Gotta give Sleazy credit, the design is slightly better than sleazydream.com , and look how much of a hit that was.

Two Fitty.......... one ... ;) YesSignals.com - :thumbsup:thumbsup

While at my little grocery store, the girl when bagging flashed the inside of her wrists. I thought, "wow thanks for those yes signals". lol

We all have to start talking about yes signals right Sleazy. :)

Maybe you're targeting the wrong sex.. lol

Even I know if I mention the words "yes signals" ouside of this computer around other hetero men I might need a bodygaurd along. lol

And yes I purposely refuse to say the g*y word. :) lol

Another fail to add to this tub of lards books

that's ok will76 - it's safer to poke at people when you can't get poked back..


we all knew you were a coward anyway :thumbsup

Couldn't have said it better myself.

it's actually why I bought the bar... just got in over my head


for anyone to say a site is perfect would be like flashing a moron sign on your head - all good sites evolve in ways some can see and some you can't see.

the only way to know if a site is good or not is testing.

a ton of the design comment are person taste issues and not really relevant. some are good though.

for people to say it's horrible without knowing any testing honestly says a LOT about them. Pretty much says they are a total moron. I'm laughing my head off today at just how stupid many are. Also i'm seeing a lot of good ideas I plan to implement too though as well.

Some sites work in some places and not in others so one person not getting sales really isn't a definitive answer. I could never make any real money from cams - others made piles.

I've never put any weight into conversion ratios - they are a million ways to fuck with them so the end of day it's just - did you make money with it? I'll try to not engage in those conversations.

you're absolutly right on the idea that no one knows if this will work, including me. these same people would say sleazydream or ultrawired sex wouldn't work yet both made millions....

i got a lot of what i'm looking for from this thread and am happy.

bottem line is, as long as I can pay the bills with this and ENJOY working with it - I'm good! I'll scale it as far as I can. I like the concept and as long as some surfers do and a few pay i'm good.

I do have a lot of haters and jealous people, this thread makes that very obvious. It's not just critique - but raw shear HATRED from many...These same people would shit on a lottery site that guaranteed winning numbers and worked lol-

Secret testing would come out here anyway with the stalkers I have so i might as well do it myself.


i weighed the idea of launching or not - i said I'd release the site name wed - if i didn't they would have shit on me for that too. Hoping for visa any day now.....


thanks for the kind words

did i miss the part where sleazy asked for advices?

There ya go.

Anyhow forgot to add j/k. Thx for letting me have fun. And yes I will send some hits once you're up. I like promoting diff stuff, sell or not. And ya know what..

..can't find your stuff on the tubes. :thumbsup

OK I'm out of your thread and off this fricken time consuming board. :)

you're a bright guy but saying you know if a site will convert or not on tubes definitively really isn't smart. Honestly you don't' know. I don't know either. I thought you were brighter than that.

this might piss you off but i'll be honest here.
i thought your stuff would convert with my tgp, you've been in it forever and know your stuff. not trying to shit on you but it's in the bottem 10% of the stuff I usually use for conversions, honestly the conversions are bad. really bad. yet you have some of the best looking galleries and women on the net. without a doubt, your content is amazing and your designs are exactly what everyone shitting on me here says I need to be doing.

I'll still use it cause the girls are amazing and it's good clean content. Actually probably the best looking galleries I've scene in ages and seriously some of the best on the net. You're an honest guy and the sites do not rip people off. I believe good content brings people back to my site. I think a lot of your affiliates are using you for the same reason as that too - as well I'm sure there are places where you're the best sponsor as well that someone uses. I don't always post the sites that make the most money - I like good stuff, even if it isn't hugely profitable and one of the lowest paying ones.

I'll will be updating content, but I cannot afford new content at this moment. I'm running with what i got. I lost everything and am starting over. I'm pretty proud of what I scrapped together here with no cash. I have to start somewhere. The site is specifically designed to grow.

thank you for the comments and I'm sorry if I burst a bubble or anything....you DO have great stuff and i appreciate the comments

This is getting brutal, Scott what is the product your selling? If it's advice on body signals why would someone pay $30 for this when all you have to do is google body signals and get all the info you need for free? Yet alone rebill and spend $30 a month for it. Hell man paysite networks with 1000 to 10000 full movie scenes in the members area are having hard times retaining. If you think adding 1 new movie a day to a $30 a month paysite is gonna do anything but generate massive chargebacks your crazy man. Scott think like a surfer, a cheap ass surfer cause thats what they all are nowadays. How many google searches a day are there for body language? Body language is pretty cut, dry and simple, you dont need a book about it to understand it. It's not a ongoing $30 a month product. I'm sure people have written full books on body language but who needs this much info about body language man? Maybe shrinks and lawyers, not the average surfer cruising websites with his dick in one hand trying to find something to get a nut off to. Man surfers are NOT gonna bookmark your site if you add a new movie every day. Why would they bookmark your site with one new movie a day when they can go to a tube with 500 new movies everyday? And your movies are comical man, they are not jerk off material. The text you flash showing what the signal the girl is putting out is comical, sorry but it is. I can't jerk off to this. Why would i bookmark it? How many new bookies have you gotten on sleazydream in the last year Scott? Surfers don't bookmark sites unless they have a shitload of good free porn man. If you were to replicate sleazydream today and start from scratch it wouldn't work man. Your bookies from years ago are whats keeping your site going. I was anti gay sites forever until recently. Why not make a legal gay tube site man? Gay is wide open like straight was 10 years ago.

thank you.


at the end of the day


it's really mostly about marketing.

Choker - this seems to be really hitting a cord with you... interesting.....


have fun with you gay sites....nothing wrong with that. It's not for me though.

i've never been all about the money

i think choker is jealous maybe.

ya think?:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I can understand people who like the site and people who don't like the site. What I don't get is the people who come in here trying to convince others to not like it. :helpme

Ok dude I'm out of here, your ego will be the end of you. I try to give you advice and a idea other than this stupid fucking idea you came up with. I tried being nice hell I was about to post that I'll give you a $500 gay domain name and $500 of taffic to get it going. But you know what man? This retarded body signal idea of yours proves that you are a one hit wonder. You made sleazydream at the time anyone could have made a 500k a day free site in months. I felt so sorry for you when you icqed me this url and asked me to comment on it in that post you started. I didn't post in that thread cause I'm not one of your ass kissing bros, I'm a straight shooter always have been always will. If I would have posted in that thread it would have been my honest opinion and I ddint want t orain on your parade. Your site and idea is beyond stupid Scott. I see nothing good about this site or idea, it's beyond fucking stupid. I've had ideas that were WAY DUMBER than yours but I restrained my ego enough to not tell everyone on GFY about it so they could praise me before I even tested it myself. It seems your life and self esteem revolves around what your bros think of you on this board. The fact that this is a stupid fucking idea does not mean you are stupid, we all have stupid ideas, MINE ARE BEYOND BEYOND BEYOND stupid, but I don't spend all day on GFY trying to build up expectations before I even beta test my ideas. I have failed at 90% of the shit I have tried, I am no better than anyone else on this board, but Lets see how much traffic your bros will throw at this site of yours. My wife laughed for 30 minutes after watching one of the videos on your tour, shes a surfer not a webmaster and the site confused the fuck out of her. This thread has totally destroyed your reputation dude. People are laughing at you now, not with you.

jealous of what man? You are being sarcastic I hope.

Oh well, in the end It all comes down to if It sells or not, I'd need better design, more sales pitches, a clear explanation of what's in for the members and a much better join page. Exclusive shot amateur content for the site would help a lot too. The concept is good and could sell, especially as members area upsell or with dating traffic.

i started reading that but it got kinda whinny..... can you post the cliff notes???

Yeah, he basically said the site and idea blows huge donkey cock.

This will go down in GFY history as a Epic fail

is that Bigger than a Horse cock?:upsidedow

You know Scott I have been racking my brain trying to figure out ways to help you, seriously. But after your attitude towards me and others, man your fucking hopeless. Your ego is your problem. You got the balls to tell Shap he's not smart for saying something won't sell on tube sites? Are you fucking crazy? He has a 1 mill a day tube site don't you think he would have a eye for what will sell and what won't? Man you are a total fucking idiot. Seriously

It already has.

that's what i thought - and something about paying me to join him with gay sex........i duno i got creeped out and stopped reading

i just watched one of the videos, i didnt even realize that this was a porn site (due to the bad design). this concept is even worse than i thought. why would someone spend $30 a month when they could easily just bought this:

http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Boo...1089499&sr=8-1

For those saying blah blah blah why would someone pay etc etc.

Why do people pay for music? Why do people pay for movies? People do so because that's what people do. The world isn't a bunch of educated, know-how-to-Google wizkids who want the best of everything. The 'world' are vastly unknowing as to how 'the internets' work. People pay for stuff because they like to see shit. Sure - someone can Google pickup tips and get a nice page from about.com explaining a few things - that's not what this is about.

Sleazy; I think you've hit a chord knowingly or not. I don't think you've made the idea 'sexy' for the following reason but if you have - I commend you. When I person sees this site and makes a correlation between those pickup signals and naked girls something sparks. It's a melodramatic system of producing proof that body signals work. Either way - I think it could well pay off with all the suggestions put forward in this thread.

i think gay sites will work really good for you - you seem to be a pro at sucking cock

the sites not perfect - it will be tweaked as time goes on. I'm on a budget now is all...


but look at the emotion in this thread- good and bad.

emotion sells above ANYTHING and EVERYTHING ELSE - whether it's good or bad emotion. it trumps all in the sales world. spark emotion and out comes the wallet.

i'm happier than shit right now!!!!!!!!!!

my god - i hope no one finds that link

i'll be sunk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

concept is ok man...if it was custom shot or filmed by you or someone from that perspective it would be a whole different story. design wise it is hurting.

shap gave the best advice, really.

:2 cents:

I'm hoping I can speak for many in saying that we hope you heed the advice. You seem like a nice guy and it'd be a shame for those few who construct their criticism so negatively to get the better of you.

They are doing great thanks for asking. Good luck with everything.

:2 cents:

wish you all best though

my point is theres a big demand for the knowledge of body language, and theres also a big demand for people who want to jerk off to a girl getting fucked. but i dont think anyone is going to want to learn about body language when they're jerking off. dont take my word for it, check your stats 3 months from now and see how big of a failure you are, i predict this one to be as bad as your club.

checking the site out, I still don't get what you are actually selling. Also is this a porn site or advice site or what is it? I don't even see why to join and I checked out quite a few pages.

He won't have any stats in three months. If the members area reflects the tour I would guess it has maybe 20 movies inside and 10 pages of text. If a surfer is stupid enough to signup and pay, he won't be stupid enough to see that he got ripped and charge back. The charge back ratio on a site like this? think about it.

he did get some good advice in this thread. like from bv. if he takes that into consideration he will do ok.

actually only 17 - but i'm adding one or two every day so in 3 months there will be more than 100......

this is the best advice someone could give sleazy:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...oto/EmoCut.jpg

http://www.scoutingresources.org.uk/...rescue_001.jpg

Well, at least this thread is pretty good filler drama/entertainment while waiting for Dirty D to post... :1orglaugh

Personally, I think your Easy Dater website looks better aesthetically, even though it basically has similar kind of content.

How is that site doing for you?

Finally, just curious, you don't have a cruise planned in the next few days, do you? :winkwink:

ADG

I love how people try to help and offer some real constructive criticism but this thick headed moron can't put his ego in check for 2 minutes to even see that those he's calling haters and trolls are the only ones offering good feedback.

Save your breath and just let him wallow in his own shit. If you think it's going to fail, just sit back let it fail and revel in that when it happens. Unless you are going to lick his ass or give him some free content or traffic to use because he hasn't much more than a pot to piss in now...just step back and enjoy the show.

why on earth are people comparing me to DirtyD?

that I really dont' get?


i'm going to be implementing many of the suggestions in this thread. I'd be the idiot if i took all of them. there are some good ones, bad ones, REALLY bad ones from some morons, and lots of unrelated crap.....

to be expected....

BV had some great advise that i am implementing - playing with a new new join page options now actually....

CCbill approved a paysite with only 17 movies in it? holy shit

sleazy, when did this idea come to you?

I don't take that negatively in any way. I'm very well aware of where we fall short. I know what sources of traffic we fail to convert well and where we need to improve. If I had my way it would all be doing much better right now. Unfortunately nothing ever moves at the speed I wish it did. That said as I'm sure you know with every project it is a work in progress.

I'm not god and I don't know all. But if I had to put $10 on whether this site would sell well on tubes I'd have to say it wouldn't. I'm basing that on the tube traffic we own, the tube traffic we buy, and the tube traffic we research. I think this site could have had some success in the TGP and gallery maker affiliate days. Those days are long gone. Compared to what is being pushed today and pushed hard this doesn't match up to it. I'm not saying my sites do. My sites aren't the subject of the thread. I'm just providing my two cents based on what I've learned.