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Iron Fist · 01-29-2010, 10:24 AM

Fiddy...

mistick · 01-29-2010, 12:27 PM

sounds great and interesting

Loki · 01-29-2010, 12:36 PM

IF you want any input on toons (Anime, Hentai, 3D and hand drawn) then let me know and I will gladly throw my 10+ years of skills and tips into the ring.

-Loki-

myjah · 01-29-2010, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdc-Loki

IF you want any input on toons (Anime, Hentai, 3D and hand drawn) then let me know and I will gladly throw my 10+ years of skills and tips into the ring.

-Loki-

Would love to have you participate. I'll send you an email

maccsta · 01-29-2010, 09:29 PM

Maybe I can re-heat my old swimming pool with this info. Standing by!

Nysus · 01-29-2010, 09:50 PM

Are you going to allow scammers to submit articles for this? Hopefully you won't help promote such people.

maccsta · 01-29-2010, 10:01 PM

I'm down for this. Maybe I can retire!

JoshyJ · 01-29-2010, 10:07 PM

Looking forward to this.

born2blog · 01-29-2010, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpahlca

So the big secrets:

1) cross sales as a business are based on your ability to monetize the sale into a single rebill and then profit on volume (i.e. if you take in 10k cross sales and make 1$ profit per thats 10k$ profit ;))
2) the majority of paysites have little ability to retain members so rely on cross sales out and cam and dating upsales to make profit.
3) the vast majority of paysite programs do under 50 sales a day.
4) most big cross sale programs would do over 1 to 2k sales a day.
5) if your an affiliate and thats your only source of revenue quit now.
6) real sales volume of 100+ sales a day without cross sales means you are a doing something right.
7) tube's havent hurt sales one bit on paysites, anyone who says they have didnt match the facebook and twitter and myspace alexa graphs to their sales.
8) if you think a reality tour or some bs designer who has never run a paysite knows how to make a good tour. You are on crack. Same goes for gallery designers if they dont submit galleries to big sites themselves then why buy from them?
9) your host matters dont go with the cheapest or the most expensive, test them out call them at 2 am and tell them your server is down find out how long it takes for them to get back to you. Check the connectivity and peer network they use.
10) if you run a paysite and use one or two billers, you are making a mistake have 10 mitigate your risk and thruput by adjusting your biller to the sales thru put of the moment.

there you go enjoy.

wow, excellent post

DWB · 01-29-2010, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myjah

THE RULES:
1) Trolling in GFY Educational Threads will be grounds for immediate banning for one week.

Oh.

Never mind then.

kmanrox · 01-29-2010, 10:59 PM

with special guest writers, pimpdog, teencat, turboface and theking!

NaughtyRob · 01-29-2010, 11:32 PM

I like this idea.

Tea Money · 01-30-2010, 12:05 AM

I'll 'cop a squat' right here

CyberHustler · 01-30-2010, 01:34 AM

So much change, I just hope GFY isn't jumping the shark...

FruityFoot · 01-30-2010, 01:38 AM

actually I see no reason for someone to just give away the knowledge he learned on his own for years

but when are we starting?

MaDalton · 01-30-2010, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Right, because no one on GFY knows jack, I guess.

yaaaawwwwwnnnnnn....

NETbilling · 01-30-2010, 07:54 AM

Looking forward to participating

bufferover · 01-30-2010, 07:57 AM

Great news from you guys

Redrob · 01-30-2010, 08:55 AM

Great idea! I will be an avid reader of the forum.

Kolargol · 01-30-2010, 11:21 AM

I'm really curious who the info is going to be for (level of experience in adult I mean)

StuartD · 01-30-2010, 11:46 AM

Funny, this sounds exactly what was started on MP just a few months ago. Has to be a coincidence.

GlobalCorp · 01-30-2010, 03:30 PM

Outstanding effort! Let's make some moves in a more professional direction.

Kudos

XPays · 01-30-2010, 07:15 PM

I like this.

groovybusdriver · 01-30-2010, 11:25 PM

I'll create & contribute a beneficial video on the general, but detailed subject of the importance of RELEVENCY in relation to marketing and it's direct impact on earning $$$,$$$.00 a year.

What do I get in return for such valuable info and rights to video?

Been an affiliate for years, as well as to many of your advertisers and others ;) hit me up, Jeremy - [email protected] or ICQ 138209809

John. · 01-30-2010, 11:34 PM

Excellent stuff, delighted to see GFY taking steps like this

badpuma · 01-31-2010, 12:24 AM

Looking forward to this

Roby · 01-31-2010, 08:12 AM

great topic !!!

emjay · 01-31-2010, 08:38 AM

Nice move

The Porn Nerd · 01-31-2010, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpahlca

So the big secrets:

1) cross sales as a business are based on your ability to monetize the sale into a single rebill and then profit on volume (i.e. if you take in 10k cross sales and make 1$ profit per thats 10k$ profit ;))
2) the majority of paysites have little ability to retain members so rely on cross sales out and cam and dating upsales to make profit.
3) the vast majority of paysite programs do under 50 sales a day.
4) most big cross sale programs would do over 1 to 2k sales a day.
5) if your an affiliate and thats your only source of revenue quit now.
6) real sales volume of 100+ sales a day without cross sales means you are a doing something right.
7) tube's havent hurt sales one bit on paysites, anyone who says they have didnt match the facebook and twitter and myspace alexa graphs to their sales.
8) if you think a reality tour or some bs designer who has never run a paysite knows how to make a good tour. You are on crack. Same goes for gallery designers if they dont submit galleries to big sites themselves then why buy from them?
9) your host matters dont go with the cheapest or the most expensive, test them out call them at 2 am and tell them your server is down find out how long it takes for them to get back to you. Check the connectivity and peer network they use.
10) if you run a paysite and use one or two billers, you are making a mistake have 10 mitigate your risk and thruput by adjusting your biller to the sales thru put of the moment.

there you go enjoy.

Much of what you advise is SPOT ON so fantastic work! However, ths '100 sales a day' thing, or even half that number, is an unrealistic goal for the average affiliate, or paysite owner.

Do the math: 100 sales a day translates into 3,000 sales a month. $30 a sale (average) and we're talking ONE MILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUE MONTHLY. And what percentage, from 100 sales a day, would rebill? Let's be positive and say 20%. Great, that's six hundred rebills monthly. So, six months in, and you've got....call it a thousand rebills (although if you're pumping three thousand sales a month you should be able to retain higher than 20%) but just for shit's sake let's call it a thousand rebills a month. That's another what, $360,000 a year, just in rebills?

My friend, if you are talking THOSE kinds of numbers then whatever info or teaching an affiliate could learn from this thread probably would not apply to them. in other words, if you're cranking out $12-$15 MILLION DOLLARS in revenue yearly then, well, open a college and stop reading this thread altogether. LOL

A more 'realistic' goal, IMHO, for an affiliate or paysite owner who is a 'small' affiliate, or even a medium-sized one, would be 10-20 sales a day. 20 sales daily translates into (app) 600 sales a month times $30 equals...$18,000 in monthly revenue. After taxes, expenses, splits, yada yada maybe you walk away with $75,000-$100,000 a year in income. Hey, not bad but better than 95% of working stiffs, right?

Anyway, just wanted to throw my two cents in. LOL Otherwise, great points mate!!!

Octopus · 01-31-2010, 11:56 AM

should be interesting

Shap · 01-31-2010, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Much of what you advise is SPOT ON so fantastic work! However, ths '100 sales a day' thing, or even half that number, is an unrealistic goal for the average affiliate, or paysite owner.

Do the math: 100 sales a day translates into 3,000 sales a month. $30 a sale (average) and we're talking ONE MILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUE MONTHLY. And what percentage, from 100 sales a day, would rebill? Let's be positive and say 20%. Great, that's six hundred rebills monthly. So, six months in, and you've got....call it a thousand rebills (although if you're pumping three thousand sales a month you should be able to retain higher than 20%) but just for shit's sake let's call it a thousand rebills a month. That's another what, $360,000 a year, just in rebills?

My friend, if you are talking THOSE kinds of numbers then whatever info or teaching an affiliate could learn from this thread probably would not apply to them. in other words, if you're cranking out $12-$15 MILLION DOLLARS in revenue yearly then, well, open a college and stop reading this thread altogether. LOL

A more 'realistic' goal, IMHO, for an affiliate or paysite owner who is a 'small' affiliate, or even a medium-sized one, would be 10-20 sales a day. 20 sales daily translates into (app) 600 sales a month times $30 equals...$18,000 in monthly revenue. After taxes, expenses, splits, yada yada maybe you walk away with $75,000-$100,000 a year in income. Hey, not bad but better than 95% of working stiffs, right?

Anyway, just wanted to throw my two cents in. LOL Otherwise, great points mate!!!

Your math is way off. Pull out the calculator and you'll see what I mean.

The Porn Nerd · 01-31-2010, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

Your math is way off. Pull out the calculator and you'll see what I mean.

HAH! Gotta lay off that ganja so early...LOL OF COURSE: 100 sales a day times 30 days at an average $30 a sale and it's closer to a hundred thousand a month.

So: one too many ZEROS. LOL Anyway, thanks for pointing that out. But still, 1.5 million a year in sales/rebills (not counting any other monetization)...is THAT a 'realistic' goal if you're a paysite owner or an affiliate?

Sure hope it is!! Thanks for pointing out my mistakes.

Great thread!

Shap · 01-31-2010, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

HAH! Gotta lay off that ganja so early...LOL OF COURSE: 100 sales a day times 30 days at an average $30 a sale and it's closer to a hundred thousand a month.

So: one too many ZEROS. LOL Anyway, thanks for pointing that out. But still, 1.5 million a year in sales/rebills (not counting any other monetization)...is THAT a 'realistic' goal if you're a paysite owner or an affiliate?

Sure hope it is!! Thanks for pointing out my mistakes.

Great thread!

It is definitely realistic. Many have achieved that and well beyond it.

The Porn Nerd · 01-31-2010, 02:26 PM

Then Yay for 100 sales a day! LOL This will be interesting, this thread...

Zester · 01-31-2010, 02:26 PM

this board might actually turn productive....

Hotrocket · 01-31-2010, 03:01 PM

I think its a great idea..my only issue is I think leaving the article in the main forum for a week is too long..I think 24-48 hours in the main forum and then move it to the Edu forum while the discussion is hopefully still active. Or possibly display the topic in both forums simultaneously if you are set on the 1 week time frame.

Iron Fist · 01-31-2010, 06:48 PM

Let me smoke my crack pipe and see what numbers pop out of my ass...

TXXXTN · 01-31-2010, 09:24 PM

Awesome, looking forward to this!

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 01-31-2010, 09:35 PM

I'm sure successful industry insiders can't wait to share valuable information with gfy.

Should be interesting either way.

Sausage · 01-31-2010, 09:47 PM

Gee wonder where gfy got this idea ;)

Maybe something we have been doing all year already ?

GTS Mark · 01-31-2010, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpahlca

So the big secrets:

1) cross sales as a business are based on your ability to monetize the sale into a single rebill and then profit on volume (i.e. if you take in 10k cross sales and make 1$ profit per thats 10k$ profit ;))
2) the majority of paysites have little ability to retain members so rely on cross sales out and cam and dating upsales to make profit.
3) the vast majority of paysite programs do under 50 sales a day.
4) most big cross sale programs would do over 1 to 2k sales a day.
5) if your an affiliate and thats your only source of revenue quit now.
6) real sales volume of 100+ sales a day without cross sales means you are a doing something right.
7) tube's havent hurt sales one bit on paysites, anyone who says they have didnt match the facebook and twitter and myspace alexa graphs to their sales.
8) if you think a reality tour or some bs designer who has never run a paysite knows how to make a good tour. You are on crack. Same goes for gallery designers if they dont submit galleries to big sites themselves then why buy from them?
9) your host matters dont go with the cheapest or the most expensive, test them out call them at 2 am and tell them your server is down find out how long it takes for them to get back to you. Check the connectivity and peer network they use.
10) if you run a paysite and use one or two billers, you are making a mistake have 10 mitigate your risk and thruput by adjusting your biller to the sales thru put of the moment.

there you go enjoy.

Great info!!!

GTS Mark · 01-31-2010, 11:36 PM

Eric BTW I would be happy to offer any tips if you need advice on traffic/monetization etc...

Waiter · 02-01-2010, 05:42 AM

Sounds good interesting

Loki · 02-01-2010, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myjah

Would love to have you participate. I'll send you an email

Never got the email yet.

-Loki-

Dirty D · 02-01-2010, 07:12 AM

Serious Bidness!

What will the trolls do?

myjah · 02-01-2010, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdc-Loki

Never got the email yet.

-Loki-

Check it again - if you don't have an email now, hit me up on ICQ

myjah · 02-01-2010, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST

Eric BTW I would be happy to offer any tips if you need advice on traffic/monetization etc...

Hey, sent you an email - sounds great!

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