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  • joker_boy
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2003
    • 539
    #1

    Whats up with toon niche?!!



    WHAT IS GOING ON WITH TOON NICHE?!!

    I've been drawing exclusive pics for different clients more than 8 years.
    Different people bought my pics during this time period.
    It was no problem finding buyers, cause I always make quality stuff.

    I always setup the best price for exclusive pics.
    My regular customers also get exclusive discounts.

    What is the reason for tough selling of toons for the last 6 months?
    Can anyone tell me?

    I still have a lot of pics for sale:
    http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=927072
    http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=949171
    http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=934321
    and my permanent topic is:
    http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=912286
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    • Topbuxom Lea
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2004
      • 1313
      #2
      Dude,

      Our Prez emailed you on the 22nd inquiring about acquiring some of your content and never heard back. Are u checking email?

      hit me up-

      -L
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        • Loki
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2004
          • 4420
          #3
          Just my 2cents but.....

          I would say your main prob is your prices.

          you would be MUCH better off ditching the exclusive model and offering the content to multiple buyers for a much cheaper price, end of the day you'll make the same money or more!

          It boils down to the buyers 'getting the most bang for their buck'

          And in the toon market that is even more true...

          When you offer 35 photo sets for $6k that's just insane, when they can buy non-exlusive content for $500 for the same amount of content.

          These days people just won't pay insane prices for content, they want it cheap or they just won't buy.

          Now is the time for hand drawn producers to take another look at their market and adjust to meet their customer's needs/wants/expectations.

          -Loki-
          MAKE MONEY WITH 3D TOONS!
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            • harvey
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2001
              • 9266
              #4
              Originally posted by vdc-Loki
              Just my 2cents but.....

              I would say your main prob is your prices.

              you would be MUCH better off ditching the exclusive model and offering the content to multiple buyers for a much cheaper price, end of the day you'll make the same money or more!

              It boils down to the buyers 'getting the most bang for their buck'

              And in the toon market that is even more true...

              When you offer 35 photo sets for $6k that's just insane, when they can buy non-exlusive content for $500 for the same amount of content.

              These days people just won't pay insane prices for content, they want it cheap or they just won't buy.

              Now is the time for hand drawn producers to take another look at their market and adjust to meet their customer's needs/wants/expectations.

              -Loki-
              +1 and all that shit.

              I see full sites with some income being sold at that price, and you're asking for $6000+ for just 35 sets. Not saying you don't deserve it, you have nice work there, but really don't see many chances of it happening. And as you may see yourself, it isn't happening at all, all you'll get is "nice stuff" comments, but I doubt those comments will feed anything other than your ego, so try to find a business model that works for you and work from there.
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                • Loki
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 4420
                  #5
                  Originally posted by harvey
                  +1 and all that shit.

                  I see full sites with some income being sold at that price, and you're asking for $6000+ for just 35 sets. Not saying you don't deserve it, you have nice work there, but really don't see many chances of it happening. And as you may see yourself, it isn't happening at all, all you'll get is "nice stuff" comments, but I doubt those comments will feed anything other than your ego, so try to find a business model that works for you and work from there.
                  It's not a question of "is it worth it or not" the toon market has changed DRAMATICALLY over the past 10 years take the 3D Toon market for example...

                  in 1998 a single image was selling for $10 to even $20 each but that was pretty much only due to the fact that the content was so rare and so the price gouging was in full effect,

                  Now 12 years later that content is much more common and there are also more artists getting into producing the content, so these days myself and most other 3D Toon producers sell packages of 30-40 sets (30 images per set) for around $500 - $800 bucks

                  The same has happend with SOME of the traditional hand drawn artists, BUT the rest of them are honestly looking at their business model wrong.

                  They see a graphics designer sell a single toon image for upwards to $250 (for a logo) so they assume that the prices they are setting are 'so much lower then those other guys'

                  They totally fail to realize that they are selling something that is NOT a logo, brand, mascot or whatever else you want to call it, THOSE are a company or site's BRAND and will always cost more then actual content.

                  -Loki-
                  MAKE MONEY WITH 3D TOONS!
                  Need hosting? LokiCa$h Uses Amerinoc and love them!
                  Skype: LokiPorn Or Email 3dloki|at|gmail.com

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                    • joker_boy
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 539
                      #6
                      Thanks guys! I realy appriciate your comments and advice.
                      I'm kind of used to setting such prices because I've been selling only exclusive content ever since I started in this business, and that was because my customers wanted exclusive stuff only and were ready to part with that much money.
                      I guess it's really time to change my business model.
                      Thanks again!

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                        • _Richard_
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 30991
                          #7
                          you have some great content

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                            • joker_boy
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 539
                              #8
                              Originally posted by _Richard_
                              you have some great content
                              Thank you.

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                                • Rover
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2006
                                  • 125
                                  #9
                                  what is your website...i'm looking to buy
                                  Rover or get bent over.


                                  www.RoversReviews.com

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                                    • Brujah
                                      Beer Money Baron
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 22157
                                      #10
                                      I've done business with joker_boy, and he always goes the extra mile to take care of his customers.

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                                        • Maqua
                                          E.M.O
                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 2031
                                          #11
                                          Nice looking stuff, excellent job
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                                            • Iron Fist
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Dec 2006
                                              • 23400
                                              #12
                                              Sorry buddy.... the martini lifestyle has to go.... get used to rye and cokes for a while
                                              i like waffles

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                                                • joker_boy
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                  • 539
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Brujah
                                                  I've done business with joker_boy, and he always goes the extra mile to take care of his customers.
                                                  Thank you, old friend!

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                                                    • joker_boy
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                      • 539
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Rover
                                                      what is your website...i'm looking to buy
                                                      My old portpolio at www.wowdesigner.com
                                                      My fresh pics (urls) are at the top of this topic.
                                                      Fill free to contact me by ICQ 6211919six
                                                      or email:
                                                      webmaster at wowdesigner.com
                                                      and eugene.wowdesigner at gmail.com

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                                                        • joker_boy
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                          • 539
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by sharphead
                                                          Sorry buddy.... the martini lifestyle has to go.... get used to rye and cokes for a while
                                                          Thank you for your encouragement, buddy!
                                                          I love your sense of humor. ;)

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                                                            • badpuma
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Apr 2009
                                                              • 245
                                                              #16
                                                              nice skills

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                                                                • joker_boy
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                  • 539
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by badpuma
                                                                  nice skills
                                                                  Thanx

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                                                                    • Cyber Fucker
                                                                      Hmm
                                                                      • Sep 2005
                                                                      • 12642
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by joker_boy


                                                                      WHAT IS GOING ON WITH TOON NICHE?!!

                                                                      I've been drawing exclusive pics for different clients more than 8 years.
                                                                      Different people bought my pics during this time period.
                                                                      It was no problem finding buyers, cause I always make quality stuff.

                                                                      I always setup the best price for exclusive pics.
                                                                      My regular customers also get exclusive discounts.

                                                                      What is the reason for tough selling of toons for the last 6 months?
                                                                      Can anyone tell me?

                                                                      I still have a lot of pics for sale:
                                                                      http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=927072
                                                                      http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=949171
                                                                      http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=934321
                                                                      and my permanent topic is:
                                                                      http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=912286

                                                                      People grown up?

                                                                      And now seriously, you've got some cute toons there! I wish you many sales!

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                                                                        • Roby
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Nov 2004
                                                                          • 8035
                                                                          #19
                                                                          nice toon !
                                                                          PicsForDesign - images for your Promo Work for Designers and Artists

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                                                                            • tombarr
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                              • 320
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Sent you an email.. nice work. Hope to hear back from you soon.

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                                                                                • joker_boy
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                  • 539
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by tombarr
                                                                                  Sent you an email.. nice work. Hope to hear back from you soon.


                                                                                  Replied, check your mailbox, please.

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                                                                                    • joker_boy
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                      • 539
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by bbwebmaster
                                                                                      People grown up?

                                                                                      And now seriously, you've got some cute toons there! I wish you many sales!
                                                                                      Thank you!

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                                                                                        • fatfoo
                                                                                          ICQ:649699063
                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                          • 27763
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Looks like cats. Dumb looking cats.
                                                                                          Send me an email: [email protected]

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                                                                                            • joker_boy
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                                              • 539
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by fatfoo
                                                                                              Looks like cats. Dumb looking cats.
                                                                                              Bravo, fellow!

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