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  • MrPopup
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2002
    • 3783

    #1

    "The Music Piracy Myth" (found online)

    From Slashdot and elsewhere:

    A conversation about the RIAA

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    ------ Forwarded Message
    From: "Tim O'Reilly" <[email protected]>
    Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 18:13:44 -0700
    To: David Farber <[email protected]>
    Subject: FW: The Music Piracy Myth

    Dave, I thought your readers might enjoy the following rant from George
    Ziemann, who's been doing analysis of the RIAA members' own statistics to
    argue that the decline in sales is related to their reduced title output and
    higher prices, not to file sharing.

    For the articles to which he refers, see
    http://www.azoz.com/music/features/0008.html and
    http://yahoo.businessweek.com/techno...30213_9095_tc0
    78.htm

    --
    Tim O'Reilly @ O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.
    1005 Gravenstein Highway North, Sebastopol, CA 95472
    1-707-829-0515 http://www.oreilly.com, http://tim.oreilly.com


    ------ Forwarded Message
    From: George Ziemann <[email protected]>
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 22:47:19 -0700
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: The Music Piracy Myth

    Currently, if you do a google search on RIAA statistics, I'm number one
    and two; you are three and four, and your article refers to me, so I
    know you know who I am.

    The article to which you referred was published in December. Since that
    time, a lot has happened, as I'm sure you are aware, not the least of
    which being the RIAA's recent lawsuits against college students.

    First of all, I am a musician. The only reason I even started
    researching what the RIAA has to say is because of the problems I had
    selling my own work at eBay, which were entirely due to RIAA accusations
    of copyright infringement (it was my own CD).

    After looking at the 2002 RIAA data, I also realized that over the last
    5 years, the recording industry has shipped out more than 2 billion
    physical units of product, adding up to a retail value of more than $20
    billion. You'd think that they would embrace a free marketing and
    promotion opportunity like mp3s. Let's face it, an mp3 is an inferior
    copy. I consider mp3s to be an ad for my actual recording.

    My current consternation comes in the form of a letter from my
    congressional representative, who states that "In 2001, record sales
    were down 10 percent because of unauthorized music downloads..."

    Yes, sales were down. Other than that obvious fact, there is no
    empirical data to suggest that downloading is the cause of the problem.
    I've asked the RIAA. In fact, I would go so far as to say I have
    relentlessly taunted them in hopes of a reasonable explanation. They
    offer none.

    So think about this. As the original research I conducted indicates (and
    has been verified by SoundScan via BusinessWeek.com), the record labels
    began to reduce the number of releases BEFORE the Napster hearings. When
    they went in front of Congress to complain about downloading, Hilary
    Rosen could confidently state that sales were going to suffer.

    Because it was engineered.

    Here's another interesting point. I can go to www.discmakers.com and
    order CDs for $1.89 each. Not "replicated" but created from a glass
    master. As I understand it, the current wholesale price for a CD is
    about $12.

    So how can EMI's Cost of Goods Sold (2001 -- at Hoovers Online) be 71%
    of their income? BMG's 2001 annual report blames industry shortcomings
    "long obscured by market success" and Vivendi told its stockholders that
    an "anticipated lighter release schedule" had something to do with it.
    BMG is the only one that even mentions file sharing -- as a
    justification in investing in Napster.

    Why does "sales are down 10%" overrule any other explanation for
    declining sales?
    A bigger question is -- Why won't anyone in the media even discuss this?

    Recently I spoke to the FCC at a public hearing in Tempe (Phoenix area).
    Next month, I'm going to speak at the DMCA hearings at UCLA Law School.

    Additionally, I'm hearing from college kids all over (Duke, Auburn,
    UCSD, Univ. of North Carolina, Yale Law School, Univ. of Wyoming).
    They're reading my site and they're using it as background for
    dissertations and reports. They ask questions. They do not accept vague
    answers.

    Why does the government accept the "sales are down" without any
    consideration of other, equally plausible explanations? And why does the
    press?

    When the majority of the public is guilty by default, then something is
    terribly wrong.
    I'm not sure why I'm even writing to you, except that you seem to be
    about the fifth person in the country that has applied some logic to
    this issue.

    I've written to every member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Commerce
    Committee and Small Business Committee. I've written to Jay Berman,
    Hilary Rosen and the Recording Artists Coalition. With the lone
    exception of Janis Ian, absolutely everyone has totally ignored me.

    What can we do?

    ------ End of Forwarded Message


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  • juicylinks
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 122992

    #2
    can u summarize that ?

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    • SpaceAce
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2002
      • 6493

      #3
      Originally posted by juicylinks
      can u summarize that ?
      The RIAA is completely full of shit. Music file trading hasn't hurt them at all and they are just blaming shitty sales on the easiest target.

      SpaceAce

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      • Fletch XXX
        GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
        • Jan 2002
        • 60840

        #4
        music is numbers

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        • nemesis
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2001
          • 1335

          #5
          Originally posted by juicylinks
          can u summarize that ?
          I think he is pissed.

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          • Warden
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2002
            • 2906

            #6
            Originally posted by juicylinks
            can u summarize that ?

            This is what I got out of it:

            RIAA = Bad
            File sharing = Good
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            Warden's MS

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