I was just having a discussion with Brazzers and I was looking to get the GFY opinion. The content is old but the traffic is 100% SEO. Is 0:5138 reasonable?
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Tageted traffic should get you 1:1000 at worst. That's if you know what you're doing, and who you promote are not fucktards.Comment
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maybe your terms and landing pages suck ass.Comment
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Doesnt tell me much.
You can have 100% se traffic if you seo'd it for pissing girls, while having a gay site on it. Or promoting granny programs with it.
Either way, if i had those conversions i would leave and try something else the same second. And that isnt necessarily brazzers fault.Comment
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country of origin? that's more important than the source.Comment
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brazzers? i am at 1:1920 this year but at the start i was feeding them with mixed shit ...Comment
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try sending it to yessignalsIcq: 31706665Comment
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That's okay...I'm 0:9150 with Brazbucks from SE traffic.
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Brazzers is everywhere and oversaturated. Every surfer in the world is aware of them. So trying to sell them isn't gonna work. They are victims of their own sucess as far as affiliates are concerned.
I'm assuming you are sending big tit traffic. Try something else. Give us a try, or Score, or Rachel Aziani. Trying to sell that L.A. same old, same old girls that Brazzers shoots over and over is the problem for you. There are sites that better serve guys who like big tits.
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I don't get why "SEO traffic" is supposed to mean something special... Doesn't all traffic basically start at a search engine in some form or another (maybe with the exception of some extremely generic typeins). Even bookmarker traffic had to find the site somehow originally.
A google hit for "tranny porn" IMO is no higher quality than someone landing on a hub page and clicking a link called "tranny porn".Comment
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For Brazzers, yes, that ratio is reasonable even with SEO traffic. Brazzers web sites are the most over-exposed and over-saturated on the internet (as far as adult paysites are concerned.) That is why they convert poorly. I remember 2 - 3 years ago, before Tube8 and Pornhub, their sites converted very well. Not anymore.Last edited by SomeCreep; 12-18-2009, 11:07 AM.Comment
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there is seo traffic and seo traffic ... and i think people who are working with seo traffic when post about seo traffic dont mean traffic from baidu
and traffic from google for "tranny porn" is of course much more valuated, cause its what the user exactly wants, if he click from hub page, he is driven there from who knows there and clicks cause he is only curious ... 
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HDR converted awesome for me. So awesome they banned me for converting too well after only a half a dozen or so sales. No shit, they figured I was fucking them somehow. I was doing like 1:5 or something like that. I was promoting them via HDPornTrials.com with most of my traffic coming from terms like "$1 Porn" and "cheap porn trials". Of course it was converting well. Even the network didn't believe the ratios. Fucking idiots...
Regardless of that little issue, I'd still say go promote them. Their sites sold very well, and seeing ratios like that, it's pretty hard to accuse anyone of shaving...
Silvercash and Python converted very well on that site too. Not quite those ratios, but not far off either. Then during a server move something fucked up and I lost the whole site. If I were to start promoting adult again, that would be the first domain I started rebuilding on...Last edited by Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life; 12-18-2009, 11:53 AM.Comment
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even seo needs to be targetted and filtered....
these ratios still exist
these sites that send traffic here start with only 1K a day...and filtered down to less than 50 a day to the sposnor
the rest are sent away to freebiesLast edited by MikeFold; 12-18-2009, 12:01 PM.nothing to promoteComment
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It's filtered then...but you're sending it to wrong target. if they are searching for a specific pornstar name and you're seeing traffic, my advice is to send it to that particular pornstar site (if they have one) or a site that has many scenes on the individual.
sending to a huge network is giving them too many "outs" not to buy, if it was value traffic i'd send there or traffic that wants particular scenes/themes. pornstar traffic converts well (looks like you may know this already with what you are doing)
i actually did the same thing this week as you did, wasted alot of traffic but it proved my theory i took a sponsor i convert with seo traffic on 1:90 and threw at it teen traffic...500k+ raw (230k on monday) it converted horribly and this was my best conversion ratio based sponsor also...so it really isn't the program or site, it's the traffic
sending filtered traffic to a giant network is diluting it.Last edited by RTP; 12-18-2009, 01:11 PM.Jimmy James
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You guys are insane, I drop a sponsor if I convert less than 1:500.
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as the rest of people say here its reasonable. you can have 100% original content and still convert bad, since their stuff is everywhere.
i still think if sponsors gave only 50 percent of what they give now, they would be in better position, 0:5000 speak for itself...of course they have most traffic, but most traffic doesnt mean more bucks...Comment
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Get better keywords. 0:5k is simply horrendous on SE traffic.
WGI play with Google.Comment
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Guess its the traffic and old sites. I dont send much but I am @ 1:415 for Mofos this year.
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Mine stats were so bad I stopped to check them a while ago... and my traffic dropped to about 1000 uniques/ month... they blocked free content area so I can't promote them and I am not sure if I want... I am pretty sure they don't need small affiliates like me and my 10k-50k uniques a month since they own tubes that bring them millions uniques every hourComment
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