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12-21-2009, 01:14 AM

I don't understand why we are so middle ages about this. Everyone know it goes on. Most men visit prostitutes. I recall that the question was on the ballot in SF and it was soundly defeated, I mean soundly, in one of the most liberal cities in the USA.

Why are we such hypocrites? It is a total waste of Law Enforcement resources to enforce laws against prostitution. There is no way to stop it. If we legalized it and taxed it, we would be able to raise much needed tax revenues and we would ensure safety by requiring safe sex practices and AIDS/VD tests.

If it was legal, the demand would shift to the legal brothels and off the streets, which would clean them up and make neighborhoods and people safer, especially exploited women. LE could then concentrate on illegal prostitution and we could throw the book at them.

Why can't women understand that they would be much safer if their cheating husbands were going to legal safe brothels than to crack whores in the alley? Can anyone give me even one negative for legalizing prostitution?

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12-21-2009, 01:33 AM

Once the older baby boomer generation dies off it might be possible but you still would have the bible thumping Christians to fight.
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12-21-2009, 01:43 AM

Jesus hung out with prostitutes. I'm not saying he used them. Why do Christians have to be so unlike their Christ?

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12-21-2009, 01:49 AM

Fight To Bang Some Prostitutes!!

Send a email to your local elected officials and ask them to put it on the table.

Write up a detailed plan how the tax money can be used for something useful.

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12-21-2009, 01:53 AM

well...agreed!
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12-21-2009, 02:12 AM

Prostitution is legal - in most European countries.
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12-21-2009, 02:19 AM

I agree with you... it should be legal. But just like marijuana and gambling it's unregulated except in Nevada (not including medical marijuana)

If the government can't tax it and make money off it they're going to keep it illegal...if they tried to pass any regulations were they ran safe legal alternatives the old baby boomer types and religious right wings would go ape shit and say these are sins and on and on and on. It would never pass.

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12-21-2009, 02:20 AM

here in the netherlands it is woot woot

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12-21-2009, 04:20 AM

In Holland its legal
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12-21-2009, 04:26 AM

Legal here in Australia and New Zealand, and we are some of the most prudish people in the world. ;)

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12-21-2009, 04:29 AM

legal so sell but not buy up here...
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12-21-2009, 04:30 AM

in germany too ... ah I heard ...

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12-21-2009, 04:37 AM

Its leagal here as long as there is no middle man. ( Pimp )

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12-21-2009, 04:40 AM

Originally posted by Sausage

Legal here in Australia and New Zealand, and we are some of the most prudish people in the world. ;)

So basically the USA is still in the stone age, right?

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12-21-2009, 04:44 AM

Prostitution is legal in the United States... its called Congress
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12-21-2009, 04:53 AM

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12-21-2009, 05:00 AM

There is no fun in legal prostitution...

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12-21-2009, 05:21 AM

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12-21-2009, 05:31 AM

It makes no sense to prosecute people in victimless crimes. If a woman wants to have sex with a man for money, and the man wants to pay -- then where is the problem?

These are hang-ups from the Victorian era.

The same is applied to drug use. If someone wants to smoke ganja, or inject heroin -- what is the problem? The problems associated with drug use (crime, prostitution, etc.) stem from the high cost and limited availability of the drug. If governments were to spend a fraction of what they spend on fighting drugs, on giving the people who want drugs the drugs for free -- then the reduction in costs associated with the enforcing Victorian attitudes to 21st century problem would be staggering.

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12-21-2009, 05:32 AM

Ok, so prostitution is legal in Las Vegas, USA at least.

Prostitution is legal in Canada, but soliciting for purposes for prostitution in a public place is illegal. Soliciting for prostitution in a private conversation or phone call is legal in Canada.

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12-21-2009, 05:33 AM

Originally posted by POed-poster

Jesus hung out with prostitutes. I'm not saying he used them. Why do Christians have to be so unlike their Christ?

"Jesus was known to dine with prostitutes."

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12-21-2009, 05:35 AM

Originally posted by Twistys Tim

It makes no sense to prosecute people in victimless crimes. If a woman wants to have sex with a man for money, and the man wants to pay -- then where is the problem?

These are hang-ups from the Victorian era.

The same is applied to drug use. If someone wants to smoke ganja, or inject heroin -- what is the problem? The problems associated with drug use (crime, prostitution, etc.) stem from the high cost and limited availability of the drug. If governments were to spend a fraction of what they spend on fighting drugs, on giving the people who want drugs the drugs for free -- then the reduction in costs associated with the enforcing Victorian attitudes to 21st century problem would be staggering.

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12-21-2009, 05:48 AM

Originally posted by NewbieNudes

Well said.

Drug use / addiction seems to be more of a matter for the health system than the criminal justice system.

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12-21-2009, 06:49 AM

Actually

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Well said.

In the Victorian era in England, prostitution was legal. This comes from the religious revivals in America.
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12-21-2009, 07:13 AM

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12-21-2009, 07:20 AM

Originally posted by ilnjscb

In the Victorian era in England, prostitution was legal. This comes from the religious revivals in America.

So the recent religious revival in America has effected the attitudes of the British since the late 19th century?

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12-21-2009, 07:49 AM

Prostitution is not legal in Las Vegas -- actually its illegal in all of Clark County NV.

Its only legal in counties in Nevada with less than (I think) 750,000 people and as Nevada grows it could become illegal in counties where it is now legal.

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12-21-2009, 07:49 AM

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Prostitution is legal in the United States... its called Congress

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12-21-2009, 08:05 AM

Illegal Prostitution is nothing more than a way for the government and religious zealots to enforce dependence and slavery on people. If you think for a moment, a woman can run her own business successfully and all for profit, which removes her need to work at some company where she can be ordered around by some asshole man. If it were legal then the religious fucks would have to find some other route to recruit people for God's army and helping keep the coffers filled.

The government only wants to exert control and tell people how to live their lives, exactly opposite of our fight for independence. Our real problem is our elected leaders run on platforms of faith constantly and that appeals to the bible thumpers who then turn out in mass and vote to help further their agenda.

Has anyone considered what would religious fuckers do with their time if they actually managed to get everyone "saved"? They would not have anything to rail against or protest. Not to mention what a fucking boring world this would be.
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12-21-2009, 08:10 AM

The city of SF is also made up of Women, that vote. And it's not like most men, can find a prostitute, let alone have ever used one.

The hottest prostitute in the world couldn't pay me to get fucked or sucked by them....$1m in unmarked bills and I would laugh the bitch out of the room.

You really have to know your life and game has reached an all time level of pathetic if you're going to used-beat up meat bags to get your jollies off.

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12-21-2009, 08:44 AM

I think there is a difference between being a prostitute and fucking a prostitute... at least in my country. I dont really need prostitution to be legal as long as fucking them is.

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12-21-2009, 09:05 AM

Originally posted by pornlaw

Prostitution is not legal in Las Vegas -- actually its illegal in all of Clark County NV.

Its only legal in counties in Nevada with less than (I think) 750,000 people and as Nevada grows it could become illegal in counties where it is now legal.

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12-21-2009, 09:08 AM

I agree. It should be.

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12-21-2009, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by TheDoc

The city of SF is also made up of Women, that vote. And it's not like most men, can find a prostitute, let alone have ever used one.

The hottest prostitute in the world couldn't pay me to get fucked or sucked by them....$1m in unmarked bills and I would laugh the bitch out of the room.

You really have to know your life and game has reached an all time level of pathetic if you're going to used-beat up meat bags to get your jollies off.

Most men in the U.S know where to find one due the net, they all know about usasexguide and theeroticreview etc which makes it safer for them because they aren't likely to get ripped off plus they can read reviews about the girls. I am guessing a very large percentage of men have used one or went to the massage parlor.

Funny story: my friend met a random guy on-line. She was bored so she googled his nickname and it turns out he has like 10 reviews he wrote for TheEroticReview which he later admitted to.

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12-21-2009, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by bausch

Most men in the U.S know where to find one due the net, they all know about usasexguide and theeroticreview etc which makes it safer for them because they aren't likely to get ripped off plus they can read reviews about the girls. I am guessing a very large percentage of men have used one or went to the massage parlor.

Funny story: my friend met a random guy on-line. She was bored so she googled his nickname and it turns out he has like 10 reviews he wrote for TheEroticReview which he later admitted to.

Almost all the guys I know have had lots of fun with whores.

Personally, I have never heard of either of those websites...and I have never paid for any type of sexual pleasure, I can't see why I would ever need to do that when the world is packed with "free whores" willing to suck a cock for a fresh load.

If you're butt ugly, have a really tiny cock, a medical problem or maybe even zero game what so ever - just a social retard... and not married - then have all the whoring fun you want. Outside of that... paying for pussy is incredibility pathetic.

I truly, no part of my brain computes this... how it's "fun" to spend money <-- for --> pussy. No pussy in the world is worth paying for.. fuck taking the bitch to dinner, screw paying for pussy.. if she won't lay down and take it, go to the grocery store and get you one that will...

..then even if she can't suck a cock for shit, you at least know the bitch can cook.

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12-21-2009, 10:00 AM

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I don't understand why we are so middle ages about this. Everyone know it goes on. Most men visit prostitutes. I recall that the question was on the ballot in SF and it was soundly defeated, I mean soundly, in one of the most liberal cities in the USA.

Can anyone give me even one negative for legalizing prostitution?

1. Most men visit prostitutes.

Please.

Don't lump me in with the degenerate losers who have to PAY for pussy. Seriously, if I wanted to have sex with something ANYONE can pay to have sex with, I would feel like your average fucking geek who can't get laid. I.E. the majority of GFY. ( True )

Don't use the argument "You pay for it it one way or another" because dating is a two-way street. If it's one-way for you, that's your own personal problem that you can't attract women with anything other than money.

2. Can anyone give me even one negative for legalizing prostitution?

Can you imagine if, let's say, your dad died right when your mom had you, say, around 1 year old. She couldn't get a job and the government told her "Well, you CAN become a prostitute, so no benefits or welfare for you".

Forced prostitution, basically.

Hey, why don't we just legalize it and have people who scout out vulnerable young women to get them onto drugs and then get them to sell their bodies while we sit behind keyboards and make money off of them? Oh wait...

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12-21-2009, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by TheDoc

Personally, I have never heard of either of those websites...and I have never paid for any type of sexual pleasure, I can't see why I would ever need to do that when the world is packed with "free whores" willing to suck a cock for a fresh load.

If you're butt ugly, have a really tiny cock, a medical problem or maybe even zero game what so ever - just a social retard... and not married - then have all the whoring fun you want. Outside of that... paying for pussy is incredibility pathetic.

I truly, no part of my brain computes this... how it's "fun" to spend money <-- for --> pussy. No pussy in the world is worth paying for.. fuck taking the bitch to dinner, screw paying for pussy.. if she won't lay down and take it, go to the grocery store and get you one that will...

..then even if she can't suck a cock for shit, you at least know the bitch can cook.

Not to mention that it's NICE to have a woman you LIKE to have sex with. Spending all morning in bed with her, then getting up and going for lunch together. Going and doing fun stuff with, knowing that you're going to be able to do anything you want with her in bed and she'll be safe and faithful to you. Not to mention be classy.

Nothing quite as much of a turn off as when I met a bunch of porn chicks at shows, listening to them talk for 30 seconds was enough to make me shiver at their ghetto manners and trashy behaviour.

Doc, I agree, spending money for the company of a woman is pathetic.

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12-21-2009, 10:07 AM

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Illegal Prostitution is nothing more than a way for the government and religious zealots to enforce dependence and slavery on people. If you think for a moment, a woman can run her own business successfully and all for profit, which removes her need to work at some company where she can be ordered around by some asshole man. If it were legal then the religious fucks would have to find some other route to recruit people for God's army and helping keep the coffers filled.

The government only wants to exert control and tell people how to live their lives, exactly opposite of our fight for independence. Our real problem is our elected leaders run on platforms of faith constantly and that appeals to the bible thumpers who then turn out in mass and vote to help further their agenda.

Has anyone considered what would religious fuckers do with their time if they actually managed to get everyone "saved"? They would not have anything to rail against or protest. Not to mention what a fucking boring world this would be.

I take it you're a whore then?

How much for a fat, sweaty old man to fuck your pussy while he's drunk and using you like a piece of meat?

I'm not religious at all and I find religion laughable.

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12-21-2009, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by Twistys Tim

It makes no sense to prosecute people in victimless crimes. If a woman wants to have sex with a man for money, and the man wants to pay -- then where is the problem?

Agreed !!!

They have just changed the law here again and now if i stop my car to even enquire about a prostitutes 'services' i can be jailed!

Idiotic! In saying that, these decisions are usually made by 50 year old lesbians with nothing better to do...

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12-21-2009, 10:17 AM

What bothers me most about this post is the assumption that most women do it for fun and enjoyment. I also hate being lumped into your group of men who use them since I do not and actually feel pity for those guys who can't find their own GF for relief rather than abusing someone who either is forced or isn't "all there". Upsets me to no end when I hear guys brag about hookers - I'd rather brag about having a decent wife or GF who makes love for love and not for the love of money.

Prostitution from my understanding is either forced through pimps - economy - mental issues or drug related. I do not support the legalization because for all that is said - our society is going down the tubes over lack of morality and ethics. Scream at me all you want but allowing someone to do whatever they want to do is wrong. Guidelines need to be put in place so we can co-exist together. We have a responsibility to our future generations to lay the foundation for a positive society rather than a demoralized one.

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12-21-2009, 10:21 AM

Another reason why America's laws are fucked up. Just go to a civilized country where you can't get thrown in jail for buying some vag, and problem solved!

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12-21-2009, 10:24 AM

it's is legal, you just have to call yourself an escort.

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12-21-2009, 10:24 AM

Victimless crime? Please... Whores do not run a business, they run a cock and cum shop and nothing else.

They are victims over and through, with pimps, drugs, daddy, it's not like whores don't get killed off, rapped, or forced into sex rings.

If you legalized it here, I would pimp women. Men are dumb enough to pay for pussy, and I'm smart enough to connect them for a fee, if it was legal.

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12-21-2009, 10:27 AM

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Once the older baby boomer generation dies off it might be possible but you still would have the bible thumping Christians to fight.

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12-21-2009, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by TheLegacy

What bothers me most about this post is the assumption that most women do it for fun and enjoyment. I also hate being lumped into your group of men who use them since I do not and actually feel pity for those guys who can't find their own GF for relief rather than abusing someone who either is forced or isn't "all there". Upsets me to no end when I hear guys brag about hookers - I'd rather brag about having a decent wife or GF who makes love for love and not for the love of money.

Prostitution from my understanding is either forced through pimps - economy - mental issues or drug related. I do not support the legalization because for all that is said - our society is going down the tubes over lack of morality and ethics. Scream at me all you want but allowing someone to do whatever they want to do is wrong. Guidelines need to be put in place so we can co-exist together. We have a responsibility to our future generations to lay the foundation for a positive society rather than a demoralized one.

What someone wants to do is their private business -- as long as everyone is a consenting adult. The problem with applying morality to personal and private behavior, is that most morality originates from religions doctrine. I do not know about you, but I do not want to be lectured or governed by anyone who believes in a magical and imaginary wizard running the entire universe.

Now regarding prostitution and drugs -- the reason most women who have a drug problem get involved in prostitution is because they need money. They are then condemned as a criminal for having a clinical dependency and for needed the money for supply that dependency. If society were smart enough to say, hey -- instead of buying your drugs from drug dealers, we will give you your drugs for free, then society would be spared the following; needing to investigate drug crimes, needing to prosecute drug offenders, needing to incarcerate drug offenders, needing to waste literally billions of dollars on fighting drug wars they cannot win, and dealing with drug addicts as people having a medical condition that needs treatment, as opposed to a criminal to be prosecuted.

The same goes for property crime. If I have a drug problem, the only reason I am stealing cars, etc. is to get money for drugs. If the drugs are free -- then there is no need to steal cars.

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12-21-2009, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by TheLegacy

What bothers me most about this post is the assumption that most women do it for fun and enjoyment. I also hate being lumped into your group of men who use them since I do not and actually feel pity for those guys who can't find their own GF for relief rather than abusing someone who either is forced or isn't "all there". Upsets me to no end when I hear guys brag about hookers - I'd rather brag about having a decent wife or GF who makes love for love and not for the love of money.

Prostitution from my understanding is either forced through pimps - economy - mental issues or drug related. I do not support the legalization because for all that is said - our society is going down the tubes over lack of morality and ethics. Scream at me all you want but allowing someone to do whatever they want to do is wrong. Guidelines need to be put in place so we can co-exist together. We have a responsibility to our future generations to lay the foundation for a positive society rather than a demoralized one.

Prostitution isn't always forced. For some it is a choice to make easy and more money than they could at a 40 hour week job. There are those who get in to it for the wrong reasons (pimp, bf, drugs, etc...)

What the fuck about morality? Morality has a religion base to it. Morality is defined by the majority in a society and perceived to be "normal". It was moral and normal in this country to own a black slave. It was once moral and normal to marry and fuck a 12 year old girl and keep her barefoot and pregnant. If the majority of society supported those, it would in fact become the norm again. Look at porn. It is no longer that taboo subject peddled out of theater houses or back alleys.

But to play the game, just who would you allow to define what is moral and ethical? The fact is no one is capable of doing so which is why you have laws to dictate what is permissible, not always acceptable.

But to tell people that they should not be allowed to do something that does not harm someone else is fucking STUPID. You are essentially making a case for the critics of adult. Why does your opinion of what is moral or ethical more important than some religious fuck? The guidelines were in place, its called the fucking Constitution. The Constitution has eroded the rights of its citizens ever since its inception allowing people to impose their will and beliefs on those that differ. It is not OUR responsibility to lay any fucking foundation for the future other than providing a foundation to make a choice in their pursuit of happiness.

Remember, everything you enjoy today was once criticized and railed against. Freedom is defined by having the free will to act and behave as you wish in your pursuit of happiness provided it does not harm or result in harm anyone else during and after pursuit. But as you closed, couldn't one argue that by your involvement in adult, you are contributing to the demoralization of society?
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12-21-2009, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by TheDoc

Victimless crime? Please... Whores do not run a business, they run a cock and cum shop and nothing else.

They are victims over and through, with pimps, drugs, daddy, it's not like whores don't get killed off, rapped, or forced into sex rings.

If you legalized it here, I would pimp women. Men are dumb enough to pay for pussy, and I'm smart enough to connect them for a fee, if it was legal.

Do you get more sexist as you grow older? Prostitutes provide a service and their clients determine if the service they provide are worth the cost, just like porn. So lemme get what you are saying. A woman who sells her sex is a whore, but a porn producer that sells a woman having sex is ok? God you're fucking retarded.

Think about this for a moment dumb shit. IF a woman cannot determine that she has a right to trade her services for compensation, this entire industry would cease to exist.
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12-21-2009, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by fmltube

Do you get more sexist as you grow older? Prostitutes provide a service and their clients determine if the service they provide are worth the cost, just like porn. So lemme get what you are saying. A woman who sells her sex is a whore, but a porn producer that sells a woman having sex is ok? God you're fucking retarded.

Think about this for a moment dumb shit. IF a woman cannot determine that she has a right to trade her services for compensation, this entire industry would cease to exist.

So how much to fuck your sweet mouth?

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12-21-2009, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by fmltube

Do you get more sexist as you grow older? Prostitutes provide a service and their clients determine if the service they provide are worth the cost, just like porn. So lemme get what you are saying. A woman who sells her sex is a whore, but a porn producer that sells a woman having sex is ok? God you're fucking retarded.

Think about this for a moment dumb shit. IF a woman cannot determine that she has a right to trade her services for compensation, this entire industry would cease to exist.

Aye, "EXTREMELY" different... if you can't see that, you're lack any brains. Let's just go with the simplest facts, STD checks, age verification, clean/sanitary environment... I can easily keep going.

The problem is most whores, do not determine what rights she has, someone else makes those choice for her or already has. Almost no Prostitute sells her pussy 'because it's the cool thing to do or because they just like to fuck.' That is total bullshit.

Your entire gay ass statement about sexist and female choice, is straight up stupid.

99% of all prostitutes, would give it up in a second if they knew they could walk away clean and have a life.

REAL Whores, that love to fuck, love cock... don't sell it - they give it up to fast to sell it.

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