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01-19-2010, 12:53 AM

i know. it's been done to death on this forum, but jesus, i have serious trouble sleeping. still, after all of these years. my girl and cat are snoring logs, and i'm up doing casual scans of gfy, and working on a book that is sure to be a failure (not that i care).

i haven't had a panic attack in many years, i'm comfortable, i exercise every day, happy. but fuck if i can't get into a regular sleep schedule. sleeping pills anyone? i've never tried them, but maybe i should give them a shot? i dunno. ugh.

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01-19-2010, 12:55 AM

I just stay up until I get tired.
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01-19-2010, 12:55 AM

get a Melatonin and Theanine combo pill. Fucking AMAZING stuff. I've never slept better

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01-19-2010, 01:00 AM

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I just stay up until I get tired.

i used to do the same thing. and it was fine (well, sort of), but then i started rocking a normal life with webmaster stuff being more in the background, yet i can not shake the routine. i'm supposed to go to this thing call fresh tracks on Whistler mountain in 5 hours (snowboarding), and i haven't even slept, and i'm not tired even though i've been up since 5 am. blah.

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01-19-2010, 01:05 AM

I know what its like, you go to sleep and then 3am you are up and tossing around trying to think of something to do and then when it is time to get up you are ready to sleep.
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01-19-2010, 05:46 AM

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01-19-2010, 05:49 AM

Originally posted by quiet

my girl and cat are snoring logs

I have major trouble sleeping if my gf is already asleep and starting to snore a little. Pisses me off. I usually have to wake her and then hope i can get to sleep before she starts again...

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01-19-2010, 05:51 AM

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01-19-2010, 05:56 AM

It's 10am and I am about to go to sleep... Been up since 4pm yesterday afternoon. It's really bad here, for me. Now, my 7 yr old sister in law takes the melatonin and she's fuckin OUT in 10 minutes flat. But my problem really sin't sleeping, it's waking up. Then once I am up I never go back to sleep. I need a fucking sleeping pill that wakes me up 7 hours later. Then I'd be happy.

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01-19-2010, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by quiet

i know. it's been done to death on this forum, but jesus, i have serious trouble sleeping. still, after all of these years. my girl and cat are snoring logs, and i'm up doing casual scans of gfy, and working on a book that is sure to be a failure (not that i care).

i haven't had a panic attack in many years, i'm comfortable, i exercise every day, happy. but fuck if i can't get into a regular sleep schedule. sleeping pills anyone? i've never tried them, but maybe i should give them a shot? i dunno. ugh.

You know why you can't sleep? Honestly? Your life is too good to shut your eyes on it.

I had the same issue a few years back when I sold a project I was working on and took like a year or so off from working. I would hop out of bed at like 6A, raring to go, because the whole day was mine to do with as I choose and then I wouldn't even be tired until like 1A.

Then I got back on the treadmill and suddenly I can't drag myself out of bed. Heh.

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01-19-2010, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by quiet

i used to do the same thing. and it was fine (well, sort of), but then i started rocking a normal life with webmaster stuff being more in the background, yet i can not shake the routine. i'm supposed to go to this thing call fresh tracks on Whistler mountain in 5 hours (snowboarding), and i haven't even slept, and i'm not tired even though i've been up since 5 am. blah.

go talk to your doctor? they should be able to give you really mild stuff that gets your body on the regular schedule

and then always wake up really early haha
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01-19-2010, 07:40 AM

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01-19-2010, 07:46 AM

Get some knock out weed. The 2 hits and quit stuff. When you start coming down you'll sleep like a baby. I have always had trouble sleeping my whole life. Now if I smoke a little nugg 2-3 hours before I want to go to sleep when I jump in my bed I'm out in 5 -10 minutes.
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01-19-2010, 07:56 AM

Insomnia is bad, actually can bring a stress level that can kill.

Here are some good tips : No TV or computer 1 hour before going to bed. In that hour, read, meditate and drink a chamomille tea while doing it. 20-30 minutes before going to bed take a natural Melatonine tablet.

I do my workout mid afternoon so when it comes 10:30 - 11:00 pm, after my chill time and sleepy time tea, I am usually out in lala land no more then 15-20 min after my head hits the pillow.

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01-19-2010, 08:04 AM

I was going to say exercise, but then I read that you work out everyday. How many hours do you sleep per day? Did you try reading? Yoga and meditation can also help. You can try staying up an entire day and a half, then going to sleep around 9 - 10 the following night. That's what I do when my sleeping hours gets out of whack.

However, I find that the best way to get to sleep when you can't is by not thinking about how hard it is to fall sleep. Instead try to think about how hard it is to stay awake. Yeah sounds weird but this actually works for me.

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01-19-2010, 08:16 AM

That really sucks, sorry : (

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01-19-2010, 08:17 AM

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some people say its bad but a TV helps me fall asleep bigtime. lets me get my mind off the day or what i want to do tomorrow.
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01-19-2010, 08:38 AM

Didn't have any major problems with insomnia but the title reminded me of the movie Insomnia.Good one and a very good cast

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01-19-2010, 11:00 AM

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01-19-2010, 11:03 AM

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01-19-2010, 11:07 AM

24 hours is just too short.
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01-19-2010, 11:10 AM

If you have had an insomnia for a long time, then stay away from pills or first visit a doctor. Sleeping pills are very addictive, and you will grab to them every night when you feel you can't sleep. Ontop of that, it's generally known that sleeping pills work like cigarettes, over time you will need more of those to get the same effect, to get asleep.

I'm not telling you this because I found it on Google, but because I've been addicted to sleeping pills for 4 years! It all started with an insomnia. At some point I grabbed to sleeping pills. The first weeks, half a pill was enough, after a couple of weeks i needed a whole, then 2, 3, 4. At some point I was taking up to 8 pills to get asleep, every single night.

Now you can say "But I can stop", but you won't be able to without help once you get into the addicted routine of sleeping pills. Just like drugs, you'll need them or you will feel bad. Even more important, without them you won't get asleep anymore.

After 4 years of sleeping pills and therapy I've been into a a special center for a couple of months to ban them out of my life. I'm not using them anymore now, I don't feel like I need them, but it will never really be gone. Sometimes I feel like grabbing to sleeping pills again, i just make sure i don't have them around ;)

For the rest, try to get tired in a natural way. Some of these could be (but not limited to):
- Hot milk (yes it works)
- Excercise
- Healthy Food
- A hot shower right before going to bed. The hotter the better, your body temprature will go up during the shower, and down after it. This will make you feeling tired.

what you should NOT do:
- Sleep during the day for let's say 2 hours. If you take a nap, you're ruining your sleep pattern. Ask your doctor.

Once again, save yourself from alot of trouble and stay away from pills. Visit a doctor, and try to find a natural way to get tired. There are many, which one works the best for you, you can find out together with a doctor.

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01-19-2010, 12:02 PM

Hard to say without knowing more but the usual things are good to try.

Take melatonin
Don't drink alcohol
Lose weight
Exercise more
Cut out all sugar and caffeine

If you did all that or even most of it I'm sure it would help.
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01-19-2010, 02:56 PM

I agree, try to look for reasons that caused the insomnia. Your body nor your brains just randomly says "Hey, let's go in insomnia mode". There is definitely something that is causing it, try to find out the source, and work on it.

Once more, don't grab to pills

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01-19-2010, 03:25 PM

I do the "Heath Ledger" if you will. Puts me to bed every night.
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01-19-2010, 03:32 PM

I tried the melatonin but doesn't work for me,I get maybe 4 hours per night .I want to avoid the sleeping pills

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01-19-2010, 04:18 PM

I recently just made my room more sleep friendly. Here are some practical tips, they've helped me.

1) Clean, Vacuum, and Dust! No brainer that better quality air = better quality sleep.
2) Run an air filter in the background, and keep the bedroom door closed at all times. Again better quality air. As a bonus the constant dull sound of the air filter also helps me. The dull sound can drown out other noises.
3) Buy some scented lavender fragrances. Right now I'm using lavender oil with the scent sticks, and these scented lavender beads. Lavender, many, many people claim, helps induce sleep.
4) Make your room pitch black! Cover all LED lights, black out those windows, etc.
5) Buy a new bed set that (sub)consciously makes you think sleep that is super comfortable. Nothing bright and wild. This is excessive for some, but I just spent a thousand dollars brand new Hotel bedding. But it's great!
6) Have the mindset that the bedroom is only for sleep and sex, and stick to it! Again, playing mind games on yourself can be quite beneficial.

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01-19-2010, 04:22 PM

Herbal tea, reading and so on... no pills.

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01-19-2010, 05:08 PM

i'm in great shape, eat very well, and exericise every single day (snowboarding in the winter, downhill biking and hiking in the summer) i live in a mountain resort. going to try the tea, a little skeptical though...

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01-19-2010, 05:13 PM

I am sure you have already tried Melatonine tablets but try if not - works great for me. (and I used to have all of your problems long ago)
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01-19-2010, 05:22 PM

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01-19-2010, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by Spunky

I tried the melatonin but doesn't work for me,I get maybe 4 hours per night .I want to avoid the sleeping pills

Over the counter melatonin only goes upto 8 mg, but from a doctor you can get it upto 150 mg. Thats good to put you back on a schedule, but I don't have a regular schedule so I'm kinda fucked. I have 75 mg ones now, and may try the 150 next doctor visit.

Good Luck quiet ....This is something I live with myself

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01-19-2010, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by Big Red Machine

Over the counter melatonin only goes upto 8 mg, but from a doctor you can get it upto 150 mg. Thats good to put you back on a schedule, but I don't have a regular schedule so I'm kinda fucked. I have 75 mg ones now, and may try the 150 next doctor visit.

Good Luck quiet ....This is something I live with myself

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01-19-2010, 06:26 PM

Don't do sleeping pills! If you have had bad insomnia for years, they will not help you. They are just a temporary solution. If you try to stop taking them, you will have even worse sleep patterns. Good luck

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01-19-2010, 06:27 PM

i just come from bed cant close my eyes
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01-19-2010, 06:37 PM

i drink a 12 pack of red bull about 15 minutes before bed time...

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01-19-2010, 07:29 PM

if you drink a lot of caffeine that can throw your sleep off, and alcohol will do it too.

melatonin will give you wild dreams but does knock you out. I had to lay off that stuff years ago from the weird dreams.

I have found the more chemicals you take in it will just screw your natural body clock up more.
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01-19-2010, 07:31 PM

For as active as you sound, if you're not sleeping then you may have a bona fide sleep disorder.

I did the Ambien thing for while ... gave up because a night's sleep on Ambien sometimes become 12+ hours and NOTHING woke up me.

Now I just deal with it.

If my schedule gets too far off (it always does), I'll just do a 36 or 48 hour day and get it back on track.
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01-19-2010, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by Big Red Machine

Over the counter melatonin only goes upto 8 mg, but from a doctor you can get it upto 150 mg. Thats good to put you back on a schedule, but I don't have a regular schedule so I'm kinda fucked. I have 75 mg ones now, and may try the 150 next doctor visit.

Good Luck quiet ....This is something I live with myself

All I have is the 3MG ones and tried 3 at a time.didn't do much,I'll hit up the doc and get some of those bad boys

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01-19-2010, 07:36 PM

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01-19-2010, 07:42 PM

Does not sleeping affect you otherwise? Does it affect your work?

If not, don't worry about it, if it does sleeping pills will work but I always feel shittier the next day than I would if I hadn't slept.

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01-19-2010, 08:43 PM

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