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  • arock10
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2006
    • 6217

    #1

    zombaio versus ccbill

    Hey ladies,
    I am in the process of setting up my first small paysite and I was originally planning on going with ccbill as that appears to be the basic starting place for new paysite owners for processing. But as you probably know, ccbill charges 14.5% and a $750 visa fee, while Zombaio appears to be a fuckin deal at 4.9% and no fee. Should I go with ccbill still or try Zombaio? I know Zombaio is pretty new to adult, but I see them on a lot of sites.

    Let me know your experiences with both and recommendations. k thanks
    Sup
  • C-Luv
    Confirmed User
    • May 2008
    • 3025

    #2
    They are both great company but you should also should try GTBill, we are not new to adult and can offer you a discount rate and no visa fee : )
    C-Luv
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    • NETBilling-Andy
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2002
      • 182

      #3
      Hi arock - I would highly encourage you to speak with myself or one of the other sales reps here at CCBill to discuss what we can offer you. We have options and tools that will more than compensate you for any difference in cost. If it sounds good and makes sense, we can get you all setup. If not - then at least you have the best information to make an informed decision. You can reach me at andy @ ccbill.com. thanks!
      Andrew Kiefer Sales Account Executive / Merchant Relations
      (888) 357-8166 | (661) 252-2456
      ICQ: 685463252 | Skype: andyk9876

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      • seeandsee
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        • Mar 2006
        • 50945

        #4
        zombaio have kicking low fess
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        • kowalsky
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2003
          • 2494

          #5
          I use both. The main difference is of course the rate. CCBILL is very expensive right now, I don´t know why.

          Both work great, but CCBILL have a better technical support. Much faster and professional.
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          • MichaelP
            Registered User
            • Aug 2003
            • 7124

            #6
            I might be wrong but I think Zombaio is a gateway, which means you need to get your user/Pass system, billing pages, etc set up, then Zombaio will process the charges... While CC Bill provides everything....

            I know CC Bill is SOLID!

            I met the guys at Zombaio at Internext and they seams to be very good people, and I know they have been around for a while now...

            Hope this will help
            Last edited by MichaelP; 01-18-2010, 10:25 AM.

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            • AIbenjamink
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2009
              • 420

              #7
              Originally posted by MichaelP
              I might be wrong but I think Zombaio is a gateway, which means you need to get your user/Pass system, billing pages, etc set up, then Zombaio will process the charges... While CC Bill provides everything....

              I know CC Bill is SOLID!

              I met the guys at Zombaio at Internext and they seams to be very good people, and I know they have been around for a while now...

              Hope this will help
              Zombaio offers a full user/pass system, along with a rather advanced API, allowing for token purchases etc..
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              • Zombaio_Tomas
                Confirmed User
                • Nov 2008
                • 382

                #8
                Hi Arock,
                We will gladly help you with your processing needs. We do billing support, password management etc all included in the 4.9%. We are not a gateway, we are a third party processor which means that you do not need your own MID.

                And we have been in processing business for almost 10 years, in adult since 2007

                Read more about our service here:
                https://www.zombaio.com/features.asp
                https://www.zombaio.com/demo.asp
                https://www.zombaio.com/services_card_processing.asp
                https://www.zombaio.com/rates.asp

                I will be back in office next week if you want a direct contact with me, otherwise our sales team will help you at 1.650.215.1190 or sales a.t zombaio.com

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                • DavieVegas
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 6117

                  #9
                  yup! Id love to know as well since I will be doing this as well Good question rock
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                  • fatfoo
                    ICQ:649699063
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 27763

                    #10
                    Originally posted by arock10
                    Hey ladies
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                    • johnuk
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 648

                      #11
                      Originally posted by wallstwizkid70
                      Hi arock - I would highly encourage you to speak with myself or one of the other sales reps here at CCBill to discuss what we can offer you. We have options and tools that will more than compensate you for any difference in cost. If it sounds good and makes sense, we can get you all setup. If not - then at least you have the best information to make an informed decision. You can reach me at andy @ ccbill.com. thanks!
                      Do CCBill offer a gateway service? Have emailed a couple of times but no reply so far.
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                      • NETBilling-Andy
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 182

                        #12
                        Originally posted by johnuk
                        Do CCBill offer a gateway service? Have emailed a couple of times but no reply so far.
                        Can you shoot an email to me directly? Let me know more specifics about what you need and I'll get an answer out to you right away. We do offer direct merchant processing, in addition to our 3rd party billing, but I'm not sure if that's exactly what you're looking for.

                        Thanks!
                        Andrew Kiefer Sales Account Executive / Merchant Relations
                        (888) 357-8166 | (661) 252-2456
                        ICQ: 685463252 | Skype: andyk9876

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                        • digitaldivas
                          ..I Heart Cannibal Corpse
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 4328

                          #13
                          Originally posted by C-Luv
                          They are both great company but you should also should try GTBill, we are not new to adult and can offer you a discount rate and no visa fee : )
                          get on your icq, i have a question
                          ...

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                          • rowan
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Mar 2002
                            • 17393

                            #14
                            Risk vs. reward. You need to choose whether going with the newer kid, at a better rate, is a good idea both in the short and long term.

                            If you're planning on accepting affiliate traffic (and you're not running something like NATS) then ccbill is probably the best choice.

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                            • MrDeiz
                              • May 2008
                              • 9802

                              #15
                              i guess ccbill will be much better
                              it's solid
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                              • C-Luv
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2008
                                • 3025

                                #16
                                Originally posted by digitaldivas
                                get on your icq, i have a question
                                I am on : )
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                                • digitaldivas
                                  ..I Heart Cannibal Corpse
                                  • Sep 2007
                                  • 4328

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by C-Luv
                                  I am on : )
                                  I just phoned you, thanks so much for the info
                                  ...

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                                  • digitaldivas
                                    ..I Heart Cannibal Corpse
                                    • Sep 2007
                                    • 4328

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by daizzzy
                                    i guess ccbill will be much better
                                    it's solid
                                    Yes, CCBill has been good to me in the 8 years I have had them I will vouch for the team over there.
                                    ...

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                                    • longdongsilver
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2003
                                      • 378

                                      #19
                                      Depends on what ccbill can offer you i guess, if you're processing a good few K per month then 4.9% is going to put a lot more cash in your pocket. I've heard a few people are moving over to zombaio or putting them first in their cascade.

                                      I think the longer zombaio are around the lower ccbill's rates will become.

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                                      • MrDeiz
                                        • May 2008
                                        • 9802

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by longdongsilver
                                        Depends on what ccbill can offer you i guess, if you're processing a good few K per month then 4.9% is going to put a lot more cash in your pocket. I've heard a few people are moving over to zombaio or putting them first in their cascade.

                                        I think the longer zombaio are around the lower ccbill's rates will become.
                                        it might be some people already know how long exactly


















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                                        • Barefootsies
                                          Choice is an Illusion
                                          • Feb 2005
                                          • 42635

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by MichaelP
                                          I might be wrong but I think Zombaio is a gateway, which means you need to get your user/Pass system, billing pages, etc set up, then Zombaio will process the charges... While CC Bill provides everything....
                                          That would be incorrect.
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                                          • NetHorse
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Dec 2006
                                            • 3526

                                            #22
                                            Well as an affiliate I like the CCbill tracking a lot better. Seriously, the Zombaio just shows overall raw hits that's it, no unique hits, no tracking from specific URLs, no daily stats.

                                            No experience as a paysite owner but in that respect they both seem like great processors.
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                                            • StaceyJo
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                                              • Mar 2008
                                              • 8960

                                              #23
                                              I think both have good services to every one of us.
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                                              • MichaelP
                                                Registered User
                                                • Aug 2003
                                                • 7124

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by AIbenjamink
                                                Zombaio offers a full user/pass system, along with a rather advanced API, allowing for token purchases etc..
                                                Thank you for the clarification

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                                                • Nicky
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                  • 30071

                                                  #25
                                                  If It's just a small site you will be promoting your self go with Zombaio, if you want to have affiliates go CCBill.

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                                                  • PXN
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jun 2008
                                                    • 1548

                                                    #26
                                                    If you are using NATS I think it would be wise to go with Zombaio since you just started. Their low fees make up for the smaller initial sales you'll be making.

                                                    Although CCBill is very reliable, I don't like their high fee and I think their software is outdated. I don't mind paying the higher fee if they had better tools. They had a chance to rule the porn processing biz with an iron fist if they had keep improving their crappy and often-time slow loading webmaster and affiliate script. Even Epoch was smart enough to update their software to MPA3 and epochpays program. I think most people don't mind the higher fee if they can offer better script.

                                                    With NATS already being out, people do not have to rely on CCBill for the software anymore. As far as I know a lot of program using NATS generally favor Zombaio as their primary like CatchyCash.

                                                    The future of porn processor is not only going to be on the battle of fees anymore, it also going to be on the battle of who provide the best tools. Even less know processor like GT-Bill can generate a lot of buz if they have some great tools to offer. If Zombaio reading this, I know they can trump CCBill if they offer a more superior tool.
                                                    Last edited by PXN; 01-19-2010, 05:57 AM. Reason: add stuff

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                                                    • C-Luv
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • May 2008
                                                      • 3025

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by PXN
                                                      If you are using NATS I think it would be wise to go with Zombaio since you just started. Their low fees make up for the smaller initial sales you'll be making.

                                                      Although CCBill is very reliable, I don't like their high fee and I think their software is outdated. I don't mind paying the higher fee if they had better tools. They had a chance to rule the porn processing biz with an iron fist if they had keep improving their crappy and often-time slow loading webmaster and affiliate script. Even Epoch was smart enough to update their software to MPA3 and epochpays program. I think most people don't mind the higher fee if they can offer better script.

                                                      With NATS already being out, people do not have to rely on CCBill for the software anymore. As far as I know a lot of program using NATS generally favor Zombaio as their primary like CatchyCash.

                                                      The future of porn processor is not only going to be on the battle of fees anymore, it also going to be on the battle of who provide the best tools. Even less know processor like GT-Bill can generate a lot of buz if they have some great tools to offer. If Zombaio reading this, I know they can trump CCBill if they offer a more superior tool.
                                                      Originally posted by PXN
                                                      Even less know processor like GT-Bill can generate a lot of buz if they have some great tools to offer
                                                      I really like what you have to say.... you make some great points. GTBill has gone back and forth to see if we want to launch an affiliate program like CCbill or Zombaio. As we discussed this we came to the concussion that our main focus is payment processing not affiliate programs / management. We decided to partner up with Nat's and offer their solutions.

                                                      GTBill has really step up and made many processing tools available for our merchants. We also offer a free whitelabel gateway! Our merchant also love our whitelabel payment pages example: www.hotspoon.com and our E-wallet services (very similar to epass).

                                                      We are always going to be able to offer discount payment processing as that is our focus!
                                                      C-Luv
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                                                      • PXN
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jun 2008
                                                        • 1548

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by C-Luv
                                                        I really like what you have to say.... you make some great points. GTBill has gone back and forth to see if we want to launch an affiliate program like CCbill or Zombaio. As we discussed this we came to the concussion that our main focus is payment processing not affiliate programs / management. We decided to partner up with Nat's and offer their solutions.

                                                        GTBill has really step up and made many processing tools available for our merchants. We also offer a free whitelabel gateway! Our merchant also love our whitelabel payment pages example: www.hotspoon.com and our E-wallet services (very similar to epass).

                                                        We are always going to be able to offer discount payment processing as that is our focus!
                                                        I did not know you have a WL gateway and it looks cool . These kind of things can attract some webmaster like myself. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "We decided to partner up with Nat's and offer their solutions"? Are you saying if people sign up with you, you will pay the cost for NATS for them or do you mean our processor works with NATS but you'll have to pay for the script?

                                                        I don't mean to imply in my last response that processor should also do affiliate management. What I meant was if you are going to give your client the tool then you should give them something that would allow them to succeed; because their success is YOUR success. That mean giving them the best tools out there to compete with their competitors. I think the very reason why other processors than CCBill still exist is not only because they are needed for secondary and backup processing, but because webmaster are frustrated with CCBill tools. I don't even think many cc processors would be doing adult and NATS would not have been that successful if CCBill already offer a superior tool like it because if they did, I can just do all my shopping at CCBill and forget the rest. People don't just look at the price tag when they buy things. They want the quality out of it and people are willing to paid more if they could get that quality - as in this case better tools is way more important than the quality of cc processing. I don't really care if your processor is best or the most reliable, what's the whole point if I wasn't given the best tool (better tracking, better stats, saving time, faster loading, etc) to make a sale in the first place. Only when I have the tools to make sales should the quality of cc processing matters.

                                                        I truly apologize to CCBill if they think I'm being too harsh on them but that isn't my intention. It's reality. I just hope they they at least read it and consider changes to their system as they do indeed have a large affiliate-base members. Maybe they should hire me to take them to the next level (j/k). Processor like Zomb, GT, etc. and NATS should feel at least lucky that CCBill didn't think outside the box and focus way too much on their cc processing side of the biz than their affiliate management side because if they did that in the first place many cc company will not be doing adult today.

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                                                        • DavieVegas
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                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                          • 6117

                                                          #29
                                                          bump.......
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                                                          • MrWho
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                                                            • Mar 2010
                                                            • 185

                                                            #30
                                                            I was just starting to write a post on some questions about Zambaio, but a few are answered already here.

                                                            So I like to ask some things maybe interesting for your other guys:
                                                            - is there an option to avoid chargeback fees/ are they realy up to $100 ??!
                                                            - when will be debit and mobile payment available?
                                                            - whats about detailed stats? no stats = no trusted and effective business!
                                                            - is the additional rate for subaccounts cumulative, so you have to pay for every single one?
                                                            - are there any good affiliate scripts for programm owners out there (beside script5)?

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                                                            • MrDeiz
                                                              • May 2008
                                                              • 9802

                                                              #31
                                                              ccbill works very weird lately. so you'd better try zombaio as an option for sure.
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                                                              • Princess Ellisa
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                • 1883

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by PXN
                                                                I don't mind paying the higher fee if they had better tools. They had a chance to rule the porn processing biz with an iron fist if they had keep improving their crappy and often-time slow loading webmaster and affiliate script.
                                                                I am obviously a fan of CCBill as we created CCBTools to go along side of it. If it is tools you are looking for please get in touch with us as we have a great software and the support to go with it which all of our clients will attest to.

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                                                                • Vendzilla
                                                                  Biker Gnome
                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                  • 23200

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Nats is having a killer deal this month, free Ipad
                                                                  Get NATS and Zombaio, seems like a good match, then your affiliates have everything they need
                                                                  Then you can help your budget by getting the Ipad for free and making sure your site loks good on it!
                                                                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                  think about that

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                                                                  • MrWho
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                                                                    • Mar 2010
                                                                    • 185

                                                                    #34
                                                                    A bump for a few questions mentioned above.
                                                                    Maybe Tomas can answer them?

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                                                                    • Centurion
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                      • 6033

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Zombaio_Tomas
                                                                      Hi Arock,
                                                                      We will gladly help you with your processing needs. We do billing support, password management etc all included in the 4.9%. We are not a gateway, we are a third party processor which means that you do not need your own MID.

                                                                      And we have been in processing business for almost 10 years, in adult since 2007

                                                                      Read more about our service here:
                                                                      https://www.zombaio.com/features.asp
                                                                      https://www.zombaio.com/demo.asp
                                                                      https://www.zombaio.com/services_card_processing.asp
                                                                      https://www.zombaio.com/rates.asp

                                                                      I will be back in office next week if you want a direct contact with me, otherwise our sales team will help you at 1.650.215.1190 or sales a.t zombaio.com

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                                                                      • Sausage
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                        • 3012

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Been using Zombiao now for almost a year for 2 webmaster programs and am really impressed. Payments always on time and the low fees have really increased our bottom line.

                                                                        CCbill are good for their affiliate backend, but if you are using something like nats then zombiao all the way. Also think zombiao is starting up a ccbill like affiliate backend too so that base might be covered.
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                                                                        • Cyandin
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                                                                          • Aug 2008
                                                                          • 1723

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Wow, this thread kicks ass. Not many retards blathering, and I just doubled my knowledge (you can tell how much I knew before this post) about how billing companies work and compete.

                                                                          Thanks all!

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                                                                          • MrWho
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Mar 2010
                                                                            • 185

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Just want to give a bump.

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                                                                            • ack
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                              • 163

                                                                              #39
                                                                              why would anyone choose some new guy zombaio over ccbill, processors go out of bizness all the time, plus zombaio join pages aren't attractive at all

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                                                                              • candyflip
                                                                                Carpe Visio
                                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                                • 43069

                                                                                #40
                                                                                I am using Zombaio and then CCBill in cascade for my new project. CCBill is going to be taking a back seat from this point out.

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                                                                                • MrWho
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Mar 2010
                                                                                  • 185

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  yeah, but is there any info WHEN will there be debit payment for the europeans by zambaio? most there don't have or don't wan't to use credit cards for online payment.
                                                                                  beyond a daubt CCBill is still the best all-in-one solution out there, but if i can bill also my customers from europe with zambaio, i would prefer them.
                                                                                  seperate billing processors doing the shit makes no sense for me.

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                                                                                  • TrainWreckContent
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Dec 2008
                                                                                    • 8152

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    very good post i am also in the process of setting up my first site so the info here really helps....

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                                                                                    • 2MuchMark
                                                                                      Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                      • 50969

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by arock10
                                                                                      Hey ladies,
                                                                                      I am in the process of setting up my first small paysite and I was originally planning on going with ccbill as that appears to be the basic starting place for new paysite owners for processing. But as you probably know, ccbill charges 14.5% and a $750 visa fee, while Zombaio appears to be a fuckin deal at 4.9% and no fee. Should I go with ccbill still or try Zombaio? I know Zombaio is pretty new to adult, but I see them on a lot of sites.

                                                                                      Let me know your experiences with both and recommendations. k thanks

                                                                                      Hi Arock,

                                                                                      We have been working with CCBill forever and have only good things to say about that. We have also been using SEGPAY since September and they are EXCELLENT. Have met people from both at trade shows and both go out of their way to help.

                                                                                      We have never worked with Zombaio but have heard only good things about them so far.

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                                                                                      • MrWho
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Mar 2010
                                                                                        • 185

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by MrWho
                                                                                        I was just starting to write a post on some questions about Zambaio, but a few are answered already here.

                                                                                        So I like to ask some things maybe interesting for your other guys:
                                                                                        - is there an option to avoid chargeback fees/ are they realy up to $100 ??!
                                                                                        - when will be debit and mobile payment available?
                                                                                        - whats about detailed stats? no stats = no trusted and effective business!
                                                                                        - is the additional rate for subaccounts cumulative, so you have to pay for every single one?
                                                                                        - are there any good affiliate scripts for programm owners out there (beside script5)?
                                                                                        bump for it

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