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Old 12-31-2009, 09:39 AM   #1
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Obama is on Trial First non US citizen to become president of the United States!

I am sick and tired of the bullshit! The media puts a wanna be terrorist up on the news to cover up the real news Obama on Trial.....
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WND has reported on dozens of legal challenges to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen." The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

Some of the lawsuits question whether he was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama's American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.

Other challenges have focused on Obama's citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born.

Complicating the situation is Obama's decision to spend sums estimated over $1 million to avoid releasing a state birth certificate that would put to rest the questions.

WND has reported that among the documentation not yet available for Obama includes his kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.

In the U.S. Justice Department's motion to dismiss, attorneys didn't address the concerns directly, but instead focused their efforts on technical procedures, suggesting the matter can't be decided in court and that the dozens of plaintiffs cannot demonstrate they have been injured by having Obama in the Oval Office.

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"It is clear, from the text of the Constitution, and the relevant statutory law implementing the Constitution's textual commitments, that challenges to the qualifications of a candidate for president can, in the first instance, be presented to the voting public before the election, and, once the election is over, can be raised as objections as the electoral votes are counted in the Congress," wrote Assistant U.S. Attorneys Roger West and David DeJute. "Therefore, challenges such as those purportedly raised in this case are committed, under the Constitution, to the electors, and to the Legislative branch."

President Obama's defenders also said they would file a motion seeking to block any discovery of evidence at this point.

Kreep said said his addition to the case probably will mean additional arguments over the president's eligibility.

Among the long list of plaintiffs are former ambassador and presidential candidate Alan Keyes and longshot vice-presidential candidate Gail Lightfoot, both of whom ran in 2008.

Justice officials say because neither had a mathematical chance at winning, they were not directly harmed by the election of Obama.

But among the issues that appear to be looming is a claim that Obama's actual birth certificate from Kenya has emerged.

As WND reported over the holiday weekend, Lucas Smith, the man who tried to sell an alleged Barack Obama Kenyan birth certificate on eBay, filed court papers insisting – under threat of perjury – that the Obama birth certificate in his possession is the genuine article.

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This whole thing is kinda fishy, Obama has spent a lot of money and time steering away from this and I saw the birth certificate that was posted on that website that says he was born in Hawaii. It was a copy dated long after Obamas birth.
The address thats givin for his residence , the people that have been living there for over 52 years dispute that
It will be interesting if this gets to court, but with all the things happening lately I doubt it
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He is NOT a US citizen........................................... ..........The latest terror attack is a great example of THEY steer clear of the real picture. They create lies and smoke screes put the nation on alert to cover it all up.

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A California judge today tentatively scheduled a trial for Jan. 26, 2010, for a case that challenges Barack Obama's eligibility to be president based on questions over his qualifications under the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

If the case actually goes to arguments before U.S. District Judge David Carter, it will be the first time the merits of the dispute have been argued in open court, according to one of the attorneys working on the issue.

In a highly anticipated hearing today before Carter, several motions were heard, including a resolution to long-standing questions about whether attorney Orly Taitz properly served notice on the defendants, which she had.

In a second ruling, Carter ordered that attorney Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation can be added to the case to represent plaintiffs Wiley Drake and Markham Robinson, who had been removed by an earlier court order. Drake, the vice presidential candidate for the American Independent Party, and Robinson, the party's chairman, also were restored to the case.

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But the judge did not immediately rule on Taitz' motion to be granted discovery – that is the right to see the president's still-concealed records. Nor did Carter rule immediately on a motion to dismiss the case, submitted by the U.S. government, following discussion over Taitz' challenge to the work of a magistrate in the case.

The judge did comment that if there are legitimate constitutional questions regarding Obama's eligibility, they need to be addressed and resolved.

Carter ordered a hearing Oct. 5 on the motion to dismiss and ordered arguments submitted on the issue of discovery.

If the case survives that challenge, a pretrial hearing has been scheduled for Jan. 11 and the trial for two weeks later.

The case would be the first time, according to Kreep, that the actual merits of the dispute will have been heard in open court. A multitude of such disputes have been rejected out of hand by various state and federal courts. Even the U.S. Supreme Court repeatedly has rejected urgent appeals to hear the evidence.

The suit alleges Obama is actually a citizen of Indonesia and "possibly still citizen of Kenya, usurping the position of the president of the United States of America and the commander-in-chief."

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This whole thing is kinda fishy, Obama has spent a lot of money and time steering away from this and I saw the birth certificate that was posted on that website that says he was born in Hawaii. It was a copy dated long after Obamas birth.
The address thats givin for his residence , the people that have been living there for over 52 years dispute that
It will be interesting if this gets to court, but with all the things happening lately I doubt it
It is interesting the amount of money he (maybe tax payers?) have spent for him to not officially show proof. I mean I had to show proof of age and citizenship to play little league!
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just wow... I am amazed at the idiocracy of my fellow citizens. This really is the land of confusion.
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Some serious whack job racists in this country.....
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Not saying I dont believe he is a citizen but....

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Typical replies of left wing radical nut jobs, when they have no proof.
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Words cannot describe just how dumb most Obama haters really are.
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Typical replies of left wing radical nut jobs, when they have no proof.
lol... show me proof that he isn't a citizen... your an idiot. k thx.
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Some serious whack job racists in this country.....
It has nothing to do with with racism.... When I first heard that a black man was running, I was like maybe there will be a good change for the better. However, when I heard the name Borack Obama I immediately went to myself "WTF"?

I was expecting a name like or similar to Jessie Jackson, Michael Williams, an american former euro name. It is not about race, it is about citizenship. To be MY commander in chief you must at least be from my neighborhood!
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Yeah reminds me of the whole war for oil and pipe line bullshit people said about Bush.
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lol... show me proof that he isn't a citizen... your an idiot. k thx.
I think you have it backwards.
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It is interesting the amount of money he (maybe tax payers?) have spent for him to not officially show proof. I mean I had to show proof of age and citizenship to play little league!
I raised a little girl myself
When I registered her in school, I had to show court papers that I had custody of her
Do you think they ask women that?

They hated me at her school, everytime they had a teacher piss me off, I scared the principal, I got one teacher fired for giving my daughter an F in guitar, turned out, if you were a girl in his class, you couldn't get above a C in his class for the last 2 years, and the school didn't catch that, so I called the newspaper and he got canned.


Now she's in the Navy and doing great
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When I registered her in school, I had to show court papers that I had custody of her
Do you think they ask women that?

They hated me at her school, everytime they had a teacher piss me off, I scared the principal, I got one teacher fired for giving my daughter an F in guitar, turned out, if you were a girl in his class, you couldn't get above a C in his class for the last 2 years, and the school didn't catch that, so I called the newspaper and he got canned.


Now she's in the Navy and doing great
Crazy world we live in.
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I am 100% all American, and to be my president you must be born in my country.
I don't care if you are pink, blue, green, yellow, or what color you are.

To represent me and my nation in my mind you must be born in my country.
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I don't care if you are pink, blue, green, yellow, or what color you are.

To represent me and my nation in my mind you must be born in my country.
You're a clown!
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Birthers denounce the notion that Obama was born in Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, despite court rulings and statements by Fukino and Hawaii's Republican governor, Linda Lingle.
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wow... no one really cares anymore, this is how and why nations fall
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The WORLD NET DAILY is one of the worst PROPAGANDA MILLS in the fucking world. They have been pushing their anti-Obama agenda for months and have been a rallying ground for moronic idiot bible thumpers in their red letter writing campaigns, town hall invasions, and tea parties. The have the nerve to say they are legitimate journalists. They are Obama haters and fucking RACIST RELIGIOUS IDIOTS, period. You should read some of the posts on their forum. They would make you cringe. Some of those fools are so close to losing it and picking up their guns it isn't even funny. They scare me. But what scares me even more is that the moderates and left wingers are just sitting there on their asses, watching, laughing, and not taking them seriously. Didn't we learned anything from 1994? They are going to get their way because they simply will not stop until they do, or until the real WE THE PEOPLE rise up and bitch-slap their fat asses down.

I got this from another forum. Kinda of funny, but I suspect wikipedia has already made the changes. The person who posted it is using it to make the point that the left are all evil hate mongers.

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What a stupid thread.
At least you haven't crowded in with the idiots... saying that Obama is a tool to progress the New World Order is one thing but saying he isn't a citizen after MONTHS of thousands+ more people, investigators, journalists and court cases is just retarded.
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RE: left-wing apathy, I rest my case. U R FUCKING CLUELESS! Enjoy being told that you have to go to church or be arrested for disobeying God's law.
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i can't believe people are still going on about this. get over it!
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lol wut?
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This whole thing is kinda fishy, Obama has spent a lot of money and time steering away from this and I saw the birth certificate that was posted on that website that says he was born in Hawaii. It was a copy dated long after Obamas birth.
The address thats givin for his residence , the people that have been living there for over 52 years dispute that
It will be interesting if this gets to court, but with all the things happening lately I doubt it
It is a STUPID FUCKING LAW. It should be fucking repealed. You know damn well if this was Sarah 'da hockey mom' Palin, the right and the fucking WND would be saying the same thing.
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He is NOT a US citizen........................................... ..........The latest terror attack is a great example of THEY steer clear of the real picture. They create lies and smoke screes put the nation on alert to cover it all up.
Are you saying that you buy this FUCKING BULLSHIT?
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Simple, let him prove he's a citizen in court, then it will be done with
He shouldn't have a problem with that being a president that promised transparency!
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It is a STUPID FUCKING LAW. It should be fucking repealed. You know damn well if this was Sarah 'da hockey mom' Palin, the right and the fucking WND would be saying the same thing.
Are you retared? Just checking
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wow... no one really cares anymore, this is how and why nations fall
There isn't a trial verdict yet right? Don't you believe in America? Don't you believe in freedoms and innocent until proven guilty? You sound like you don't care about any of that.
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It is interesting the amount of money he (maybe tax payers?) have spent for him to not officially show proof. I mean I had to show proof of age and citizenship to play little league!
No legitimate or reputable media outlet is pushing the BC bullshit. It is coming from the far right wackos who think we live in the last days and who are preparing to meet Jesus in his super sonic chariot in the sky. They ALL can't be part of the cover up. If you believe that, I bet you also believe that the USA is secretly controlled by a shadow government of financial power elites called the Illuminati who sacrifice babies to Satan so that he will usher in the time of the Anti-Christ.
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just wow... I am amazed at the idiocracy of my fellow citizens. This really is the land of confusion.
Yep! We are collectively a bunch or redneck trailer trash bible thumping morons and the rest of the world is laughing at us.
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Not saying I dont believe he is a citizen but....





Typical replies of left wing radical nut jobs, when they have no proof.
This is more typical -- FUCK OFF!
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Old 12-31-2009, 10:18 AM   #40
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Just so you idiots know... the congress already recognized Obama as being born in Hawaii as well as the fact that his birth has been certified by the state...
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Just so you idiots know... the congress already recognized Obama as being born in Hawaii as well as the fact that his birth has been certified by the state...
Is that normal for congress to do?
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Old 12-31-2009, 10:21 AM   #43
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I am 100% all American, and to be my president you must be born in my country.
I don't care if you are pink, blue, green, yellow, or what color you are.

To represent me and my nation in my mind you must be born in my country.
Explain to me EXACTLY how that law makes us safer? There are many home-grown terrorists. IT'S A GODDAMN STUPID FUCKING LAW!
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Just so you idiots know... the congress already recognized Obama as being born in Hawaii as well as the fact that his birth has been certified by the state...
According to the far right, congress works for the NWO and they are going to all be bumped out of office by GOD'S ARMY in 2010.
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GLEN BECK,

WHY DID YOU POST THAT STUPID FUCKING IRRELEVANT VIDEO. IT MAKES LOADING THE PAGE SLOWER.

Do you serve any purpose here at all or are you just another fucking troll? Seriously!
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Birthers denounce the notion that Obama was born in Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, despite court rulings and statements by Fukino and Hawaii's Republican governor, Linda Lingle.
You should stop wasting your time. YOU JUST CAN'T ARGUE WITH STUPID!
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Is that normal for congress to do?
Jesus Fucking Christ, you are a retard!
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Is that normal for congress to do?
It's normal for Congress to celebrate the anniversary of a state with a resolution... which contained language that also declared it as the birthplace of president Obama
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Jesus Fucking Christ, you are a retard!
Dude take your meds and get a better connection than dial-up. The thread is loading fine with that vid in it.

I asked a simple yes or no question. Is it that you dont have an answer for the question?
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