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  • mmcfadden
    So Fucking Banned
    • Oct 2008
    • 5099

    #1

    have you seen a decline in sales? do you want to know why?

    I have spent more hours answering this question then I want to admit.

    But if you are having a problem speak now and I will answer it.
  • LeCoq
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    • Jul 2009
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    #2
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    • BillyHoe
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      • Mar 2003
      • 2214

      #3
      I've noticed a slight decline Mid week but picked up again Thursday night and yesterday.
      What do you think the issue is?

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      • mmcfadden
        So Fucking Banned
        • Oct 2008
        • 5099

        #4
        Originally posted by BillyHoe
        I've noticed a slight decline Mid week but picked up again Thursday night and yesterday.
        What do you think the issue is?
        My issue is I gave a price on my site, 29.95, regional billing fucked that hardcore.

        I also had security issues with my UM and still don't understand exactly the problem except my host told me it was an issue so I got rid of it.

        I also have a few other suspicions and want others to post prior

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        • michael.kickass
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          • Mar 2009
          • 11039

          #5
          Not really, sales have been similar to the past year
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          • Barefootsies
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            • Feb 2005
            • 42635

            #6
            Jan has been a odd month in both traffic and memberships.
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            • mmcfadden
              So Fucking Banned
              • Oct 2008
              • 5099

              #7
              Originally posted by Barefootsies
              Jan has been a odd month in both traffic and memberships.
              I have had more traffic then ever the past 2 weeks.

              Everybody should listen to this statement...
              Get rid of regional billing... It is hurting your sales big time

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              • BillyHoe
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2003
                • 2214

                #8
                Originally posted by mmcfadden
                My issue is I gave a price on my site, 29.95, regional billing fucked that hardcore.

                I also had security issues with my UM and still don't understand exactly the problem except my host told me it was an issue so I got rid of it.

                I also have a few other suspicions and want others to post prior
                I don't use regional billing. I found it hurt my sales alot. I still find the odd site CCBill messed up on but you can hard-code the USD (or whatever currency you want) in your join page, to avoid it.
                For your security issue have you host only allow CCBill's IP to access the script and you should be fine.
                Hit me up on ICQ if you want and you can share your suspicions. I have a few suspicions to why sales jump up and down sometimes as-well.

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                • BillyHoe
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 2214

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mmcfadden
                  I have had more traffic then ever the past 2 weeks.

                  Everybody should listen to this statement...
                  Get rid of regional billing... It is hurting your sales big time
                  Yup I agree 100%. I believe you should leave the price in USD and let the surfer choose to switch if they want.

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                  • lagcam
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 2890

                    #10
                    Regional billing is classic short term thinking that was always going to fuck customers off when they realised they were paying more than somebody else for the same service.
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                    • mmcfadden
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 5099

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BillyHoe
                      I don't use regional billing. I found it hurt my sales alot. I still find the odd site CCBill messed up on but you can hard-code the USD (or whatever currency you want) in your join page, to avoid it.
                      For your security issue have you host only allow CCBill's IP to access the script and you should be fine.
                      Hit me up on ICQ if you want and you can share your suspicions. I have a few suspicions to why sales jump up and down sometimes as-well.
                      My home computer with icq blew up a couple days ago.

                      My email is mmcfadden at vstrippoker dot com

                      I use ccbill and am trouble shooting problems now. I have been doing so for 3 weeks now and I am at a point whete I will rip the head off anybody who pisses me off

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                      • Zester
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                        • Jul 2003
                        • 5344

                        #12
                        Originally posted by LeCoq
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                        • chupachups
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                          • Dec 2002
                          • 6576

                          #13
                          Originally posted by mmcfadden
                          I have spent more hours answering this question then I want to admit.

                          But if you are having a problem speak now and I will answer it.
                          I believe GUBA and SWOIT are to blame, do you agree?

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                          • BillyHoe
                            Confirmed User
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 2214

                            #14
                            Originally posted by mmcfadden
                            My home computer with icq blew up a couple days ago.

                            My email is mmcfadden at vstrippoker dot com

                            I use ccbill and am trouble shooting problems now. I have been doing so for 3 weeks now and I am at a point whete I will rip the head off anybody who pisses me off
                            I know the feeling. I've been there before. I'm running in and out today but drop me a line at gfy|at|sexserver.com with what you're frustrated with and I might be able to point you in the right direction. Sometimes a fresh set of eyes helps alot.

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                            • mmcfadden
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 5099

                              #15
                              Originally posted by chupachups
                              I believe GUBA and SWOIT are to blame, do you agree?
                              I believe the problem in ccbill billing lies mostly in regional billing

                              I have no idea what guba and the other abb. You mentioned. Maybe it does, can you explain?

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                              • andrej_NDC
                                Registered User
                                • May 2004
                                • 7760

                                #16
                                Regional billing never affected my sales in any way. Sales were the same, income higher.

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                                • andrej_NDC
                                  Registered User
                                  • May 2004
                                  • 7760

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by lagcam
                                  Regional billing is classic short term thinking that was always going to fuck customers off when they realised they were paying more than somebody else for the same service.
                                  Where do I ask for my money, if I paid twice as much for a car in EU compared to the US? Same car.

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                                  • mmcfadden
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Oct 2008
                                    • 5099

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                    Regional billing never affected my sales in any way. Sales were the same, income higher.
                                    I am spilling my findings... At firdt back in the middle of 09 regional billing was profitable.

                                    What I havbe found is that it is now hindering sales

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                                    • SomeCreep
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                                      • Mar 2003
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                                      #19
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                                      • mmcfadden
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                                        • Oct 2008
                                        • 5099

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by SomeCreep
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                                        • Overload
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                                          • Jul 2005
                                          • 3185

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by lagcam
                                          Regional billing is classic short term thinking that was always going to fuck customers off when they realised they were paying more than somebody else for the same service.
                                          ca-ching! right to the money ... way back when some*P*gonzo switched to bill euro surfers a whopping ?39,95 (almost $60) i switched to dropping their promos instantly after seeing sales go to hell
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                                          • RegUser
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Nov 2004
                                            • 1472

                                            #22
                                            I have had regional billing for past year now and NO, I did not notice any decline in sales till past few days.
                                            I suspect crackdown by mcard/visa/banks has something to do with it and that has swept ccbill off its feet.
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                                            • bns666
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                                              • Mar 2005
                                              • 11554

                                              #23
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                                              • mmcfadden
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Oct 2008
                                                • 5099

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by RegUser
                                                I have had regional billing for past year now and NO, I did not notice any decline in sales till past few days.
                                                I suspect crackdown by mcard/visa/banks has something to do with it and that has swept ccbill off its feet.
                                                Tubes.....well I doubt if anyone will be paying for porn in next 12-24 months. The industry is finished.
                                                Everybody hates tubes. But this is not a tube problem.

                                                I don't even remember where I left off and where to continue...

                                                Oh yeah... I had regional billing turned on since it started, I am now saying that it is killing sales

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                                                • notime
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                  • 8025

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by mmcfadden
                                                  I have had more traffic then ever the past 2 weeks.

                                                  Everybody should listen to this statement...
                                                  Get rid of regional billing... It is hurting your sales big time
                                                  Define regional billing / billing companies here.
                                                  I only use specific local billing companies in each country and cc processors only as second
                                                  and I don't see any problems so far.
                                                  Last edited by notime; 01-30-2010, 02:36 PM.

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                                                  • mmcfadden
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Oct 2008
                                                    • 5099

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by notime
                                                    Define regional billing / billing companies here.
                                                    I only use specific local billing companies in each country and cc processors only as second
                                                    and I don't see any problems so far.
                                                    My definition is:

                                                    Ccbills way of charging

                                                    So in short... Ccbill regional billing

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                                                    • notime
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                      • 8025

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by mmcfadden
                                                      My definition is:

                                                      Ccbills way of charging

                                                      So in short... Ccbill regional billing
                                                      I do not use ccbill myself since my VOD site in only in Holland/Belgium where people do not use CC so much, so I guess I don't have answers here for you.

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                                                      • mmcfadden
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Oct 2008
                                                        • 5099

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by notime
                                                        I do not use ccbill myself since my VOD site in only in Holland/Belgium where people do not use CC so much, so I guess I don't have answers here for you.
                                                        I have the answers.

                                                        Do I need to pop up on your screen as god?

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                                                        • topnotch, standup guy
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Mar 2008
                                                          • 1562

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by mmcfadden
                                                          Everybody should listen to this statement...
                                                          Get rid of regional billing... It is hurting your sales big time


                                                          Any other ideas?

                                                          I mean, other ideas besides that one?
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                                                          • mmcfadden
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Oct 2008
                                                            • 5099

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by topnotch, standup guy


                                                            Any other ideas?

                                                            I mean, other ideas besides that one?
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                                                            • mmcfadden
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Oct 2008
                                                              • 5099

                                                              #31
                                                              I feel like an asshole for not telling yall why sales have sucked.

                                                              Regiional. Billing is the main reason

                                                              Noticed a sharp increase in sales and then a drop shortly after? Like a throttle just got choked?

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                                                              • XPays
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                                                                • May 2004
                                                                • 13002

                                                                #32
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                                                                • BV
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                                                                  • Sep 2001
                                                                  • 10914

                                                                  #33
                                                                  People, please don't get "Regional Billing" & "Global Forms" mixed up.

                                                                  There is nothing wrong with displaying Euro customers your price in Euros (as long as it equals your USA customer price) This is what standard "Global Forms" does.

                                                                  When you display your price in Euros (and the Euro price exchange rate value equals more that your USA USD customer price) this is "Regional Billing" and what mmcfadden is referring to.

                                                                  This has to be "opted in" by the sponsor.

                                                                  "Global Forms" is pretty common and most all ccbill sponsors use these. (and should)

                                                                  (These are the flags at the top of the signup form.)
                                                                  Last edited by BV; 01-30-2010, 04:42 PM.

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                                                                  • mmcfadden
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • Oct 2008
                                                                    • 5099

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by XPays
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                                                                    I have no idea what that means.

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                                                                    • mmcfadden
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Oct 2008
                                                                      • 5099

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by BV
                                                                      People, please don't get "Regional Billing" & "Global Forms" mixed up.

                                                                      There is nothing wrong with displaying Euro customers your price in Euros (as long as it equals your USA customer price) This is what standard "Global Forms" does.

                                                                      When you display your price in Euros (and the Euro price exchange rate value equals more that your USA USD customer price) this is "Regional Billing" and what mmcfadden is referring to.

                                                                      This has to be "opted in" by the sponsor.

                                                                      "Global Forms" is pretty common and most all ccbill sponsors use these. (and should)

                                                                      (These are the flags at the top of the signup form.)
                                                                      I want to say something witty but my words have run dry

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                                                                      • BV
                                                                        wtf
                                                                        • Sep 2001
                                                                        • 10914

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by mmcfadden
                                                                        I want to say something witty but my words have run dry
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                                                                        • XPays
                                                                          Team Player
                                                                          • May 2004
                                                                          • 13002

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by mmcfadden
                                                                          I have no idea what that means.
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                                                                          • mmcfadden
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Oct 2008
                                                                            • 5099

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by XPays
                                                                            we diversified with new pages designed to convert in today's market & the market has responded with more commerce. this was after a seeing a decline in months prior to now.
                                                                            Well shit junior. Ya couldn't have said that to start?

                                                                            I am talking up to a 75 percent decrease in sales, not a percent that you may gety paid for every day

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                                                                            • lagcam
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2007
                                                                              • 2890

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                                              Where do I ask for my money, if I paid twice as much for a car in EU compared to the US? Same car.
                                                                              If you think that is the same you are an idiot.
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                                                                              • lagcam
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jul 2007
                                                                                • 2890

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by BV
                                                                                People, please don't get "Regional Billing" & "Global Forms" mixed up.

                                                                                There is nothing wrong with displaying Euro customers your price in Euros (as long as it equals your USA customer price) This is what standard "Global Forms" does.

                                                                                When you display your price in Euros (and the Euro price exchange rate value equals more that your USA USD customer price) this is "Regional Billing" and what mmcfadden is referring to.

                                                                                This has to be "opted in" by the sponsor.

                                                                                "Global Forms" is pretty common and most all ccbill sponsors use these. (and should)

                                                                                (These are the flags at the top of the signup form.)
                                                                                Yes you have a great point here. I think some people may be confusing the issue.

                                                                                The problem is CCBILL'S REGIONAL BILLING where a US customer is charged $29.95 and an EU customer is charged 29.95 EUROS. The normal join forms that convert the $29.95 into the EQUIVALENT Euros for an EU customer are great.
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                                                                                • CPimp
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Aug 2009
                                                                                  • 2346

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  I am sorry to hear that regional billing has caused you the decline in sales. mmcfadden. At least you figured that part of it out and things are doing way better again for you now!
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                                                                                  • HomerSimpson
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                                                                                    • Sep 2005
                                                                                    • 13826

                                                                                    #42
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                                                                                    • xenigo
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                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                      • 8067

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      I guess you're looking for a solution. How about turning off regional billing, and see if that fixes your issue? Seems the solution and the problem are rather obvious. I don't know where the controvercy is here.

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                                                                                      • andrej_NDC
                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                        • May 2004
                                                                                        • 7760

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by lagcam
                                                                                        If you think that is the same you are an idiot.
                                                                                        It is the same and you are the idiot here, go read about demand and supply, thats what creates the price, not the actual value of the product.

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                                                                                        • andrej_NDC
                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                          • May 2004
                                                                                          • 7760

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by mmcfadden
                                                                                          Well shit junior. Ya couldn't have said that to start?

                                                                                          I am talking up to a 75 percent decrease in sales, not a percent that you may gety paid for every day
                                                                                          lol US sales are around 70%, 30% Europe and rest of the world. So regional pricing also lowered your US sales? What kind of math are pulling here. Regional stats don't change sales at all, but of course you can't tell with 0-5 sales per day, if you have 50 sales, come back making stats.

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                                                                                          • Naechy
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                                                                                            • Sep 2007
                                                                                            • 6497

                                                                                            #46
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