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  • DavieVegas
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2004
    • 6117

    #1

    Zambaio Compared TO CCBILL? Pros & Cons

    I just saw ccbill having to raise prices because of visa etc. With Zambaio's lower prices on everything, why have people not switched? I do not know much about zambaioother then what they tell you on the website. But is it hard to switch if you use ccbill money wise? Example is if you switch, you lose all your income/rebills? Is Zambaio good for people who are just starting off in the paysite world? Just want to know opinions and facts if you have any.
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  • BillyHoe
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    • Mar 2003
    • 2214

    #2
    Where did you see CCBill raised prices cause of Visa?

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    • After Shock Media
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      • Mar 2001
      • 35299

      #3
      Originally posted by BillyHoe
      Where did you see CCBill raised prices cause of Visa?
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      • fuzebox
        making it rain
        • Oct 2003
        • 22352

        #4
        I just signed up with Zombaio to check it out a few days ago, and I am extremely impressed with the backend... Slickest interface I've ever seen with a processor in adult or mainstream.

        I have friends who have been using them for a year with no problems, quick wires and low fees as promised.

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        • teenfeetcash
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2007
          • 527

          #5
          We were declined because we have the word "teen" in our url. their suggestion was to change domain names.

          Mmmmm let me think, a 5 year old aged domain or a new one?
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          • candyflip
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            • Jul 2002
            • 43069

            #6
            I'm going to be checking them out a bit more in the next few weeks.

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            • BFT3K
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Dec 2005
              • 10764

              #7
              Originally posted by BillyHoe
              Where did you see CCBill raised prices cause of Visa?
              http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=946127

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              • AlphaSky
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2008
                • 1013

                #8
                Paranoia is the main reason why Zombaio isn't #1. Affiliates are too afraid to switch over in fear that one day Zombaio will close shop and they won't pay out the last month's checks.

                Totally understandable, what with all the bad processors running around ripping people off.

                We think Zombaio is great. We use them as our 2nd biller. 4.9% fees!!! Dam, I wish one day the affiliates would lose their fear of Z and switch over to them.
                Last edited by AlphaSky; 01-01-2010, 03:46 PM.

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                • NaughtyRob
                  Two fresh affiliate progs
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 29602

                  #9
                  By ccbill or zombaio?

                  Originally posted by teenfeetcash
                  We were declined because we have the word "teen" in our url. their suggestion was to change domain names.

                  Mmmmm let me think, a 5 year old aged domain or a new one?
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                  • mmcfadden
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 5099

                    #10
                    Originally posted by fuzebox
                    I just signed up with Zombaio to check it out a few days ago, and I am extremely impressed with the backend... Slickest interface I've ever seen with a processor in adult or mainstream.

                    I have friends who have been using them for a year with no problems, quick wires and low fees as promised.
                    I signed up and stopped when the VISA fee was required. I still may go with them but wanted to test them out first with the other CC's. So, that being said, I guess I need to fork them the cash but can you tell me a couple things about them?

                    1) How long have they processed?
                    2) Are there previous problems with owner's receiving money?
                    3) I was confused when they recommended wire transfers for payment for ease but said checks were cheaper but less reliable. Are there any problems with receiving checks? Then, and this is from recollection during signing up, receiving checks in another part of the signup stated it was more expensive. I was confused and just decided to can the process there.

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                    • Sly
                      Let's do some business!
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 31376

                      #11
                      I don't think I would join any affiliate program that would drop CC Bill and go to Zambaio over a $500 yearly fee. I work pretty hard for my traffic and I spend a lot of money developing it. If an affiliate program is not willing to do the same, frankly they can count me out.

                      Now if you want to check out Zambaio simply because they are a new provider with good rates... sure, why not.
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                      • NaughtyRob
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                        • Nov 2004
                        • 29602

                        #12
                        What you guys all forget about the new $500 renewal fee is that it was $350 already, its only a $150 increase per year.
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                        • mmcfadden
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 5099

                          #13
                          Originally posted by GetNaughty
                          What you guys all forget about the new $500 renewal fee is that it was $350 already, its only a $150 increase per year.
                          I don't think that's it. It's the 15% people are paying and there is a processor claiming to take way less. Those percents add up.

                          At least for me I just want to test them out for a secondary option because I have a shitload of failed transactions. Then possibly make them a first pay option but really want to know some history and testimonials.

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                          • Sly
                            Let's do some business!
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 31376

                            #14
                            Originally posted by mmcfadden
                            I don't think that's it. It's the 15% people are paying and there is a processor claiming to take way less. Those percents add up.

                            At least for me I just want to test them out for a secondary option because I have a shitload of failed transactions. Then possibly make them a first pay option but really want to know some history and testimonials.
                            You could also look into getting your own merchant account. Definitely set up a secondary.
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                            • Vendzilla
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                              • Mar 2004
                              • 23200

                              #15
                              If you do a search in GFY for them, I didn't find anything negative about them about a month ago when I looked
                              Because the lower % they charge, it's more for you and more for the affiliates
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                              • AmeliaG
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 10663

                                #16
                                I have accounts with both and intend to keep accounts with both. I think it is a good idea to have multiple processor accounts at all times and Zombaio makes it easy to add them but, of course, I'll always want to keep my rebills. CCBill currently has a more robust affiliate system, but Zombaio has far better rates to run on non-affiliate tours or if you use NATS or MPA3. Zombaio has a beautiful interface, far far far better than Epoch or CCBill. I've had some difficulties with the fees on Zombaio's wires. The wire issues may be JP Morgan Chase's fault, but it's been a bit of a time-waster for me, trying to fix it.
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                                • Grisey
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2004
                                  • 1805

                                  #17
                                  With www.script5.com you can set up an zombaio affiliate programme and offer the same/more amount of tools as ccbill programmes
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                                  • Barefootsies
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                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 42635

                                    #18
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                                    • stickyfingerz
                                      Doin fine
                                      • Oct 2005
                                      • 24984

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by mmcfadden
                                      I signed up and stopped when the VISA fee was required. I still may go with them but wanted to test them out first with the other CC's. So, that being said, I guess I need to fork them the cash but can you tell me a couple things about them?

                                      1) How long have they processed?
                                      2) Are there previous problems with owner's receiving money?
                                      3) I was confused when they recommended wire transfers for payment for ease but said checks were cheaper but less reliable. Are there any problems with receiving checks? Then, and this is from recollection during signing up, receiving checks in another part of the signup stated it was more expensive. I was confused and just decided to can the process there.
                                      ccbill or zombaio?

                                      https://www.zombaio.com/faq.asp#11
                                      I see no visa registration fee, why?
                                      You don't have to pay the visa registration fee as we pay that fee for you. It would be nearly impossible fo us to offer our services to small merchants connected to another biller without this offer.

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                                      • mmcfadden
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Oct 2008
                                        • 5099

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by stickyfingerz

                                        fuck this... shady shit. zombaio, I asked to NOT pay the visa fee and do the other CC's and they told me I had to pay it.

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                                        • stickyfingerz
                                          Doin fine
                                          • Oct 2005
                                          • 24984

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by mmcfadden
                                          fuck this... shady shit. zombaio, I asked to NOT pay the visa fee and do the other CC's and they told me I had to pay it.
                                          Thought that was their big selling aspect to the U.S. Starting a second program using Zombaio this year so I had researched them somewhat, thought maybe I had missed something new. lol

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                                          • kmanrox
                                            aka K-Man
                                            • Oct 2001
                                            • 29295

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by DavieVegas
                                            I just saw ccbill having to raise prices because of visa etc. With Zambaio's lower prices on everything, why have people not switched? I do not know much about zambaioother then what they tell you on the website. But is it hard to switch if you use ccbill money wise? Example is if you switch, you lose all your income/rebills? Is Zambaio good for people who are just starting off in the paysite world? Just want to know opinions and facts if you have any.
                                            i think most ppl are still waiting for more info on the solidity of Zombaio before entrusting them with the bulk of their processing...
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                                            • CyberHustler
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                                              • Feb 2006
                                              • 28736

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                              Thought that was their big selling aspect to the U.S. Starting a second program using Zombaio this year so I had researched them somewhat, thought maybe I had missed something new. lol
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                                              • AlphaSky
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2008
                                                • 1013

                                                #24
                                                We've made almost $ 4,000 this year w/Zombaio from ONLY the declines that were sent over from Big Brother.

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                                                • seeandsee
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Barefootsies
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                                                  • fuzebox
                                                    making it rain
                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                    • 22352

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by AlphaSky
                                                    We use them as our 2nd biller. 4.9% fees!!!
                                                    This is a violation of Zombaio's terms of service.

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                                                    • stickyfingerz
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                                                      • Oct 2005
                                                      • 24984

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by CyberHustler
                                                      The bitch in your avatar can get the penis...
                                                      Ill let her know when she wakes up.

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                                                      • stickyfingerz
                                                        Doin fine
                                                        • Oct 2005
                                                        • 24984

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                        This is a violation of Zombaio's terms of service.
                                                        I was thinking that also.

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                                                        • IllTestYourGirls
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                                                          • Feb 2007
                                                          • 14311

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by AlphaSky
                                                          Paranoia is the main reason why Zombaio isn't #1. Affiliates are too afraid to switch over in fear that one day Zombaio will close shop and they won't pay out the last month's checks.

                                                          Totally understandable, what with all the bad processors running around ripping people off.

                                                          We think Zombaio is great. We use them as our 2nd biller. 4.9% fees!!! Dam, I wish one day the affiliates would lose their fear of Z and switch over to them.
                                                          Really? Zombaio pays daily

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                                                          • Les Grossman
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Sep 2009
                                                            • 1012

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by teenfeetcash
                                                            We were declined because we have the word "teen" in our url. their suggestion was to change domain names.

                                                            Mmmmm let me think, a 5 year old aged domain or a new one?
                                                            Who declined you, CCbill or Zambaio?

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                                                            • DavieVegas
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                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                              • 6117

                                                              #31
                                                              Love the info....Keep it coming please...
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                                                              • DavieVegas
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jun 2004
                                                                • 6117

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Les Grossman
                                                                Who declined you, CCbill or Zambaio?
                                                                Ya, id like to know this as well.
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                                                                • MsCheyenne
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Mar 2005
                                                                  • 412

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Sly
                                                                  I don't think I would join any affiliate program that would drop CC Bill and go to Zambaio over a $500 yearly fee. I work pretty hard for my traffic and I spend a lot of money developing it. If an affiliate program is not willing to do the same, frankly they can count me out.

                                                                  Now if you want to check out Zambaio simply because they are a new provider with good rates... sure, why not.
                                                                  I like your logic.

                                                                  Cheyenne

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                                                                  • DavieVegas
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                                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                                    • 6117

                                                                    #34
                                                                    bump for today
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                                                                    • webmasterchecks
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                                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                                      • 1685

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by mmcfadden
                                                                      I don't think that's it. It's the 15% people are paying and there is a processor claiming to take way less. Those percents add up.
                                                                      zambaio has stated on here that if they catch you using them as a secondary processor, they will bump your rate up to 9 point something, and if they catch you doing it repeatedly, they may terminate your account.

                                                                      They charge chargeback fees, $30 to get a check sent out, etc, it would be nice to see a straight up comparison on the 2 to see what the real differences are
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                                                                      • Pics Traffic
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                                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                                        • 3055

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by webmasterchecks
                                                                        zambaio has stated on here that if they catch you using them as a secondary processor, they will bump your rate up to 9 point something, and if they catch you doing it repeatedly, they may terminate your account.

                                                                        They charge chargeback fees, $30 to get a check sent out, etc, it would be nice to see a straight up comparison on the 2 to see what the real differences are
                                                                        are they really? I was about to sign up with them.
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                                                                        • mmcfadden
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Oct 2008
                                                                          • 5099

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Why hasn't zambaio posted here yet?

                                                                          Seems like a good opportunity to set things straight.

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                                                                          • DavieVegas
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                                                                            • Jun 2004
                                                                            • 6117

                                                                            #38
                                                                            I 100% agree mmcfadden
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                                                                            • nekrom
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                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                              • 921

                                                                              #39
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                                                                              • Davy
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                                                                                • Apr 2006
                                                                                • 4323

                                                                                #40
                                                                                So do you have to pay the VISA fee @ Zombaio or not?
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                                                                                • rayadp05
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                                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                                  • 4187

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  I just chatted with a representative over at Zombaio and was told that using them as a secondary processer would be perfectly fine and that the rate would stay at 4.9%. I am going to contact them again and speak with a different representative (just to make sure) since that seems to conflict with what some are saying here.

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                                                                                  • rayadp05
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                                                                                    • Nov 2005
                                                                                    • 4187

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Davy
                                                                                    So do you have to pay the VISA fee @ Zombaio or not?
                                                                                    According to their merchant FAQ, Zombaio pays this fee for you.

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                                                                                    • webmasterchecks
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                                                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                                                      • 1685

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                      I just chatted with a representative over at Zombaio and was told that using them as a secondary processer would be perfectly fine and that the rate would stay at 4.9%.

                                                                                      We herby inform you about the following new clause, effective immediately.

                                                                                      §21) Cascading Terms
                                                                                      The given transaction fee requires Zombaio to have a good rate of successful transactions. If the merchant is using several credit card processors in lead (the first processors declines is sent to the second, and so on) (aka. billing cascade) Zombaio requires being the first processor in your cascade to be able to maintain your given transaction fee.

                                                                                      Failure to comply with this term will lead to a processing fee at 9% without notice. The fee will be restored once Zombaio is first in the cascade again. Several failures may lead to account termination.

                                                                                      Join form set-ups where the cardholder/member can choose which processor to use is not affected by this clause.


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                                                                                      • Zombaio_Tomas
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Nov 2008
                                                                                        • 382

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Hi Guys!
                                                                                        From what I can see there are 2 major questions here:
                                                                                        1. Do we eat the Visa fee?
                                                                                        2. Is cascading allowed.

                                                                                        Ok..

                                                                                        1. Yes and No, we eat it for non-relocated US Merchants. For re-located and non-us merchants there are no visa fee.

                                                                                        2. It is ok to use us as backup and keep the 4.9% if we are not in an automatic billing cascade. If the end user can choose what biller to use, there are no terms violations. But if we are in place 2+ in a cascade we enforce the 9% rate.

                                                                                        Happy new year to you all!

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                                                                                        • stickyfingerz
                                                                                          Doin fine
                                                                                          • Oct 2005
                                                                                          • 24984

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Zombaio_Tomas
                                                                                          Hi Guys!
                                                                                          From what I can see there are 2 major questions here:
                                                                                          1. Do we eat the Visa fee?
                                                                                          2. Is cascading allowed.

                                                                                          Ok..

                                                                                          1. Yes and No, we eat it for non-relocated US Merchants. For re-located and non-us merchants there are no visa fee.

                                                                                          2. It is ok to use us as backup and keep the 4.9% if we are not in an automatic billing cascade. If the end user can choose what biller to use, there are no terms violations. But if we are in place 2+ in a cascade we enforce the 9% rate.

                                                                                          Happy new year to you all!
                                                                                          Will be hitting you up in the next week or so Tom to discuss getting setup with you.

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                                                                                          • Darrell
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                                                            • 803

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Zombaio_Tomas
                                                                                            Hi Guys!
                                                                                            From what I can see there are 2 major questions here:
                                                                                            1. Do we eat the Visa fee?
                                                                                            2. Is cascading allowed.

                                                                                            Ok..

                                                                                            1. Yes and No, we eat it for non-relocated US Merchants. For re-located and non-us merchants there are no visa fee.

                                                                                            2. It is ok to use us as backup and keep the 4.9% if we are not in an automatic billing cascade. If the end user can choose what biller to use, there are no terms violations. But if we are in place 2+ in a cascade we enforce the 9% rate.

                                                                                            Happy new year to you all!
                                                                                            Thanks for the info. A quick question, can a paysite have the word teen in the domain and process with Zombaio?

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                                                                                            • DavieVegas
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                                                              • 6117

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                              Will be hitting you up in the next week or so Tom to discuss getting setup with you.
                                                                                              As will I once im ready to have everything set up.
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                                                                                              • mmcfadden
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Oct 2008
                                                                                                • 5099

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Zombaio_Tomas
                                                                                                Hi Guys!
                                                                                                From what I can see there are 2 major questions here:
                                                                                                1. Do we eat the Visa fee?
                                                                                                2. Is cascading allowed.

                                                                                                Ok..

                                                                                                1. Yes and No, we eat it for non-relocated US Merchants. For re-located and non-us merchants there are no visa fee.

                                                                                                2. It is ok to use us as backup and keep the 4.9% if we are not in an automatic billing cascade. If the end user can choose what biller to use, there are no terms violations. But if we are in place 2+ in a cascade we enforce the 9% rate.

                                                                                                Happy new year to you all!
                                                                                                I was looking into several processors a couple months back.

                                                                                                I am not 100% sure that when I was attempting to sign up an $850 fee was pre-checked on the screen. I can't login because I never proceeded with the account activation and I do not have a current account.

                                                                                                I don't understand your reply #1... Do you charge the visa fee to someone living in NJ? Or are you saying there are no Visa fees for non-US residents? Are you saying US Fees are eaten by your company? The end result being that any webmaster or program using Zombaio does not pay CC fees?

                                                                                                Also, this may sound strange, but is there a difference between a program owner wanting to use you as billing and a merchant?

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                                                                                                • mmcfadden
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Oct 2008
                                                                                                  • 5099

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Also, Can you post your fees?

                                                                                                  Apparently $30 to send a check. A fee for chargebacks...

                                                                                                  In lamens terms...

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                                                                                                  • Les Grossman
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                                                                                                    • Sep 2009
                                                                                                    • 1012

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Zombaio_Tomas

                                                                                                    1. Yes and No, we eat it for non-relocated US Merchants. For re-located and non-us merchants there are no visa fee.
                                                                                                    I don't understand that. In simple English, what does that mean if you are non-relocated?

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