It is kind a funny how people accuses Obama for lying ....
When did any politician in any country did what they promised in their campaign ?

suit yourself man but thanks for proving my point.

Obamas lies are about the way things are done, not about what he wants to do. Promising to do something about the economy is one thing, or maybe pulling the troops back. But he lied about bipartisanship, transparency and pork spending to such an extreme that it's sickening.

When he pulled all the democrats in behind closed doors to make special pork deals, he broke all those in one day!

How did I do that?

Why aren't you bitching at the GOP for not working with him, the dems or listening to what the majority of the country wanted? Basically that's the issue... not Obama.

You may want to read what was actually said about pork spending or earmarks....then read what happened.

On Transparency he never said everything... he said more, and he is far more transparent than the previous administration. It sounds like you're expecting far too much.

Yep, every president ever, has broken some promises - it's part of the job, the heart wants more than it can deliver. Or what others will allow you to deliver.

Appeal to the masses? He did that with the health care bill and loud morons went nuts about it... so he changed direction. He got kicked in the balls and is changing direction, like he should.


I'm confused on the Don't ask Don't Tell, wouldn't you support him removing that, being that it's not part of tradition and is just political bullshit?

I really don't care on the conduct medal... just the fact that someone ever changed it is stupid, and now that it is 3 years, changing it back or giving a shit about it, is equally as stupid.

my point was people use the excuse of being paralyzed due to the government when instead all of us able to work should assume responsibility for ourselves.

you said i.e. you are not capable of being responsible for yourself because of some choice(s) the government made.

that's exactly what i am talking about- the government hasn't stopped me from working hard and creating new ways of adding to my income. why? because i'm not sitting around waiting for the gov to do something for me, i've realized that ain't gonna happen.

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The gop didn't want a government take over of healthcare, it's against the 10th amendent and it's not the Doctors I talked to wanted
here's what he said---Let each bill pass or fail on its own merits?no pork , no pay
I'm expecting him to keep to his word, he could have proved it, but instead did deals behind the door away from C-Span, something again he promised not to do
He could have worked with the GOP, he could have kept to his word of no pork, he could have let C-Span in like he promised, but refused, these are simple things that was a promise that he made to state he was different and got him elected
I havn't seen a direction change yet, just more promises, we'll see, but the healthcare bill he was pushing down everyone throat was wrong
I'm all for gays serving in the military, why shouldn't they? Just tired of a president that has no service experience making changes in the military.

Some people can do that, many others can't
You can't tell me that 12.5% of california are to blame for unemployment

it's not a debate.

i said those of us able to work should be working, not bitching about what the government hasn't done for us.

again, suit yourself but seriously, 12.5% unemployment here in cali has nothing to do with YOU assuming responsibility for yourself.

it's clear this country is filled with people that view the current situation like you do- they feel helpless in their own lives because they expect a broken government to fix their situation.

anyhoo, good luck to you, i like you.

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It isn't about what the government hasn't done for us, it's about what the government has done TO us!

I like you too

LOL< maybe a little, In the old way old days, people heard about politics from the newspaper, then the TV with most with an opinion on the news were democrats backing a more central of even leftest approach. It's funny to me that we got Rush Limbaugh and others on the airwave, they got more people angry than any other news source. Now we have Fox and I hear all the bitching about how crazy they are, or polished or god fearing right wing war mongers, they bring a different view and have become the number one news source on cable. People are pissed off and the president didn't seem to see a problem with his agenda till Brown took a Kennedy seat. We get news fast now and with different veiws. The independant voters are growing because of this balance I believe thats the best thing that could happen.

Speaking of the 10th amendment if the GOP listened to the people, we would have national health care.

You got your quotes mixed up....

Ah, you're expecting him. Well, no president in history has kept every promise. They may want to, but many reasons stop them.

The GOP isn't even trying to work with Obama, a couple people might be, the majority reject 99% of everything he wants to do.

Yep, different states need different thing and they get paid in pork... Republicans know about pork better than just about anyone, so I'm not really sure why they're going so crazy.... hell many even got some, but yet bitch about it.

I have... lots of us have, the country is clearly turning around. The attitude of Americans is changing, jobs for educated is holding, so many factors showing direction change.

Hell, he tried to take us more social than we already are, talk about a direction change... and you guys went nuts.

A dem's view of change, is never going to align with yours... so you're dreaming if you think you're going to see change.

Ohh... I guess I don't care that Clinton didn't have experience, the law was a good thing for the time so making the next progressive step to me just seems natural, hell it's been 17 years - it's about time the Military gets with the program.