U. S. Stealth Care Bill

Should be obvious to everyone now its both sides that are both corrupt and they do these fake WWF battles to keep the morons from figuring out that they are playing both sides.

You want to bet? You want to know how they'll reconcile? They'll take all the bullshit from one bill mix it up with all the bullshit from the other and give us one huge fucking pile of bullshit. And both will say "well, we had to make a compromise. We needed to do something for 'the people'" Only they don't tell you "the people" they are talking about isn't you and I.

Too bad they don't have the money to pay for it.

Yeah like McCain/Palin would be sooo much better. Health care bill would be "If you're not a millionaire you are fucked and need to die" health care. Yes soooooooo much better. before you bitch about who is in charge now LOOK at what the alternative would be.

Last time I checked the rrepublcians had 6 years of total control. So they had a chance to make changes to health care and didn't. Hmmmmmmmmm. Why don't you sit and chew on that one for awhile. Actually THINK about why in 6 years not even ONE attempt was made to change health care that would benefit everyday people? I wonder why the republcians would not have been more pro-active about that?

besides I'm not sure why you are pissed. Let's say this thing is total fubared. Then the GOP will take over again and gut it. Problem solved. And if you think bought votes are new then go take a hsitory class. It used to be much worse 100 years ago. Country seem to survive it.

Where are all the lack of objective reality, Ron Paul haters now???

Then how come people don't vote libertarian or some other party? I'm tired of people who keep bitching every 2-4 years how corrupt the system is when they keep supporting that same 2 party system. 1/3 of the population is supposedly independant yet what do 3rd party candates get? 1%-2% of the vote? Anyone that voted either democrat or republican needs to STFU until they vote for someone else.

Well. . . there is that one tiny little detail

I have been saying the same for a long time. If everyone that complained about only have 2 options during the election actually voted for 3rd party candidates, we would have a 3rd party.

People like to bitch, but really don't want actual change. That and about half the population doesn't really give a damn about anything other than what is on TV that night.

Because the mainstream media is owned by the same people who own both parties. They decide who wins and it's propagated via said media. Glenn Beck is a great example of the two faced media. Back during the elections he was talking down on Ron Paul like all of the other talking heads on TV. Now he acts like he's his best friend. They know Obama is going to be a 1 term President and they also know the Democrats are signing their own pink slips. So what they do is put the Glenn becks on TV and capture those frustrated with whats going on so they can turn them in the direction they want them to go. Whether that be candidates down the road or sell them on something in another form. A great example with Glenn Beck is he's calling for a 2% tax across the board to "pay down the debt" well guess who else is calling for a 2% tax across the board? The Democrats with the "carbon tax" scam

Here's a guy who can see through the BS

When one looks at the other parties...what there platform is...and who the nominees are...one can pretty much understand why people do not vote for third party candidates...but I too would like to see the rise of a third party...I am just not sure that any of the existing third parties should be one to rise.

We have a government that is "for the people and by the people"...so people can change the direction of government...when ever the majority of the people choose to...but one has to remember that what ever direction government takes...whom ever is elected to office...it will still be people in charge and the nature of the human animal will prevail. That is to say that greed...corruption...dishonesty...and abuse of power will prevail as it is the nature of the human animal.

200% agree. it doesnt matter who is in power, they all suck

Correction we have a government for the corporations and by the corporations. Did you know you were a corporation?


It's time to rid nature of those types of "human animals". Do you know what the legal definition of human being?

human being See MONSTER.
—Ballentine's Law Dictionary (1930)

monster A human being by birth, but in some part resembling a lower animal. A monster hath no inheritable blood, and cannot be heir to any land.
—Ballentine's Law Dictionary (1930)


Hmm you would be amazed at how much you don't know.. Imagine that "english" that looks like English but has an entirely different meaning.. I think they cal it legalese.

I wouldn't be so fast to say that Democrats will be out of power and that Obama is a one term president. For the most part people don't care about the national debt or the budget deficit. People care about their lives. If they look around and see that they have a decent house and a decent job and a decent car and if the future looks good for them, then they aren't in an all fired hurry for change to come around.

Many of those that right now are screaming the loudest are primarily right wingers who have been herded into the "tea party" under the guise that they are doing something great. In the end those people will put their support behind some republican candidate. It might be Ron Paul, but Ron Paul really has no actual interest in being president so he will lose and they will eventually support someone like Romney or, God forbid, Palin. They are nothing new and they only make up a small percent of the population.

It is very hard to beat an incumbent president. It is almost impossible to beat him if he is popular. Obama's future is in his hands. There will be a health care bill which, conveniently, won't really start to go into action until after he runs for a second term so if it sucks he doesn't have to deal with that during the election. If the situation in Iraq/Afghanistan is getting better and the economy is recovered/recovering and looking good in 2012, he will get re-elected. He can show health care, a recovered economy and turning the war against terror around has his achievements and he will probably win easily. That said, if things don't go his way, then he could be vulnerable.

The democrats in the house and senate are a different story. They will go home and tell the people of their districts that they have passed health care and are working to turn the economy around and that all the republicans want to do is say no to everything and keep things as they were. The question is, will the people buy it? In some areas they will and in others they won't. I predict that in 2010 they will lose seats in both the house and senate, bu they won't lose their majority.

I don't believe in a media conspiracy that pertains to them choosing a candidate and talking them up or bashing them. I believe the news is all about ratings and they cover what will give them ratings. If bashing someone or supporting someone does that, then that is what they do.

The government is composed of people...corporations are composed of people...other people can control the government and the corporations if they so choose.

I am not any longer a corporation...I used to be a corporation...and I really do not have any interest in your BS explaining to me why you think I am a corporation.

I also have zero interest in anything that may be printed in "Ballentine's Law Dictionary (1930)".

To rid nature of those "types" of human animals...one would have to exterminate 99% of mankind and even then I suspect the nature of the human animal would still prevail.