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kmanrox 12-20-2002 11:46 PM

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Originally posted by OnTime
So, kindly name a couple sites retaining recurs at 85%+. Hell just name one.
oliversmoney.com and not sure on MPB, havent looked at those stats lately

i know or cartoon sites retain over 86% due to our exclusive content....

OnTime 12-20-2002 11:47 PM

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Originally posted by Shaggy
http://www.sexinfinity.net

sign up and you'll understand.

Understand what? How to retain at 52% LOL?

Shaggy 12-20-2002 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by OnTime


Understand what? How to retain at 52% LOL?

You didn't sign up now did you? Do your homework ignoranus.

Shaggy 12-20-2002 11:50 PM

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Originally posted by OnTime


Understand what? How to retain at 52% LOL?

You can also see my previous post explaining those numbers.

p1mpdogg 12-20-2002 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by MarkTiarra
All the power to ya bro. All I wanna add is that there are people hitting higher retention numbers and just because you or someone else hasn't come in contact with them, don't discount it as unreal. There are as many stories and results in this business as there are flmaing opinions on this board. =]



I dont know why you took my post so personal.. maybe im just a jerk i dunno.. but, I did point out that those numbers are unrealistic with the EXCEPTION of untouched niches(unique) and exclusive content IE quiets site, kman's sites he mentioned etc..

there are 2 classes of sites in my opinion. :2 cents:

OnTime 12-20-2002 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by Shaggy


You can also see my previous post explaining those numbers.

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My 52% isn't exactly fair though. It is from months of testing strictly with purchased SE traffic with precisely targeted key phrases.

My site is strictly for broadband users who like straight hardcore. So I only targeted them.
That kind of traffic would tend to give a higher than normal retention, no? So you thinkk 52% is good?

Shaggy 12-21-2002 12:01 AM

that's why I said at the bottom:

"I do admit though, when I release my site with a partnership program some webmasters will try to sell my site to dialup users that won't like it because of long downloads and will cancel. Thus dropping my precious conversion % a little. Only time will tell how much."

I'm sure it won't stay at 52% but I might be able to hold steady at 40% or so. If I get a lot of movie sites sending people with broadband that like mpegs I might keep it at 52%. I will keep you posted. I launch in about 10 days. We're giving away a Yamaha Raptor to kick things off. :thumbsup

and yes, 52% is good no matter how you cut it. The average is 20-25% from what I've heard.

MarkTiarra 12-21-2002 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by OnTime
So, kindly name a couple sites retaining recurs at 85%+. Hell just name one.
Well I have to ask for permission before I can post details of any client. The only one up right now is Local G and he said no prob. So there's one for ya. Take a look at my client list and do the math otherwise. =]

quiet 12-21-2002 12:09 AM

hilarious little thread.

:glugglug

Shaggy 12-21-2002 12:13 AM

come on quiet, what are your retention numbers?

on second thought, that's probably why you call yourself quiet. Fuck arguing anymore. No more secrets from me. quiet II is born.:glugglug

MarkTiarra 12-21-2002 12:14 AM

Oh that's just cuz I'm a big pussy.


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Originally posted by p1mpdogg


I dont know why you took my post so personal.. maybe im just a jerk i dunno.. but, I did point out that those numbers are unrealistic with the EXCEPTION of untouched niches(unique) and exclusive content IE quiets site, kman's sites he mentioned etc..

there are 2 classes of sites in my opinion. :2 cents:


Nickatilynx 12-21-2002 12:25 AM

Mark,

What percentage shave did you factor in?

:)

MarkTiarra 12-21-2002 12:44 AM

Zero you big poopy!

Now as we all know, no matter what you do... the most honest guy who doesn't shave one single sign up willhave sign ups not credited for various reasons... no tracking software is 100% perfect and you get some you just don't know where they came from.

So part of that is accounted for in the part of the spreadsheet that calcs how much traffic is from resellers and how much is generated in house.

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx
Mark,

What percentage shave did you factor in?

:)


G Sharp 03-15-2003 01:21 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt


It does take some major scratch to be a per signup playa.

How much? 50K? 80? 120K? Is there an alternative path? ie., growing slowly or offering lower payouts?


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