Anyone watching Al Jazeera's coverage of Haiti?
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Ain't that the truth.
We had just the opposite experience in Bogotá, Colombia a few years ago when one of my male talent lost his passport (he claimed the maid stole it). We went to the Embassy and they were closed! We told the soldier at the gate we were leaving the country in a day and needed to get a emergency passport. To our surprise he let us in and found someone to hook it up. I was very impressed and pretty happy knowing they actually took care of us like that.
Nothing but good experiences with the US Embassy in Thailand as well.
To hear of an Embassy not helping an American in a time of need really rubs me the wrong way. That's what they are there for. It's sad really.Comment
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So, in which of those countries had they just suffered a catastrophe like Haiti did? Right. None of them.
Ain't that the truth.
We had just the opposite experience in Bogotá, Colombia a few years ago when one of my male talent lost his passport (he claimed the maid stole it). We went to the Embassy and they were closed! We told the soldier at the gate we were leaving the country in a day and needed to get a emergency passport. To our surprise he let us in and found someone to hook it up. I was very impressed and pretty happy knowing they actually took care of us like that.
Nothing but good experiences with the US Embassy in Thailand as well.
To hear of an Embassy not helping an American in a time of need really rubs me the wrong way. That's what they are there for. It's sad really.
It is not going to be "normal" there for a while. Turn off your anti-Americanism long enough to re-read those complaints, then try using some logic.
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Fuck me. That last part about the Haitians trying to get them to shoot them is disturbing.they pretty much would ingore us in our humvee's and just run around killing each other over bags of rice.
i watched a guy hand a bag of rice to anouther, shake his hand and then pull out a pistol and shoot him in the head pick up the rice and run.
i saw handicapped in wheel chairs just being shot killed and over turned in the streets into the burn piles. people running around with home made weapons wacking each other. the ones with guns would pretend to be police, steal the uniforms and such, until we would leave the area and then they would just kill everyone around and loot whatever they could. so we then had to just start taking all the weapons from them since no one could be trusted.
hundreds of dogs eating the bodies, along with other animals like giant pigs eating whatever they could, at first we just let them eat the bodies, then we given orders to kill them to try and contain some of the diease.
some of the haitians would try to get us to shoot them, just so they didnt have to kill themselves.Comment
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On one hand I agree with you. Lives are at state. However, on the other hand, as US citizens we should get priority over Haitians, be it dead US citizens or alive. It wouldn't be difficult to put the bodies of the dead US citizens on an out-bound plane. One is leaving every 20 minutes or so.
American troops and American relief should be there to FIRST assist Americans. Then tend to the Haitians second. Let the UN and other global organizations take care of the Haitians right now.
I was simply saying I had great experiences at Embassies.
I'm not trying to be anti-American on this. I'm speaking as an American who lives abroad, there are certain things that the US gov must do to protect their citizens. Putting a Haitian before MY needs, be they personal or for the care of my dead relative, would make me LIVID. The current situation has nothing to do with it. Americans come first when it comes to help FROM America.
It's unfortunate there are Haitians trapped in buildings and so many are dead. My heart goes out to them. Though the USA has a responsibility to its people first. That is the point I'm trying to make, and hearing from people who are there or just back, and reading the opposite is happening, it pisses me off.
During the Asian tsunami, American aid FIRST took care of Americans, then turned to everyone else. That is the way it is supposed to be.Comment
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Bringing in war ships and controlling the port are two different things.
I personally don't care who's running the airport. I'm not there, don't know anyone there, didn't make any babies there, don't care who controls the country when it's all over. I'm just posting news that is out there opposite to what is playing on US TV. There is another side to the story, that's all.
Common sense would say the Haitians would control the airport as they always have. Or the UN. Though, handing it over to the US Military is a little odd I must agree, even given the current circumstances. The US Military has a bad habit of not giving control back once they take it.Comment
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The vast majority of U.S. troops sent to Haiti are on a Aircraft Carrier in the destroyed harbour. This was done to take some of the burden off of the destroyed airport. Most of the U.S. troops on the ground are there to relieve the overburdened U.N. troops who were already there.
Al Jazeera can call it an invasion or whatever else they want but until they send some help themselves they should really just shut the fuck up.Comment
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Dude, that is like asking CNN to send help. They are a news network. What exactly do you suggest they do?The vast majority of U.S. troops sent to Haiti are on a Aircraft Carrier in the destroyed harbour. This was done to take some of the burden off of the destroyed airport. Most of the U.S. troops on the ground are there to relieve the overburdened U.N. troops who were already there.
Al Jazeera can call it an invasion or whatever else they want but until they send some help themselves they should really just shut the fuck up.Comment
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This is probably one of the biggest problems I have with our government and why the world view of the US is not overwhelming positive.
We have active bases and military presence in a large number of countries. How many foreign bases or foreign military presence do you think is on US Soil?
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I don't see the problem here. If you don't think the US is providing manpower, resources, charity and incredible help to the poor people of Haiti right now, then you are a fucking retard.
The US has a much better chance of helping to rebuild Haiti, than it has to fixing Afghanistan.
Haiti would be LUCKY if the US chooses to set up a permanent presence there. May be the best thing that could ever happen for them.Last edited by BFT3K; 01-17-2010, 09:09 AM.Comment
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Huh?The vast majority of U.S. troops sent to Haiti are on a Aircraft Carrier in the destroyed harbour. This was done to take some of the burden off of the destroyed airport. Most of the U.S. troops on the ground are there to relieve the overburdened U.N. troops who were already there.
Al Jazeera can call it an invasion or whatever else they want but until they send some help themselves they should really just shut the fuck up.
They are just reporting the news man.
BTW, the US troops are there for security.
ZERO.This is probably one of the biggest problems I have with our government and why the world view of the US is not overwhelming positive.
We have active bases and military presence in a large number of countries. How many foreign bases or foreign military presence do you think is on US Soil?
Anyone?
It would be an act of war if anyone even thought about putting a base on US soil OR set up shop in Mexico or one of the close Caribbean islands. Lets say Russia wanted to set up a base on Cuba, the very country we also have a base, we would without question go to war with them, as we almost did during the Bay Of Pigs nonsense. Can you imagine if Venezuela put a base in Tijuana, Mexico? It would be FARGIN WAR!!!
I'm American so it's sometimes not easy to call out my own people, but since I've lived abroad and been able to mix with an international community, as well as watch international news, my eyes have been opened and I'm a bit embarrassed at some of the shit we do. Global domination is what it is.Comment
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Of course they are helping them. And of course they will create a permanent presence there and probably a new detention center along with it.I don't see the problem here. If you don't think the US is providing manpower, resources, charity and incredible help to the poor people of Haiti right now, then you are a fucking retard.
The US has a much better chance of helping to rebuild Haiti, than it has to fixing Afghanistan.
Haiti would be LUCKY if the US chooses to set up a permanent presence there. May be the best thing that could ever happen for them.
Bill Clinton will be the best thing to happen to Haiti. He's been pushing HARD for foreign investment. If they can get some order to the place and clean it up, it could be a HUGE tourist destination, as well as a base and access to new natural resources.
And yea, Afghanistan is FUCKED.
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