I'm just saying that it doesn't always work out like a fairytale. I'm sure these two were not the only fuck-ups who tried swining and failed. I think in a lot of cases one person wants it more than the other and the other feels obligated to go along with it because if they don't, well more than likely if they can't swing sooner or later they will cheat.

It seems to me that every single person who has tried to tell us that this is going to happen or that... is JEALOUS!

We have a fucking amazing relationship and we will be together for the rest of our lives... We know this and am happy... All you guys who are trying to bring us down and ruin what could have been a nice thread, obviously don't have or have never had it as good as we have it.

Dave and I talk to each other about EVERYTHING! Communication is the key to any relationship. We know how to work together in every aspect of our lives.

There is nothing anyone here can say that will make us think or feel any differently.

Jealousy will get you nowhere!

Have you got any real experience of your own or are you just going by things you've heard? I can honestly say you're wrong. MOST would NOT go along with it. Which is why, while three in a bed is the top fantasy for most men, MOST men will never get a chance. Because most girlfriends will say no. I'm basing my facts on first hand knowledge and experience :)

You can't use other people's history to think 'that's the way it's gonna be' with someone else. Every single person is different.

Neither of us ever need to cheat... We both get all we want out of what we're doing!

People predicting the future of random people's relationships or experiences based on people in the past, may as well use the past lottery results to predict the jackpot for the coming week! :D It's utterly unrelated. :) Statistics are soooo flawed in that sense :)

Agreeeeeeeeeeeed! :D

Going to go have a shower now! x

well im glad you guys are happy.. you are living the dream man.. id kill for a gf/wife who lets us fuck other girls.. all the girls ive met so far are too insecure for this shit..

but the problem is i get bored/tired of fucking the same gf.. she doesnt understand that by INVITING other girls, i'll never get tired, cuz its like i get to keep my gf, but fuck other girls.. win win for me.lol

My husband and I have been in the "swinging scene" together for over a decade... we have an open relationship as well.. and we are happy as all get out, it certainly doesn't cause problems for us. Communication, honesty, trust, self-confidence. When you have those things, it's much more possible to have this kind of relationship and be successful. Goodness knows it hasn't negatively impacted our sexual life together... we still skronk like bunnies.. probably moreso with the extra influx of sexual energy from our encounters with others.

Well all relationships are work. It's when people STOP working on relationships that they fall apart and turn to shit. I think most people just get lazy after a few years and comfortable and forget that there's effort involved. A true committment requires some work though. Nice to hear you're doing well, quiet :)

Excellent and although we're not in an open relationship in the same way ... it's the same principal.

I don't think just because you have an open relationship that you're gonna split or argue over it ... and I don't think just because we're in just softswing style situation that we're going to want to move to open. People have to judge and assign some kind of rule to these things. Those people don't get it because they're not lucky enough to GET IT! lol

Well I think a lot of lifestyle relationships break up because the people are in it for the wrong reasons. I call them "seekers".... they aren't fufilled in their relationship so they are seeking more to make them complete. If they are already complete in their relationship, and the rest is just fun and gravy with the focus being on their relationship as #1, it helps them stay together and stay focused. It's when people get carried away and lose sight of their prioroties that it causes major trouble.

First time I read the title I read it as sewing and was trying to figure out why they had a scene at all

For sure.. Well see for us it works out because it's harder to find chemistry between couples than it is singles.. but that doesn't mean we don't rock the couples. You gotta do what you're comfortable with together, and there has to be a dialogue. As long as the communication is open and honest, and nobody is playing games, hiding secrets, or whatever, anything can be worked out. If the focus is on the relationship with your mate, that's when things go well. If I were to ask hubby not to see someone or vice versa, that would be the end of it, no questions asked, no arguing.... The mate always comes FIRST!

That's assuming that the girl in question is that dishonest. There ARE some truthful women out there, as hard as that is to believe :P

You're right. And that's the same with us. There's been girls Perrie liked and wanted and I've said no to ... and vice versa. And it's not a "No you can't have her" ... it's a "Hmm, she's not my type" or "I'm not feeling like I wanna do it tonight"

Easy enough to say "ok, no worries!" It really isn't that big a deal to either of us. It's also not a life ruling choice. it's a lifestyle choice. In other words, if you decide not to do it for a while, like we did two years ago ... you don't. If you wanna pick back up, you do! I personally only enjoy it because I'm doing it with Perrie. I've slept with enough women to know that she's by far the best I've ever had. So many people here seem to have shitty relationships or none at all and don't like the idea that some people are happy and will be forever! lol.

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here is the million dollar question, where do you find that 3rd girl? my girl and i have talked about his for a long time, but thats the hitch, how do you find a girl thats willing to participate in a 3some?

We found a few through MySpace... Facebook threesome groups... Also swinging sites like swingingheaven etc! :)

I have found plentlyoffish.com to be a useful tool ;)

As long as you approach with a very clear and polite message, you'll be surprised how many girls are actually into the idea ...

We had tons of responses the first time we tried ... and we had much funtimes from them too.

You can do it once, or many times. One girl we just couldnt' stop going back to we ended up having fun with probably in the region of 50 times. We literally fucked her 5 or 6 times a week and she ended up staying round our house SOOOO much of the time ... pretty much live in fuck buddy. lol

That's over with now but dayam ... it was good ... we hung out and stuff inbetween fucking too ... Some girls you just fuck. Some you have fun with outside of the sex too.