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  • Vendzilla
    Biker Gnome
    • Mar 2004
    • 23200

    #1

    Apparently Obama doesn't want us watching TV

    I saw the video on the news and couldn't believe it, he actually said that? Turn off the TV, Stop watching the news? I guess having voters educated as to whats going on during his presidency is hurting his agenda. I got the following off Fox


    February 3, 2010 | 3:44 PM ET
    Obama Tells Dems: Turn off CNN, Turn off FoxAt today's question and answer session between President Obama and his former Democratic colleagues in the Senate, members got a bit of unexpected TV-viewing advice from the Commander in Chief: stop watching politics on TV.

    Perhaps he?d prefer they tune into WhiteHouse.gov?

    The president?s advice came in answer to a question from Sen. Mike Bennet, D-CO, who is facing a difficult re-election fight back home and wanted to know what Democrats and Republicans can do "to fix this institution so that our democracy can actually withstand the test that we're facing right now."

    "You know what I think would actually make a difference, Michael? I think if everybody here -- excuse all the members of the press who are here -- if everybody here turned off your CNN, your Fox, your blogs," Obama said, before being interrupted by Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-CA, who piped up, "And MSNBC!"

    Obama, appropriately reminded of the network with shows more friendly to liberals, continued, "Just turn off the TV -- MSNBC, blogs -- and just go talk to folks out there, instead of being in this echo chamber where the topic is constantly politics. ... It is much more difficult to get a conversation focused on how are we going to help people than a conversation about how is this going to help or hurt somebody politically."

    Democrats are worried, on the heels of the upset race in Massachusetts and in the face of increasing anger expressed by their constituents, particularly in red and purple states like Bennet's. They gathered in Washington at the Newseum for an all-day issues conference that included strategy sessions with White House senior advisor David Axelrod and Democratic strategist Paul Begala.

    And among a number of candid admissions from the President Wednesday, which evoked an applause, this: "We've got to, I think, get out of the echo chamber. That was a mistake that I think I made last year - was just not getting out of here enough. And it's helpful when you do."

    Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-NV, who is not much of a fan of political TV (he's actually a movie buff) and is, himself, perhaps the most endangered Democrat in this 2010 midterm election, apparently liked what he heard. Smiling broadly out at his Democratic Caucus, Reid joked, "Mr. President, you've told me -- suggested -- don't pay any attention to the blogs, don't listen to talk radio, don't watch cable TV. And I follow that advice pretty good."

    But Democrats aren't without TV options of which Obama would likely approve. Remember, the President revealed awhile back, he's a huge fan of ESPN and the HBO's series Entourage. Hmmm -- contact sports and, uh, well, sex ---- perhaps senators should just turn off the TV.
    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
    think about that
  • CheeseFrog
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    • Dec 2003
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    #2
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    • DaddyHalbucks
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      • Feb 2004
      • 18975

      #3
      Even some of the left is seeing the light and turning against Obama.
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      • GatorB
        The Demon & 12clicks
        • Oct 2001
        • 18208

        #4
        Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
        Even some of the left is seeing the light and turning against Obama.
        Oh please shut up jew for Hitler.

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        • shwsrvcs
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          • tony299
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            • Aug 2002
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            #6
            you are a member of congress because who he was talking to not the american people and he said msnbc all by himself noone piped it in. I was watching it while working.There is a enough the right can bash him about why do they have to make up shit.

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            • shwsrvcs
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              • Aug 2006
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              #7
              hey wait.. he told the politicians to stop watching television, not us. He just doesn't want us going to Vegas with my kid's college money.
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              • Vendzilla
                Biker Gnome
                • Mar 2004
                • 23200

                #8
                Originally posted by tony404
                you are a member of congress because who he was talking to not the american people and he said msnbc all by himself noone piped it in. I was watching it while working.There is a enough the right can bash him about why do they have to make up shit.
                Originally posted by shwsrvcs
                hey wait.. he told the politicians to stop watching television, not us. He just doesn't want us going to Vegas with my kid's college money.
                end result, he doesn't want the news of how bad he is failing to get back to the democrats?
                Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                think about that

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                • marketsmart
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                  • Dec 2004
                  • 20419

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Vendzilla
                  end result, he doesn't want the news of how bad he is failing to get back to the democrats?
                  can you let me know when you come to the conclusion that congress is so corrupt on both sides of the aisle that it doesnt matter what a democrat or republican president does..

                  congress spends all its time trying to logjam any decision that could help make things better while behind the scenes they are lining their pockets with backroom deals...

                  i wish people would wake up and see what is really going on and where the true problem lies..

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                  • Vendzilla
                    Biker Gnome
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 23200

                    #10
                    Originally posted by marketsmart
                    can you let me know when you come to the conclusion that congress is so corrupt on both sides of the aisle that it doesnt matter what a democrat or republican president does..

                    congress spends all its time trying to logjam any decision that could help make things better while behind the scenes they are lining their pockets with backroom deals...

                    i wish people would wake up and see what is really going on and where the true problem lies..
                    I'm with you, I don't like what either party is doing, the GOP is not doing anything to help, but at least they are stoping what won't work. Obama has spent a shit load of money and is increasing the size of the government by over a million employee's, how the fuck can the tax payers afford that, they can't. I didn't like what bush did either, which other than the wars, was nothing.
                    I think it's funny now that the the news for most people is coming from Fox news, that the president is feeling the heat, I just want to see if he listens and does what Clinton did and start working with the GOP, or ignores it and does what he thinks is right for the american people, increase the government, increase spending and bow to leaders of other countries.
                    By the end of the year, the GOP will probably be in charge of the house and the senate, unless dems change, which has worked for our country in the past. A balance of bullshit
                    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                    think about that

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                    • BFT3K
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                      • Dec 2005
                      • 10764

                      #11
                      Obama is a baby eating cyborg.

                      I voted for him, but he eats babies.

                      That's all I'm sayin...

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                      • Barefootsies
                        Choice is an Illusion
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 42635

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                        Apparently Obama doesn't want us watching TV
                        Should You Email Your Members?

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                        Enough Said.

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                        • Kudles
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                          • Feb 2003
                          • 5477

                          #13
                          Man what are you smoking!?

                          Telling people to turn off the TV and go out and talk to people. Sure as shit doesn't sound like he is telling us to not watch TV. Both parties need to pull their heads out of their asses, that is the truth. Spreading shit when their is no shit to spread, that is just part of the problem not the solution. Honestly, this argument is moot in the end, you already have your preconceived notions, so it isn't like I am going to change your mind.

                          This is the second time I have seen you slinging a pile of BS.
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                          • BFT3K
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                            • Dec 2005
                            • 10764

                            #14
                            Now he's gone too far!...

                            http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=951886

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                            • Vendzilla
                              Biker Gnome
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 23200

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DaHater
                              Man what are you smoking!?

                              Telling people to turn off the TV and go out and talk to people. Sure as shit doesn't sound like he is telling us to not watch TV. Both parties need to pull their heads out of their asses, that is the truth. Spreading shit when their is no shit to spread, that is just part of the problem not the solution. Honestly, this argument is moot in the end, you already have your preconceived notions, so it isn't like I am going to change your mind.

                              This is the second time I have seen you slinging a pile of BS.
                              Do you think Obama is in touch with the people?
                              Do you think Harry Reid is in touch with the people?
                              Do you think Pelosi is in touch with the people?

                              What he said was not to watch Fox, CNN or MSNBC, in other words, the news! Being informed to public opinion would hurt his agenda.
                              He said this because Fox news is the number one cable news network and they aren't allies to Obama, he has tried to censor them, but the other networks demanded that he stop that, try to keep up, I know it's hard!
                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                              think about that

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                              • kane
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                                • Aug 2001
                                • 20684

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                Do you think Obama is in touch with the people?
                                Do you think Harry Reid is in touch with the people?
                                Do you think Pelosi is in touch with the people?

                                What he said was not to watch Fox, CNN or MSNBC, in other words, the news! Being informed to public opinion would hurt his agenda.
                                He said this because Fox news is the number one cable news network and they aren't allies to Obama, he has tried to censor them, but the other networks demanded that he stop that, try to keep up, I know it's hard!
                                He was speaking to other politicians and telling them, " Just turn off the TV -- MSNBC, blogs -- and just go talk to folks out there, instead of being in this echo chamber where the topic is constantly politics. ... It is much more difficult to get a conversation focused on how are we going to help people than a conversation about how is this going to help or hurt somebody politically."

                                So telling the political leaders to stop listening to pundits and "analysts" and news anchors and telling them to go out and talk to the voters and to talk to each other about solving their problems is a bad thing?

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                                • Vendzilla
                                  Biker Gnome
                                  • Mar 2004
                                  • 23200

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by kane
                                  So telling the political leaders to stop listening to pundits and "analysts" and news anchors and telling them to go out and talk to the voters and to talk to each other about solving their problems is a bad thing?
                                  Thats a good thing, but it aint happening, it should have happened a long time ago, maybe the president should be doing this?

                                  This is a clear response to the bad press he's getting. When he tells the politicians to stop watching the news, what he really wants is for no one to pay attention to what he is doing. He has tried this before, to keep what he's doing a secret. He signed a petition to take Rush Limbaugh off the air, he tried to keep Fox news out of the loop at the whitehouse, even the other news agencies wouldn't allow that. If it where up to him, he would only allow liberal news people to report on what he was doing to put a bright sunny spin on the lack of leadership he has. He had full democratic control of the government and still couldn't get his agenda passed, this is bad leadership, really bad. And don't blame the GOP has no power, they havn't had any power for 3 years.
                                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                  think about that

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                                  • sweetcuties
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                                    • Feb 2002
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                                    #18
                                    Obama is kick ass, happy I voted for him. Hopefully gets re-elected

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                                    • Tom_PM
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                                      • Feb 2005
                                      • 16443

                                      #19
                                      You're getting nutty.

                                      "Just turn off the TV -- MSNBC, blogs -- and just go talk to folks out there, instead of being in this echo chamber where the topic is constantly politics. ... It is much more difficult to get a conversation focused on how are we going to help people than a conversation about how is this going to help or hurt somebody politically."


                                      omg, what a radical crazy leader. We'd better impeach him.

                                      In OTHER words, he's not talking about the PEOPLE, he's talking to DEMOCRATIC MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. Do you understand?
                                      43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                      • okok
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                                        • Jan 2003
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                                        #20
                                        Death panels for people who watch too much TV? You've been warned America!

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                                        • The Demon
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                                          • Apr 2003
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by GatorB
                                          Oh please shut up jew for Hitler.
                                          Boo hoo reality isn't what you want it to be, tool.
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                                          • The Demon
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                                            • Apr 2003
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by sweetcuties
                                            Obama is kick ass, happy I voted for him. Hopefully gets re-elected
                                            If there was an election today he'd lose regardless of who he goes against.
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                                            • directfiesta
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 30137

                                              #23
                                              wating for the civil war to begin ... on the news channels.

                                              Popcorn is ready !!!!
                                              I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                              But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                              • seeandsee
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                                                #24
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                                                • Vendzilla
                                                  Biker Gnome
                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                  • 23200

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by PR_Tom

                                                  In OTHER words, he's not talking about the PEOPLE, he's talking to DEMOCRATIC MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. Do you understand?
                                                  Ok, if you believe that, why isn't he telling the GOP that? He's suppose to be a bi-partisan leader, remember?

                                                  Maybe he should have told the democratic leaders to attend the tea party convention?
                                                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                  think about that

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                                                  • Vendzilla
                                                    Biker Gnome
                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                    • 23200

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                    wating for the civil war to begin ... on the news channels.

                                                    Popcorn is ready !!!!
                                                    Already happened
                                                    http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/ratings/cable-news

                                                    Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for February 2, 2010

                                                    P2+ Total Day
                                                    FNC ? 1,482,000 viewers
                                                    CNN ? 434,000 viewers
                                                    MSNBC ?376,000 viewers
                                                    CNBC ? 257,000 viewers
                                                    HLN ?307,000 viewers
                                                    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                    think about that

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                                                    • Kudles
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                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                      • 5477

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                      Do you think Obama is in touch with the people?
                                                      Do you think Harry Reid is in touch with the people?
                                                      Do you think Pelosi is in touch with the people?

                                                      What he said was not to watch Fox, CNN or MSNBC, in other words, the news! Being informed to public opinion would hurt his agenda.
                                                      He said this because Fox news is the number one cable news network and they aren't allies to Obama, he has tried to censor them, but the other networks demanded that he stop that, try to keep up, I know it's hard!
                                                      Yes it is hard to keep up when the pace is so far below me.

                                                      Thread title "OBAMA DOESN'T WANT US WATCHING TV"

                                                      Since when are any of us in the room of people he is talking to? Maybe you should try and go back to school and get some reading comprehension skills. You are playing the same game the politicians are, you have your agenda and you are spreading untruthful information based on how you choose to see what is said, not based on what is truly being said.


                                                      Ok, if you believe that, why isn't he telling the GOP that? He's suppose to be a bi-partisan leader, remember?

                                                      Maybe he should have told the democratic leaders to attend the tea party convention?
                                                      Once again please try and pull your head out of your ass. Since he was at a meeting of DEMOCRATIC leaders, he was responding to a direct question. In his time with the GOP, he answered the questions they asked of him.

                                                      Once again, try and shelf your preconceived notions and see things with some level of logic. I know it is difficult for your little brain to see outside the tunnel vision, but TRY.

                                                      Obama take away your guns yet? I thought that was happening last week?
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                                                      • Kudles
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                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                        • 5477

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                        Already happened
                                                        http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/ratings/cable-news

                                                        Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for February 2, 2010

                                                        P2+ Total Day
                                                        FNC – 1,482,000 viewers
                                                        CNN – 434,000 viewers
                                                        MSNBC –376,000 viewers
                                                        CNBC – 257,000 viewers
                                                        HLN –307,000 viewers
                                                        This just proves how easy it is to wrangle the idiots, and how much closer the movie "idiocracy" is to being a documentary about the USA.

                                                        Let us not forget that more and more of the intelligent in this nation gets their news online, and knows how to READ the paper, so they do not tune into news onto the TV, most of which is old news anyways. So many online sources have the same info hours, if not a full day before the TV news networks get it.
                                                        Last edited by Kudles; 02-04-2010, 08:24 AM.
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                                                        • Vendzilla
                                                          Biker Gnome
                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                          • 23200

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by DaHater
                                                          Yes it is hard to keep up when the pace is so far below me.

                                                          Thread title "OBAMA DOESN'T WANT US WATCHING TV"

                                                          Since when are any of us in the room of people he is talking to? Maybe you should try and go back to school and get some reading comprehension skills. You are playing the same game the politicians are, you have your agenda and you are spreading untruthful information based on how you choose to see what is said, not based on what is truly being said.
                                                          I guess that fact he was speaking with a camera in front of him eluded you?

                                                          I got that he's back pedaling because the news organizations aren't putting a sunny outlook on his agenda.

                                                          But you will argue for your champion, I don't have one
                                                          Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                          think about that

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                                                          • Vendzilla
                                                            Biker Gnome
                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                            • 23200

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by DaHater
                                                            This just proves how easy it is to wrangle the idiots, and how much closer the movie "idiocracy" is to being a documentary about the USA.

                                                            Let us not forget that more and more of the intelligent in this nation gets their news online, and knows how to READ the paper, so they do not tune into news onto the TV, most of which is old news anyways. So many online sources have the same info hours, if not a full day before the TV news networks get it.
                                                            Read the paper? damn are you behind the times!
                                                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                            think about that

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                                                            • BFT3K
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Dec 2005
                                                              • 10764

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by sweetcuties
                                                              Obama is kick ass, happy I voted for him. Hopefully gets re-elected
                                                              He WILL get re-elected because he is NOT the problem.

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                                                              • beerptrol
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                                                                #32
                                                                "I got the following off Fox"....I stopped reading right there
                                                                “If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.”
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                                                                • Vendzilla
                                                                  Biker Gnome
                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                  • 23200

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                  He WILL get re-elected because he is NOT the problem.
                                                                  He probably will, we'll get a GOP house and senate and get something done, he will ride the success to another election

                                                                  Originally posted by beerptrol
                                                                  "I got the following off Fox"....I stopped reading right there
                                                                  Getting only one point of view? I get my news from MSNBC, HL, and Fox. I like to know more than one point of view
                                                                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                  think about that

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                                                                  • Kudles
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                                                                    • 5477

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                    He probably will, we'll get a GOP house and senate and get something done, he will ride the success to another election



                                                                    Getting only one point of view? I get my news from MSNBC, HL, and Fox. I like to know more than one point of view
                                                                    Yet, sadly, you only see one.
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                                                                    • Kudles
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                      I guess that fact he was speaking with a camera in front of him eluded you?

                                                                      I got that he's back pedaling because the news organizations aren't putting a sunny outlook on his agenda.

                                                                      But you will argue for your champion, I don't have one
                                                                      Yes, he was speaking with a camera in front of him, TO a group of people, his remarks were directed not to the CAMERA, but to the GROUP of people he was speaking to. We were given the opportunity to be onlookers. Once again, try to pull your head out of your ass long enough to see the difference between being spoken to, and being able to watch what others are doing.

                                                                      I never said he was my champion. I actually disagree with a lot of the ways in which he has handled certain things, but I also don't bash him for things like this, or take things out of context. Nor do I take the things that the house or the senate tries to do and blame him for it. You are the one with a locked and loaded point of view, and you have shown that in your postings here.

                                                                      I do commend him for admitting errors, and trying to change direction. If you want to call that backpedaling, so be it.
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                                                                      • Kudles
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                                                                        • Feb 2003
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                        Read the paper? damn are you behind the times!
                                                                        I appreciate the fact that you are willing to acknowledge the fact that I am intelligent. Maybe I was off on your complete inability to read and comprehend.
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                                                                        • The Demon
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          BFT3K has a better chance of passing an IQ test than Obama getting re-elected.
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                                                                            #38
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                                                                            • Vendzilla
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                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                              • 23200

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by DaHater
                                                                              Yet, sadly, you only see one.


                                                                              I don't like Obama, that's true, my opinion, because it's different than yours, I'm less of a person in your eyes, that's being "narrow minded"

                                                                              I believe that the democrats are a cluster-fuck and can't agree enough to pass one bill when they don't need to include the GOP and have the backing of the president

                                                                              I don't believe the GOP has any good leadership and need that. But they are sticking together and working together, unlike the democrats. Sadly Palin is the front runner.

                                                                              I believe that our government officials are not in touch with what needs to be done, last time anything was done was when we had a Democrat President and a GOP lead house and senate, circa 1994

                                                                              I also believe that the last time we had a true leader was when Ronald Reagan was president

                                                                              And lastly, the best thing for the GOP is to do nothing and just say "no" to everything till the next elections, but that's not the best thing for the people

                                                                              A good leader would find out how to work with the GOP and the Democrats, Obama has not been able or doesn't want to do this and come the next elections will loose a lot of his power, this is evident with the Mass. election and the failing numbers of the democrats that are up for election. And now they are scrambling to keep their jobs more than doing their jobs!


                                                                              You opinon seems to be different and your response is to question my intelligence and to pull my head out of my ass, are book burnings next?
                                                                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                              think about that

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                                                                              • The Demon
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                                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                                • 7336

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                I don't like Obama, that's true, my opinion, because it's different than yours, I'm less of a person in your eyes, that's being "narrow minded"

                                                                                I believe that the democrats are a cluster-fuck and can't agree enough to pass one bill when they don't need to include the GOP and have the backing of the president

                                                                                I don't believe the GOP has any good leadership and need that. But they are sticking together and working together, unlike the democrats. Sadly Palin is the front runner.

                                                                                I believe that our government officials are not in touch with what needs to be done, last time anything was done was when we had a Democrat President and a GOP lead house and senate, circa 1994

                                                                                I also believe that the last time we had a true leader was when Ronald Reagan was president

                                                                                And lastly, the best thing for the GOP is to do nothing and just say "no" to everything till the next elections, but that's not the best thing for the people

                                                                                A good leader would find out how to work with the GOP and the Democrats, Obama has not been able or doesn't want to do this and come the next elections will loose a lot of his power, this is evident with the Mass. election and the failing numbers of the democrats that are up for election. And now they are scrambling to keep their jobs more than doing their jobs!


                                                                                You opinon seems to be different and your response is to question my intelligence and to pull my head out of my ass, are book burnings next?

                                                                                It's ironic how dicked up the REpublicans were during the presidential election, and how unified the Democrats were. Fast forward to a little over a year, and you a complete 180.
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                                                                                • Kudles
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                  • 5477

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                  I don't like Obama, that's true, my opinion, because it's different than yours, I'm less of a person in your eyes, that's being "narrow minded"

                                                                                  I believe that the democrats are a cluster-fuck and can't agree enough to pass one bill when they don't need to include the GOP and have the backing of the president

                                                                                  I don't believe the GOP has any good leadership and need that. But they are sticking together and working together, unlike the democrats. Sadly Palin is the front runner.

                                                                                  I believe that our government officials are not in touch with what needs to be done, last time anything was done was when we had a Democrat President and a GOP lead house and senate, circa 1994

                                                                                  I also believe that the last time we had a true leader was when Ronald Reagan was president

                                                                                  And lastly, the best thing for the GOP is to do nothing and just say "no" to everything till the next elections, but that's not the best thing for the people

                                                                                  A good leader would find out how to work with the GOP and the Democrats, Obama has not been able or doesn't want to do this and come the next elections will loose a lot of his power, this is evident with the Mass. election and the failing numbers of the democrats that are up for election. And now they are scrambling to keep their jobs more than doing their jobs!


                                                                                  You opinon seems to be different and your response is to question my intelligence and to pull my head out of my ass, are book burnings next?
                                                                                  Sadly, we actually agree on many of the points you state above. Where we do not agree is in the way you sling your rhetoric. Two points coming to mind... Stating that "Obama wants to take away our guns" and "That Obama doesn't want us watching TV."

                                                                                  These are two blatant batches of bullshit. Speak the truth as you have in the above post, and you will get much further.

                                                                                  On your other points, which I have quoted, I am with you.
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                                                                                  • pornguy
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                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                    • 62912

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by marketsmart
                                                                                    can you let me know when you come to the conclusion that congress is so corrupt on both sides of the aisle that it doesnt matter what a democrat or republican president does..

                                                                                    congress spends all its time trying to logjam any decision that could help make things better while behind the scenes they are lining their pockets with backroom deals...

                                                                                    i wish people would wake up and see what is really going on and where the true problem lies..
                                                                                    If they are called a politician they are in it for the money. No one does that just to " Help People"

                                                                                    They get paid. its simple.
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                                                                                    • Vendzilla
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                                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                                      • 23200

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by DaHater
                                                                                      Sadly, we actually agree on many of the points you state above. Where we do not agree is in the way you sling your rhetoric. Two points coming to mind... Stating that "Obama wants to take away our guns" and "That Obama doesn't want us watching TV."

                                                                                      These are two blatant batches of bullshit. Speak the truth as you have in the above post, and you will get much further.

                                                                                      On your other points, which I have quoted, I am with you.
                                                                                      "Obama wants to take away our guns"

                                                                                      Liberals don't believe in the second amendment, plain and simple, every time one takes office, new gun laws take effect, under the guise of it's going to lower gun related crime, yeah the criminals love gun control legislation. Now they are making it harder to get ammo, trying to limit ammo purchases to 50 bullets per month, I go thru 500 every time I go shooting, minimum! I raised my daughter in my house with assault weapons and rifles handed down from generations of my family, she was trained how to shoot them and it was never a problem, she got a marksmanship ribbon for the pistol in boot camp in the Navy.

                                                                                      "That Obama doesn't want us watching TV."

                                                                                      I have a hard time with the way Obama has treated Fox news, denying them access to a white house meeting for one, he doesn't like that they are not reporting his agenda in a good light. It's censorship, no other word for it. I believe that Obama was venting his frustration over the news reporting on him during the speech that he knew was being seen by everyone.
                                                                                      Being in this business, I have a hard time with any form of censorship and every time Obama brings it up, I get a chill. He's no the first president to have problems with the press, but he is the worse at handling it
                                                                                      Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                      think about that

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                                                                                      • Tom_PM
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                                                                                        • Feb 2005
                                                                                        • 16443

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                        Ok, if you believe that, why isn't he telling the GOP that? He's suppose to be a bi-partisan leader, remember?

                                                                                        Maybe he should have told the democratic leaders to attend the tea party convention?
                                                                                        What is hard to understand about this? He was speaking to the democratic members of congress and thats who he told to turn off the tv. Dont you understand that?
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                                                                                        • Vendzilla
                                                                                          Biker Gnome
                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                          • 23200

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                                                          What is hard to understand about this? He was speaking to the democratic members of congress and thats who he told to turn off the tv. Dont you understand that?
                                                                                          He had the camera on him and used it to vent his frustration over the news coverage that has hurt his agenda, if it were just for the democrats, it would have been behind closed doors like the deals he made to try and get the healthcare bill passed
                                                                                          Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                          think about that

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                                                                                          • xmas13
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                                                            • 5176

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Obama is a mack daddy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfZqMkdpYi0

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                                                                                            • uno
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                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                              • 18450

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                              I guess that fact he was speaking with a camera in front of him eluded you?

                                                                                              I got that he's back pedaling because the news organizations aren't putting a sunny outlook on his agenda.

                                                                                              But you will argue for your champion, I don't have one
                                                                                              You are either being intellectually dishonest, purposefully obtuse or grasping at straws with this one.
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                                                                                              • Tom_PM
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                                                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                                                • 16443

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                He had the camera on him and used it to vent his frustration over the news coverage that has hurt his agenda, if it were just for the democrats, it would have been behind closed doors like the deals he made to try and get the healthcare bill passed
                                                                                                Are you deliberately trying to confuse people? I figure yes to all such threads, but thats because I have more faith in peoples intelligence. Maybe it's my mistake, but I'm still choosing to believe that these threads are just tactics. Poor tactics, but still political tactics made to confuse dumb people.

                                                                                                You asked before why he didnt tell that to republicans. Maybe you missed the meeting he had last week with the republican congress? If you only watch Foxnews, then you missed it because Foxnews cut away from it as soon as Obama starting shoving their bullshit back into their faces on live tv. Foxnews said on sunday that they arent concerned with events, they are concerned with ratings. Instead of showing Obama OWNING the entire GOP on live tv, Foxnews cut away to crazy rabble rousing critics of Obama as usual. They are pussies.

                                                                                                So maybe thats why you missed it.
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                                                                                                • uno
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                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                  #49
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                                                                                                  • Eric
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                                                                                                    • Dec 2000
                                                                                                    • 8818

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                    "Obama wants to take away our guns"

                                                                                                    Liberals don't believe in the second amendment, plain and simple, every time one takes office, new gun laws take effect, under the guise of it's going to lower gun related crime, yeah the criminals love gun control legislation. Now they are making it harder to get ammo, trying to limit ammo purchases to 50 bullets per month, I go thru 500 every time I go shooting, minimum! I raised my daughter in my house with assault weapons and rifles handed down from generations of my family, she was trained how to shoot them and it was never a problem, she got a marksmanship ribbon for the pistol in boot camp in the Navy.

                                                                                                    "That Obama doesn't want us watching TV."

                                                                                                    I have a hard time with the way Obama has treated Fox news, denying them access to a white house meeting for one, he doesn't like that they are not reporting his agenda in a good light. It's censorship, no other word for it. I believe that Obama was venting his frustration over the news reporting on him during the speech that he knew was being seen by everyone.
                                                                                                    Being in this business, I have a hard time with any form of censorship and every time Obama brings it up, I get a chill. He's no the first president to have problems with the press, but he is the worse at handling it
                                                                                                    Show me the LAW that OBAMA is pushing through to limit OUR purchasing of ammo. Not a law from a senator, or a bill, or some other piece of shit proposal that isn't even close to the presidents desk.

                                                                                                    You having a HARD time with what someone is saying or how you FEEL he is reacting has nothing to do with the cold hard facts of what is being said and done.

                                                                                                    The media is just as much to blame for a lot of this shit, BOTH SIDES. They rally the masses and push for emotional responses. Why, because that gets people to tune in. From Howard, to Rush, to Beck they are all pushing the publics emotional button to get a reaction.

                                                                                                    You have yet to point out any specific instance of OBAMA saying, "America, TURN OFF YOUR TVs" or signing any bills into law to take away guns or ammo. You are speculating.
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