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  • kmanrox
    aka K-Man
    • Oct 2001
    • 29295

    #1

    >> How oldschool internet porn ARE YOU?

    Yeah fuckers this is a poll. I'm feeling nostalgic.. feeling like an old pioneer man of net porn but on previous threads when i felt oldschoolest there was a surprising number of ppl who were legitimately olderschool than me... I'm bored.. come out of the woodworks and call me a newb.. but have proof please or i'll newb-supercede you and that's as bad as a man who gets drunk and wakes up with a tramp stamp in the small of his back i tell ya!
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  • baddog
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 107089

    #2
    Well, I remember meeting you at Aimee Sweet's birthday party many years ago. But I don't know if you had started before me or not.

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    • Loch
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      • Feb 2002
      • 7674

      #3
      2000 for me, not really oldschool but i guess i would be considered a veteran in online porn

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      • billywatson
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        • Aug 2002
        • 3281

        #4
        I got excited when The Adult Buffet gave me a #2 listing...for free.

        I got really excited when The Hun top listed me...for free.

        I submitted everyday to Sex Hungry Joe's, Persian Kitty, and Gregpix.

        That old school enough?

        I Shoot Porn.

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        • baddog
          So Fucking Banned
          • Apr 2001
          • 107089

          #5
          I don't recall Adult Buffet charging for listings. Did they evolve to that? Man, used to love getting two top 10 listings a day with them.

          Can you say massive traffic?

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          • quiet
            we'll miss you our friend. RIP
            • Sep 2001
            • 25115

            #6
            1996, adult check and pornopass avs's were my beginning.
            we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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            • candyflip
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              • Jul 2002
              • 43069

              #7
              I went to a show in 1999 and it was on from that point for me.

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              • kmanrox
                aka K-Man
                • Oct 2001
                • 29295

                #8
                forgot to add my story;

                Ooops... Me: Summer if *1996*.. let's say *July* i had my first porn site hosted on my AOL homepage, it got listed in Persian Kitty and it was banned/deleted a few minutes later... i just like PK's power of communication is why i got into it.. not cuz i loved porn (which i did, but honestly it had no bearing on why i chose this industry.. if i thought i could make cnn.com and have millions of ppl read my thoughts i'd have done that just as well).. i honestly... teenage naively didnt even fathom this could be a way to make money... i was so naive that i thought the 'sponsor' banners on PK's site were like a sign of distinction like a pro ball player gets endorsements! I actually hotlinked some of her banners and link code just to have a look like my site was good enough to get a corporate sponsorship!) Yep I said it....
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                • quiet
                  we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                  • Sep 2001
                  • 25115

                  #9
                  hey baddog, didn't you at one time work for or partner with an avs or a tgp guy? like way back, around 2000-2001? i seem to remember some posts on eric (sobegirls) old board from way back. maybe i'm out to lunch...
                  we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                  • harvey
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                    • Jul 2001
                    • 9266

                    #10
                    end of 1997 here. Not sure how to prove it nor if I care to do it, lol. I used mostly free hosting (NET TAXI, lol!) back in those days and my first registered domains were http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://pornostars.com.ar and http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://sex-o-pedia.com.ar . Some of the oldies might remember those and the older nettaxi pages
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                    • kmanrox
                      aka K-Man
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 29295

                      #11
                      Originally posted by baddog
                      I don't recall Adult Buffet charging for listings. Did they evolve to that? Man, used to love getting two top 10 listings a day with them.

                      Can you say massive traffic?
                      they did not.. i was his assistant webmaster before staring rawpussy and honestly, i threw up my own galleries in the top 10 slots alot of the time.. amassed like 10k recurring members (they even retained back then!).... you know what the great sales pitch on the galleries was?

                      >>>>> NEXT


                      yep.. a total blink link converted like fucking GOLD back them!


                      Surely Buffet evolved into paid slots as most TGPs eventually did.. i wish i had the insight before selling off rawpussy after i couldnt seem to make more than 5k a month off of it.. and this was still the GOLDEN TRAFFIC days! heh

                      live and learn or fall by the wayside i guess
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                      • TisMe
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                        • Aug 2008
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                        #12
                        96 here, I still smile remembering Juliet's *POOF* on the old Adult Check boards. I also had sites with Age Check / Cyberage and PornoPass / Netverifier and Richard sending me nasty emails when I screwed something up

                        AC Gold sites were a gold mine.

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                        • datatank
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                          • Aug 2004
                          • 5471

                          #13
                          Originally posted by kmanrox
                          Yeah fuckers this is a poll. I'm feeling nostalgic.. feeling like an old pioneer man of net porn but on previous threads when i felt oldschoolest there was a surprising number of ppl who were legitimately olderschool than me... I'm bored.. come out of the woodworks and call me a newb.. but have proof please or i'll newb-supercede you and that's as bad as a man who gets drunk and wakes up with a tramp stamp in the small of his back i tell ya!
                          I remember your purple boxter and vanity kman plates

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                          • JFK
                            FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 67373

                            #14
                            early 99 started with adult check

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                            • baddog
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                              • Apr 2001
                              • 107089

                              #15
                              Originally posted by quiet
                              hey baddog, didn't you at one time work for or partner with an avs or a tgp guy? like way back, around 2000-2001? i seem to remember some posts on eric (sobegirls) old board from way back. maybe i'm out to lunch...
                              When I first started out it was with "Mogul." We had a lot of things going on.

                              We came up with the first auto-submitter for TGP's, then MGP's, had two AVS's I recall (one for static pics, one for vids), then we did the ContentLotto thing.

                              After six years I called it quits and ended up with goodgirl as a partner.

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                              • kmanrox
                                aka K-Man
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 29295

                                #16
                                Originally posted by datatank
                                I remember your purple boxter and vanity kman plates
                                hahaha yesss california KMANROX

                                sucked for getting auto-camera tickets... quite readable.. next time i think i'll lose the ego and go with ones and L's in hopes of fooling them ;)
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                                • quiet
                                  we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                  • Sep 2001
                                  • 25115

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                  When I first started out it was with "Mogul." We had a lot of things going on.

                                  We came up with the first auto-submitter for TGP's, then MGP's, had two AVS's I recall (one for static pics, one for vids), then we did the ContentLotto thing.

                                  After six years I called it quits and ended up with goodgirl as a partner.
                                  that's it, Mogul. what ever happened to that guy?
                                  we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                  • kmanrox
                                    aka K-Man
                                    • Oct 2001
                                    • 29295

                                    #18
                                    damn you guys talking about AVS's... i shit you not i had a signed contract with ron levi himself to make what would have been only the 3rd or 4th AVS in existence at the time.... it ended up on the backburner and we concentrated on cybererotica..... i could kick myself every time i see one of CyberAge dave's car posts!!!!! haha
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                                    • Barefootsies
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                                      • Feb 2005
                                      • 42635

                                      #19
                                      I have been on the internet before it was the internet. I started back in the early BBS and telnet days initially. I have been on the 'web' since it's existence. I have been in this industry since May of 1997 after finishing college.

                                      I started with a celebrity site. Then bought some content and feeds and did a few foot fetish pay sites. As well as the other learning things of the day. I have dabbled in just about everything at one time or another.

                                      I worked 18 hours days. The full time gig in telco, then came home and endlessly worked on my sites. A lot of trial and error. I went into this full time 6-7 years ago and started the production company.

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                                      • kmanrox
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                                        • Oct 2001
                                        • 29295

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                        I have been on the internet before it was the internet. I started back in the early BBS and telnet days initially. I have been on the 'web' since it's existence. I have been in this industry since May of 1997 after finishing college.

                                        just being on the net doesnt count BF!! you're in at may of 97, newb!!
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                                        • Far-L
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                                          • Feb 2002
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                                          #21
                                          When people still used 14k modems and went to BBS like "TheGeneral". Our first domain was "monsveneris.com" which I think we owned in like 95 or so. Prehistory for sure.
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                                          • baddog
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                                            • Apr 2001
                                            • 107089

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by quiet
                                            that's it, Mogul. what ever happened to that guy?
                                            Before we parted ways he had said he wanted to get out of adult for religious [I suspect family though] reasons. I agreed to manage all the adult operations and he handled software development and the mainstream side of things.

                                            When I called it quits I guess he had no reason to keep the adult side going and it just kind of went away. I don't think I have talked to him since the day I said I was leaving.

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                                            • Barefootsies
                                              Choice is an Illusion
                                              • Feb 2005
                                              • 42635

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by kmanrox
                                              you're in at may of 97, newb!!
                                              Should You Email Your Members?

                                              Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                              Enough Said.

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                                              • kmanrox
                                                aka K-Man
                                                • Oct 2001
                                                • 29295

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Far-L
                                                When people still used 14k modems and went to BBS like "TheGeneral". Our first domain was "monsveneris.com" which I think we owned in like 95 or so. Prehistory for sure.
                                                as much as i love you i have to newstamp ya! my first modem was like 200 or whatever, 300 baud? the 14k baud modem upgrade felt like being i was directly tapped into MaeWest-like speed experience.. dont even get me started on the orgasm i almost had when i got my first ISDN installed... whoohaaahh
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                                                • kmanrox
                                                  aka K-Man
                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                  • 29295

                                                  #25
                                                  and for the record.. as someone who lives oversees.. you american based ppl are SO SPOILEd with your uberfast loading internet speeds! i cream myself when i visit the fam in the USA.. im such a geek i even download big files i dont need just to watch how fast it will download... haha
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                                                  • Due
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                                                    • Mar 2001
                                                    • 3620

                                                    #26
                                                    I'm not 100% sure when I started, my first website was about the game Diablo 1, turn quickly into an adult site, it was also possible to buy .cc domains paid monthly.

                                                    I was either 16 or 17 when I made my first website for a client that got featured in a newspaper because it had auto starting background music ( non adult )
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                                                    • baddog
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                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                      • 107089

                                                      #27
                                                      300 baud was my first modem also. Upgraded to a 1200 baud.

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                                                      • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                        • 38323

                                                        #28
                                                        My first paysite (Exotic Amy) went live in early 2000, although I was a contributing member to a BBS called Burn This Flag since 1993.

                                                        In 2001, I launched my second solo site (Jenna Joy), and in early 2003, I launched Asian Diva Girls. I currently own and operate (or have under development) six Asian niche paysites.



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                                                        • SubAms
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                                                          • May 2002
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                                                          #29
                                                          first site was a TGP, filthyteens.com back in '97, then started working AdultCheck and since 2001 mainly paysites.
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                                                          • fatfoo
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                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                            • 27763

                                                            #30
                                                            Apparently, according to the stats of my fatfoo nickname, I've been registered at GFY since March 2003. Long time.

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                                                            • fris
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                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                              • 55700

                                                              #31
                                                              xpics and amateurpages was my first start
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                                                              • AaronM
                                                                GFY Royality ;)
                                                                • Oct 2001
                                                                • 46923

                                                                #32
                                                                Ran an adult BBS starting in 1993....Pretty sure it was 93...Been a few years.

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                                                                • Vjo
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 6082

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Ya got me a bit K-Man so no challenge here.

                                                                  - Oct 1996, Bought my domain sqvirtual, set up shop and learned basic html and built a little site just messing around. Problem was I didn't know diddly about making any money.

                                                                  - Oct 31, 1997, I stumble on that first board (YNot?) and seen Fantasyman and a few jousting for position.

                                                                  Aaah to go to that night again.

                                                                  I still remember how well Pink Bits sold. Damn that sold easy in them days.

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                                                                  These 4 come to mind as being there, on that board, ready for your traffic that night. A few more came soon after but not too many others at the very beginning.

                                                                  Note: 2 were Aussie too.

                                                                  Occurs to me everyone back then was named *man too.
                                                                  Last edited by Vjo; 12-26-2009, 03:58 PM.

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                                                                  • harvey
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                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                    • 9266

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Vjo
                                                                    Ya got me a bit K-Man so no challenge here.

                                                                    - Oct 1996, Bought my domain sqvirtual, set up shop and learned basic html and built a little site just messing around. Problem was I didn't know diddly about making any money.

                                                                    - Oct 31, 1997, I stumble on that first board (YNot?) and seen Fantasyman and a few jousting for position.

                                                                    Aaah to go to that night again.

                                                                    I still remember how well Pink Bits sold. Damn that sold easy in them days.

                                                                    Pink Bits
                                                                    Intergal
                                                                    Serge Cash
                                                                    CE Cash

                                                                    These 4 come to mind as being there, on that board, ready for your traffic that night. A few more came soon after but not too many others at the very beginning.

                                                                    Note: 2 were Aussie too.

                                                                    Occurs to me everyone back then was named *man too.
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                                                                    • JohnnyPearl
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                                                                      • Mar 2004
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      I was the first Male personal site on the web since 97.
                                                                      Last edited by JohnnyPearl; 12-26-2009, 04:07 PM.

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                                                                      • kmanrox
                                                                        aka K-Man
                                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                                        • 29295

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                        Ran an adult BBS starting in 1993....Pretty sure it was 93...Been a few years.
                                                                        i'll waiver this one.. bbs's have been around for ages and yes they were the tru beginning of what's to come.. i'm meaning more WWW action.. when ppl uses amateur hardcore and cybereorita thier ownly sonsors... the i think cam along xpics ajd avs's if im not mistaken




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                                                                        • harvey
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          bah, everybody was in BBS since 93/94, Internet Porn is another thing

                                                                          Just to let you all pour a tear: do you remember xpics 0.20 cents per click? Oh my, I'd kill for just the 0.1% of that nowadays!
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                                                                          • Vjo
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                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                            • 6082

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by kmanrox
                                                                            amateur hardcore .. xpics ..
                                                                            Yeah big Kudos for pointing them out. They may have been there. Amateur Hardcore was and also maybe one of the very first sponsors. Xpics may have not quite been running on Oct 31, 1997 is my gut feeling but maybe they were.

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                                                                            • kmanrox
                                                                              aka K-Man
                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                              • 29295

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by harvey
                                                                              bah, everybody was in BBS since 93/94, Internet Porn is another thing

                                                                              Just to let you all pour a tear: do you remember xpics 0.20 cents per click? Oh my, I'd kill for just the 0.1% of that nowadays!
                                                                              oh yeah i remember them.. if i recall i made more with them than anyone but again, if i recall they went tits up, right?
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                                                                              • Vjo
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                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                • 6082

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by harvey
                                                                                bah, everybody was in BBS since 93/94, Internet Porn is another thing

                                                                                Just to let you all pour a tear: do you remember xpics 0.20 cents per click? Oh my, I'd kill for just the 0.1% of that nowadays!
                                                                                You bet at the very beginning they paid a big .20 a hit, might of been raw even .. rings a bell.

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                                                                                • harvey
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by kmanrox
                                                                                  oh yeah i remember them.. if i recall i made more with them than anyone but again, if i recall they went tits up, right?
                                                                                  indeed. but well, those were the times, ha ha

                                                                                  another oldie: do you remember Mads? He was the original owner of Worldsex, he "img src'd" every fucking trade to grow when nobody knew about img src, grew Worldsex to a mega site, sold it and supposedly retired to be a Congressman in Holland. Anyone knows what happened with that?
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                                                                                  • AaronM
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                                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                                    • 46923

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by harvey
                                                                                    bah, everybody was in BBS since 93/94, Internet Porn is another thing

                                                                                    Very few people we doing adult BBS's especially compared to what the Internet is now.

                                                                                    Even fewer were shooting their own content as I was. Most of them were stealing their content from McHenry and such.

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                                                                                    • harvey
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Vjo
                                                                                      You bet at the very beginning they paid a big .20 a hit, might of been raw even .. rings a bell.
                                                                                      I think it was unique, not raw, but they allowed blind clicks (which I found out when they were finishing that campaign so couldn't get on board with that)
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                                                                                      • Tango
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                                                                                        • datatank
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                                          Very few people we doing adult BBS's especially compared to what the Internet is now.

                                                                                          Even fewer were shooting their own content as I was. Most of them were stealing their content from McHenry and such.
                                                                                          Did anyone make good money from running these bbs things?

                                                                                          I always see posts about people saying they ran them but I only ever saw ads for them in the back of some magazines when I was a kid

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                                                                                          • Vjo
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                                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                                            • 6082

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by harvey
                                                                                            I think it was unique, not raw, but they allowed blind clicks (which I found out when they were finishing that campaign so couldn't get on board with that)
                                                                                            Being a porn affill has its "seasons" for sponsors. They all seem, at the time, like they will go on forever..

                                                                                            And the Worldsex thing rings a bell.. a very faint bell..

                                                                                            The secret was to work in the 90's (anything worked!) and read the boards in the early 2000's even up to now as lots of good stuff on boards. BUT, in those days we all were (seeking the answer on boards) which was traffic.

                                                                                            A simple link list tended in those days like PK, a couple trades, and you were In Like Flynt.

                                                                                            But the boards were facinating in those days.

                                                                                            But Kudos Harvey you are old school for sure.

                                                                                            Sorry to hear about Intergal. As everyone knows they were very good to me.
                                                                                            Last edited by Vjo; 12-26-2009, 04:41 PM.

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                                                                                            • NemesisEnforcer
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                                              I have been on the internet before it was the internet. I started back in the early BBS and telnet days initially. ...
                                                                                              Those were the days, The McHenry BBS, Farmers Daughter BBS, WildCat, Galacticomm's Major BBS, FIDO, Phil Katz's PKWare, ProComm as shareware ...
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                                                                                              • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                                                                                                • Jul 2004
                                                                                                • 38323

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by JohnnyPearl
                                                                                                I was the first Male personal site on the web since 97.
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                                                                                                • AaronM
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                                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                                  • 46923

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by datatank
                                                                                                  Did anyone make good money from running these bbs things?

                                                                                                  I always see posts about people saying they ran them but I only ever saw ads for them in the back of some magazines when I was a kid

                                                                                                  Depends on what you consider "good money." I was making low 6 figures at 19.

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                                                                                                  • CashGordon
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                                                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                                                    • 1201

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    I have started by 1996 with adult check sites and than IBill. I was like their 200th customer or so, RIP. It all started with a supermodel and hentai site.


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