from both.
Optimise the site, buy some quality bandwidth and get on a CDN.
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02-10-2010, 07:08 AM

That site is horrible on so many levels. Not trying to be a dick but that is the reality of it. I can fix all your problems and even guarantee my work, but it will not be cheap. That site should be re-built 100% - Your host is NOT the problem and making a few slices wont solve it either.

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02-10-2010, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by Bossman

Actual most of us europeans are surfing the internet via floppy disks send via the postal mail system between big goverment computers, which we can access by filling out forms and waiting in line.

Ex. I have been waiting since 5:30 this morning for 5 minutes of surfing time on the big goverment computers, and when I´m done my surfing will be saved on a floppy disk which is send via the postal system* to the central uploading agency.

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02-10-2010, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by Jack OAT

That site is horrible on so many levels. Not trying to be a dick but that is the reality of it. I can fix all your problems and even guarantee my work, but it will not be cheap. That site should be re-built 100% - Your host is NOT the problem and making a few slices wont solve it either.

Careful.. they might close your affiliate account if you keep talking like that...

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02-10-2010, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by AlphaSky

This is a long shot, but if anybody reads this from Europe or Australia....
Please let us know if our site downloads within reason.... are there enough images downloading to keep you interested in seeing all of it... or is it so slow that you just can't wait.

I'm in the UK.
A lot of people here have broadband but what is advertised as 'up to 8Mb' can quite often be a lot worse. My speed is a bit rubbish (usually about 90 KiB/s) due to being in the middle of nowhere miles from the nearest telephone exchange along copper wires.

Both sites take about 40 seconds each for the whole page to fully load. Although my download speed isn't anything to boast about if it wasn't for actually doing it as a test I wouldn't have waited that long unless your sites had been loading in a tab in the background while I was already looking at something else.

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02-10-2010, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by quantum-x

Your site is slow from both.
Optimise the site, buy some quality bandwidth and get on a CDN.
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thanks, but I doubt if we can afford that. We do have a dedicated server though.

Originally posted by ottopottomouse

I'm in the UK.
A lot of people here have broadband but what is advertised as 'up to 8Mb' can quite often be a lot worse. My speed is a bit rubbish (usually about 90 KiB/s) due to being in the middle of nowhere miles from the nearest telephone exchange along copper wires.

Both sites take about 40 seconds each for the whole page to fully load. Although my download speed isn't anything to boast about if it wasn't for actually doing it as a test I wouldn't have waited that long unless your sites had been loading in a tab in the background while I was already looking at something else.

Thanks for taking some time to test our site. We are going to change the main pages in the tours to be much smaller and load faster. what a mess.
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02-10-2010, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by AlphaSky

thanks, but I doubt if we can afford that. We do have a dedicated server though.

You'd probably be very surprised. Hit up Dimitri from ISPrime as offered - their level of service is exceptional. They'll be able to take care of any problems you may be having on the technical side.

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02-10-2010, 03:43 PM

Its not a amateur site, but technical a incest site.
Twin sisters are family.... perhaps you do not think that deep, I do, many others do.

I dont like to burn my fingers on your unstable presentation and management skills with my traffic and end up being a black sheep for promoting incest

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02-10-2010, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by quantum-x

You'd probably be very surprised. Hit up Dimitri from ISPrime as offered - their level of service is exceptional. They'll be able to take care of any problems you may be having on the technical side.

O.k. will do. Thanks.
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02-10-2010, 08:05 PM

Site loads fast for me but I'm on a 20mbps line.
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02-10-2010, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by Tjeezers

Its not a amateur site, but technical a incest site.
Twin sisters are family.... perhaps you do not think that deep, I do, many others do.

I dont like to burn my fingers on your unstable presentation and management skills with my traffic and end up being a black sheep for promoting incest

"I couldn't agree more. Twin sisters should be banned from all media. Just the implication of 2 sisters posing sexy together makes my stomach turn."

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02-10-2010, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by BigTymer

Site loads fast for me but I'm on a 20mbps line.

Thanks, we reduced all the images by about 1/3... but, it's still too large. The site opens up really nice now on a regular dsl line, but still too slow on modem speeds. We have a 10mb line, (but do sites really download at 10mbps?? ) And the site seems to pop fine.

We'll keep whipping it.
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02-10-2010, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by Tjeezers

Its not a amateur site, but technical a incest site.
Twin sisters are family.... perhaps you do not think that deep, I do, many others do.

I dont like to burn my fingers on your unstable presentation and management skills with my traffic and end up being a black sheep for promoting incest

yes because incest porn is soooo different than normal porn and you are just an angel promoting girls being gagged by giant dicks but two sisters kissing? going to hell
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02-10-2010, 11:21 PM

So true. I'm always amazed at some people saying that our sites are bad... sexy erotic posing by 2 hot twins... big deal.... while at the same time they promote these nasty hardcore porn sites of women getting fucked in the ass, then the guy sticks his dick in the girls mouth!!! tied up, pissed on, porn today is really off the hook abusive. What ever happened to the erotic art of a woman's body? Porn doesn't have to be violent to be great.

Just my opinion, please let's not start a troll war about porn.
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02-10-2010, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by AlphaSky

So true. I'm always amazed at some people saying that our sites are bad... sexy erotic posing by 2 hot twins... big deal.... while at the same time they promote these nasty hardcore porn sites of women getting fucked in the ass, then the guy sticks his dick in the girls mouth!!! tied up, pissed on, porn today is really off the hook abusive. What ever happened to the erotic art of a woman's body? Porn doesn't have to be violent to be great.

Just my opinion, please let's not start a troll war about porn.

I'm kinda jaded... not as much as some. But when I looked at your tour... I said OMFG!

I get that "bad is good" but be carefull. I little peck on the shoulder, maybe a friendly kiss on the lips, but no tounge. Be even more carefull with touching each other. Fuck porn laws at that point, we are now talking about incest laws and the site just becomes evidence. You girls are smoking hot, and if you ever need a guest photographer, stunt cock or POV Cameraman - I'm in like Flynn. I can also refer you a good lawyer if you ever need one. Contact me on ICQ to give me a pass and I'll tell you if you do. If not, good luck with the site I'm sure you'll do ALOT of sales.

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02-11-2010, 02:41 AM

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02-11-2010, 03:15 AM

Originally posted by Peter Romero

I'm kinda jaded... not as much as some. But when I looked at your tour... I said OMFG!

I get that "bad is good" but be carefull. I little peck on the shoulder, maybe a friendly kiss on the lips, but no tounge. Be even more carefull with touching each other. Fuck porn laws at that point, we are now talking about incest laws and the site just becomes evidence. You girls are smoking hot, and if you ever need a guest photographer, stunt cock or POV Cameraman - I'm in like Flynn. I can also refer you a good lawyer if you ever need one. Contact me on ICQ to give me a pass and I'll tell you if you do. If not, good luck with the site I'm sure you'll do ALOT of sales.

Thanks, but no worries, it's all an illusion. We've already had our attorney review every pic and reviewed every pictorial concept. It's a fantasy site. There is no incest, and no laws are broken.
Our girls never touch genitals, there is no exposure of any genitals, (always wearing panties) no penetration, no sex, no simulated sex, no bodily fluids, nothing at all. The girls are so pretty and the poses are hot, the rest is in the mind of the viewer. It's erotic art at it's best. The only problem we have is with a few trolls in our regular thread that like to make accusations about us. Like they've never picked up a Playboy magazine in their entire life and seen a couple of hot twins??? oh well....
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02-11-2010, 05:07 AM

Originally posted by AlphaSky

Any advice on how to speed up our download?

It seems to download o.k. if you have DSL... but, what about the "fly over" States... and what about Europe?

I doubt if a 56K modem can dowload our sites.

Is Europe hooked up with DSL?

I think we are losing lots of biz with our slow poke downloading sites.

I just read the average surfer will only hang around about 3 to 4 secs then move on.

you know our slow sites: http://www.theappletwins.com/opening.html

and http://www.thejolietwins.com/home.html

Any advice on speeding things up would be appreciated.

Leslie

Please don't troll this....

we know are sites are amateur, just looking for a way to get things moving faster.

On behalf of yourselves, well done as both sites look ok. A little amateur but very sellable.

To speed any downloads up, maybe chop your pictures, especially the header into smaller sections to create a faster download. each jpg wants to download together, which allows the whole areas to download faster.

On a controversial topic, does the idea of twins not co inside with incest? What is the difference between mummy and son, daddy and daughter, sister and brother or twin sisters kissing & inserting toys & fingers inside each other?

What rules have ccbill got over this? I was once banned by visa as I quoted a word instead of writing something like "Natalie K, to be tied up & hard fucked by several guys".... You get the jist of it...
So how does the twin thing work? They are family members and they are enjoying each other???

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02-11-2010, 05:33 AM

Originally posted by AlphaSky

Any advice on how to speed up our download?

It seems to download o.k. if you have DSL... but, what about the "fly over" States... and what about Europe?

I doubt if a 56K modem can dowload our sites.

Is Europe hooked up with DSL?

I think we are losing lots of biz with our slow poke downloading sites.

I just read the average surfer will only hang around about 3 to 4 secs then move on.

you know our slow sites: http://www.theappletwins.com/opening.html

and http://www.thejolietwins.com/home.html

Any advice on speeding things up would be appreciated.

Leslie

Please don't troll this....

we know are sites are amateur, just looking for a way to get things moving faster.

slow for me too

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#48

02-11-2010, 05:38 AM

Originally posted by ArsewithClass

On behalf of yourselves, well done as both sites look ok. A little amateur but very sellable.

To speed any downloads up, maybe chop your pictures, especially the header into smaller sections to create a faster download. each jpg wants to download together, which allows the whole areas to download faster.

On a controversial topic, does the idea of twins not co inside with incest? What is the difference between mummy and son, daddy and daughter, sister and brother or twin sisters kissing & inserting toys & fingers inside each other?

What rules have ccbill got over this? I was once banned by visa as I quoted a word instead of writing something like "Natalie K, to be tied up & hard fucked by several guys".... You get the jist of it...
So how does the twin thing work? They are family members and they are enjoying each other???

Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt eh? LOL

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#49

02-11-2010, 05:42 AM

host them in a faster machine
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02-11-2010, 07:56 AM

your babes are hot theyre worth the wait

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