Originally Posted by KILL_FRENZY (Post 16699025)

This thread has a valid point, I'm sure...

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 16699139)

Damn all you people do is ramble on about nothing and argue with idiots over absolutely nothing.

So much for reading this thread to find out who exited the industry this past year, it turned into a typical pissing match.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16696761)

Damn man...either you're speaking in code to me, or I'm still fucked up from drinking too much last night! :1orglaugh

I can tell you this. At least once a week I turn down offers to buy x-sells. Not for any moral reasons. But because it can be risky if a company were to sell you hidden x-sells or even worse...cancel page x-sells. That is some crooked shit there.

But just saying... I get offers to buy up to 1000 x-sells a day at $17 a pop. Those are trial memberships. 90% of them WILL convert. And then 20 to 40% of those WILL rebill. It's a fast way to make millions of dollars. And no, I'm not one of those guys who has multiple merchant accounts. I only have one. So I can't risk losing my one account and I obviously can't shuffle merchant accounts since I only have one.

But as I told you earlier, I did do a little revshare one in 07 and the beginning of 08. Since I was VERY careful it was only about 20 to 30 x-sells a day. But it still made money, and it still makes money rebilling to this very day. Faithful members of claudia-marie.com who interact with her via email and live cam shows. Those people didn't get "ripped off", they got a good deal, discovered a site that they now love and everybody wins.

Now on the buying of x-sells...yes, you would be making good money.

BUT, you have to be able to get several merchant accounts and you have to have a programmer smart enough to script the whole thing together and make sure that no merchant account gets overloaded. AND you have to have tremendous customer support to stop chargebacks.

But you would literally have 30,000 members in one months time. You would spend $510,000 And if my numbers hold true (90%) and you charge $29.99 per membership plus a dollar for the trial you would gross $836,730 in the first month for a profit of $326,730

Then if only 30% rebill the next month you just netted $242,919 off the first month along with a nice fresh $326,730 net from your new x-sells in the new month.

Now rinse and repeat for 10 years or so and you start to get the idea of the money involved. Again, not defending it or attacking it. Just stating the facts. It's a numbers game.

As I said before, I love the porn business too much to get involved in the day to day complexities of going large on x-sells. But it is damn profitable. And in 30 years when I'm ready to retire...IF I retire I should say, I'll probably spend the last year doing exactly that to make myself a big nest egg for my family.

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 16699091)

Standard Internet

Originally Posted by datatank (Post 16699219)

Have you been awake for 4 days on something?

I have never seen some one take so much time to put together a totally crazy scenario. This post has some of the most off statements I have even seen lol

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 16699342)

After all these years It's still equally fun to read threads like this :) I must be bored lol. Happy new year everyone btw.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16699367)

Happy New Years to you guys on the East Coast...I still have 3 hours to go. :) Hopefully everyone in this thread will prosper and be around this time next year in good health and good fortune.

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 16699318)

Is there a list of the trash were were NOT able to shed in '09?

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 16695778)

these guys will shut down banks.

Originally Posted by datatank (Post 16699219)

Have you been awake for 4 days on something?

I have never seen some one take so much time to put together a totally crazy scenario. This post has some of the most off statements I have even seen lol

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 16699342)

After all these years It's still equally fun to read threads like this :) I must be bored lol. Happy new year everyone btw.