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MetaMan · 12-17-2009, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ruff

Tough crowd here. I'm gonna promote it. If it sells, good for me, if it doesn't, I'll try something different. I'm sure with all the constructive advice from everyone here that Sleazy will tweak his site with all the great new ideas proffered.

stfu you fake idiot.

GeXus · 12-17-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ruff

Tough crowd here. I'm gonna promote it. If it sells, good for me, if it doesn't, I'll try something different. I'm sure with all the constructive advice from everyone here that Sleazy will tweak his site with all the great new ideas proffered.

Don't be so naive please

The King of Pop · 12-17-2009, 12:49 PM

Pipecrew · 12-17-2009, 12:53 PM

I think the full length videos being shown for free are going to generate traffic to the site but negatively impact the signups.

JFK · 12-17-2009, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by datatank

Now there a spin on this site that COULD actually convert.
I will gaurantee $1000 that if you made a tour with that as the angle you will WAY out convert that thing you have now

The concept is great but the marketing you have now leaves SO SO SO much out.

Hi I am Scott and allow me to let you in on the secret I learned while owning a bar.

I watched men try to pick up women every single night for 5 years.

Blah blah blah..

YOU get the point.
You need personality to make this a success. Not 1980's content and poor crop jobs.

Good luck

GOOD Idea

grumpy · 12-17-2009, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GeXus

Here you go.... Maybe replace your landing page with this... should clear things up for people

haha...you dont get it either.

GeXus · 12-17-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew

I think the full length videos being shown for free are going to generate traffic to the site but negatively impact the signups.

That's quite the observation there buddy. U stupid too?

Penthouse Tony · 12-17-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

you probally need to update your flash player...........

it says the below when i try to play a video:

Video not found:

http://www.yessignals.com:8080/movies/MovieNo12.flv

will76 · 12-17-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan

Tell us why it will fail here. I dont get why people care so HARD For peoples free minds and businesses.

That's business 101.-

Nah... it's Life 101.

I used to be concerned for what
other people do til i
met a woman with great
aspects on living through
Zero stress.

Tell you why it will fail? I already posted several reasons why I think it will. Why people care for other people? I dunno, just thought I was being nice and trying to help. I have no idea what the rest of your post means.

Rice_Master · 12-17-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GeXus

That's quite the observation there buddy. U stupid too?

pipe made a good point man, why put everything on the tour? you're giving everything away, why the fuck would i sign up for this shit, even if it's low quality, im still able to watch some free porn and learn some yes signals

GeXus · 12-17-2009, 12:59 PM

lol.. view source on his pages... It looks like it was literally done in the EARLY 90's...

Is this really the quality people are doing? It's fucking horrid.. Sleazy, what did you pay for this site? Few grand? Couple hundred bucks?

GeXus · 12-17-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rice_Master

pipe made a good point man, why put everything on the tour? you're giving everything away, why the fuck would i sign up for this shit, even if it's low quality, im still able to watch some free porn and learn some yes signals

#1: The "full length" videos, aren't exactly a huge attraction piece.. I didn't even notice them first time through. The day's of build it and they will come, are well over buddy.

#2: The reason people won't sign up, has nothing to do with the "full length" videos. It has to do with people not wanting to sign up to a black hole.

FabianC · 12-17-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

someone find me the thread where a "bro" was saying how great the site looks etc etc. i want to own that guy.

First Review of my new project - Quiet

Most everyone touched on the "concept" being sorta unique but spiked their replies with too much 'bro' juice ... some of you should be ashamed of yourselves ...

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Originally Posted by Warren

Captivating and mesmerizing at the same time, this is good, really good!

Congrats Scott

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Originally Posted by corvette

i like it, its very subtle

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Originally Posted by Raja

As consultants we are very often shown new products that the creator swears is the next big thing, most often the investors have ripped off the latest popular site and thinks he's going to make millions of dollars. While Sleazy's idea might not have Brazzers loosing sleep. The site has absolutely zero competition and is based on a market that Sleazy has already dominated. We are itching to throw some traffic at it.

Congrats Sleazy and in the words of LL "Don't call it a comeback, I've been here for years"

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Originally Posted by andrew.r

Well sleazy i have got to give it to you unique concept dude and i have not seen anything like it before on the net, you definately get the thumbs up from us here buddy. I hope it works out for you and I am sure it will

nice one man

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Very different and unique. I like the concept and idea and its something i'm surprised hasn't been done before, at least to the extent you're doing. Should do quite well once its officially launched.
WG

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I like it. In fact, the more I think about it I love it.

I've seen similar products, but no one's ever thought of putting it on line in a website.

It might just be Brilliant really.

I honestly believe in the next six months we'll see two dozen copy cats.

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Oh, I should add in I'll be sending traffic to it.

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Originally Posted by baddog

Wow. At first I was thinking the domain name wasn't very keyword friendly, and as a result probably went in there with a negative attitude.

However, after going in a little deeper and understanding the past success of sites pushing this niche, I have to think you have a winner here.

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Originally Posted by LizAEBN

Sleazy, this is good stuff.

It's a really nice take on [redacted] and should clear up a lot of the [redacted] about [redacted].

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Originally Posted by TheStout

The mystery hooked me. Good job Scott. Other than a few minor design things I think the site is a good idea. Good luck man. The name is catchy

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Originally Posted by Stuntpig

I like it and I think it will do very well.
And yes, Im a total bro.

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Originally Posted by Trixxxia

I just took a look. I think it's a smart twist on a similar niche and judging from how those convert, I think this will do very well for you Scott!

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Originally Posted by JFK

Excellent idea, should work GREAT, best of luck with it

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Originally Posted by webgurl

this is great concept for members upsell , i have not seen anything like this
quite yet . Goodluck on this venture !!

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Originally Posted by Tam

Ok, I just took a look at the site and I have to say, this is going to soar, seriously.

All in all, I give this a huge thumbs up and I think you may have just hit something that has been looked for for a very long time. A REAL place like this, not just a movie.

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Originally Posted by D-Money

I can see you doing very well with this. I was thinking what J$tyle$ said, mainstream. Make a facebookable version. It will also be very googleable.

And definitely marketable.

GeXus · 12-17-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FabianC

First Review of my new project - Quiet

Most everyone touched on the "concept" being sorta unique but spiked their replies with too much 'bro' juice ... some of you should be ashamed of yourselves ...

Going down those quotes... It's like going down a list and checking off "Moron". "Noob".. "Sucking Dick".. "Moron" etc...

I love baddogs "At first I thought it wasn't very keyword friendly...." gimme a break dip shit...

will76 · 12-17-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

actually, i'm not going to.

there's a lot in there designed to gain traffic that most don't understand. ;)

so basically, and lets put this on the line here will76.... if I fail you are right.

what is the highest you've been on alexa will? 2000?

so if i do anything over your top alexa ranking by say June, lets see you put your money where your mouth is and fly my advertising in your signature for a month saying you were wrong and yessignals is amazing.

If I can't do 2000 on alexa by june - i'll fly any banner you want for 3 months.

or is that too scarry for you?

What in the fuck are you are talking about??? Success is not judged on how high you rank on alexa? In all the years I have been doing this I thought it was on sales and profit. Silly me. To be honest I don't think any of my sites ranked higher than about 50,000 in alexa, but I think I am safe to assume I've made more money than you. I dont deal with tgp traffic much, my traffic converts more like 1:200 not 1 out of 20,000. Hits mean shit... I am also an affiliate and advertise several niches. I don't own 1 big site and send all my traffic there.

So I offer you a bunch of advice, granted you didn't ask for it, but your response is "lets see who is right, who ever can get a site to an alexa rank of 2,000 by June will win".

What the fuck is wrong with you?

I don't care to be right. I am trying to help you. There are SEVERAL things wrong with your concept, and even more things wrong with your execution. This idea has a chance if done right, but no chance the way you did it. But I guess that doesn't mean anything to you because you have a site with a higher alexa ranking than me.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt that maybe you would come up with something good. Then I even gave you the benefit of the doubt that you would listen to feedback and try to improve it. Stupid me, now you have proved you are an idiot. If you really think yessignals will make you lots of money good luck trying and wasting your time.

I honestly had to read down a couple post before replying to make sure this thread wasn't a joke.

you might see all of this as me being a dick or whatever. The people telling you it looks great you will do well are the dicks...

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Originally Posted by FabianC

Part of me thinks Sleazy may be fucking with everyone & this is an elaborate joke?

That is what I thought originally too when i saw the mid 90's look. I even read down a bunch of replies to see if it was a joke but he appears to be serious with this.

xNetworx · 12-17-2009, 01:07 PM

The quotes by Sleazy's friends above seem borderline dilusional now. Scary stuff.

MetaMan · 12-17-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FabianC

First Review of my new project - Quiet

Most everyone touched on the "concept" being sorta unique but spiked their replies with too much 'bro' juice ... some of you should be ashamed of yourselves ...

it's like what Pleasurepays said earlier in this thread. fake people with their fake lives. it is really sad. and not in a sad loser way, sad for humanity that people just smile in eachothers faces instead of being open and honest and actually helping someone out.

when i have something in my teeth i dont want the type of friends that wont tell me i have something in my teeth. some people walk through their entire lives without knowing they have something in their teeth. i am almost want to have pity on those people, but those types the way they act alot of times bring it on themselves where people feel they cannot be honest with them.

when my "friend" or even acquaintance is going down a wrong path i will step up and even put myself on the line. id rather look like an asshole and tell the truth ALWAYS. i expect people to do the same for me.

i will never listen to any of those peoples input. they are all an embarrassment including the successful ones.

maxjohan · 12-17-2009, 01:10 PM

Will76 is the one richer than SleazyDreams.

Adult millionaires who spend their time on Educate the
GFY community. Will get none but air back from it.

This time could be spend on doing productive work, earn money and
meet up with real friends.

Even women they kno w there are no reason to ever put in an argument.

It's completely meaningless to have an opinion on a messageboard online. Because it is.

Will76 is a millionaire, he knows his stuff. Allright.

Nobody cares. Not on this Messageboard.
Unless if you have you have friends on this board.

That's my advice.
On the Will76 and living good. [To Keep A Clean Mind And In Shape]

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Originally Posted by lagcam

You do this in many threads, the original camgirls thread being a prime example, whereby because your opinions fell on deaf ears you resorted to personal abuse of the guy (which remember was BEFORE his issues became known) and there have been others, but I am too lazy to go on a quote fest for you.

Agent 488 · 12-17-2009, 01:11 PM

he called me an idiot for saying his bro reviews weren't going to what he needed to hear. they would be nice. "do i look fat in these pants?"

Brujah · 12-17-2009, 01:12 PM

It's easy to predict failure, because there are more failures than successes. It doesn't make any of you psychic or great businessmen, it's just playing the odds. You'll end up right most of the time. You have to ignore naysayers and haters and take the risks required to pursue your ideas.

There's this story about Edison. "He saw every failure as a success. The story goes that he failed 10,000 times in his storage battery experiments. But Edison said, "Why, I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.""

FabianC · 12-17-2009, 01:12 PM

Smart money is on 1 of 2 scenarios;

1. This is a "just for fun" PR stunt and Sleazy is laughing at everyone in this thread. If so, bravo!!

2. This is a "financial" PR stunt which only Sleazy & his lawyers will know for sure and was born out of his bankruptcy proceedings (People do weird shit all the time during divorces & bankruptcies to avoid paying $$) ... in which case bravo again!! (and probably something he can't legally confirm)

GeXus · 12-17-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

What in the fuck are you are talking about??? Success is not judged on how high you rank on alexa? In all the years I have been doing this I thought it was on sales and profit. Silly me. To be honest I don't think any of my sites ranked higher than about 50,000 in alexa, but I think I am safe to assume I've made more money than you. I dont deal with tgp traffic much, my traffic converts more like 1:200 not 1 out of 20,000. Hits mean shit... I am also an affiliate and advertise several niches. I don't own 1 big site and send all my traffic there.

So I offer you a bunch of advice, granted you didn't ask for it, but your response is "lets see who is right, who ever can get a site to an alexa rank of 2,000 by June will win".

What the fuck is wrong with you?

I don't care to be right. I am trying to help you. There are SEVERAL things wrong with your concept, and even more things wrong with your execution. This idea has a chance if done right, but no chance the way you did it. But I guess that doesn't mean anything to you because you have a site with a higher alexa ranking than me.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt that maybe you would come up with something good. Then I even gave you the benefit of the doubt that you would listen to feedback and try to improve it. Stupid me, now you have proved you are an idiot. If you really think yessignals will make you lots of money good luck trying and wasting your time.

I honestly had to read down a couple post before replying to make sure this thread wasn't a joke.

you might see all of this as me being a dick or whatever. The people telling you it looks great you will do well are the dicks...

That is what I thought originally too when i saw the mid 90's look. I even read down a bunch of replies to see if it was a joke but he appears to be serious with this.

Careful will, He is right. I did some recon and found that he has the following code to "gain traffic".

<meta name="Description" content="Body language gestures used by women for seductive courting explained by women to teach men how to pick up women." />
<meta name="Keywords" content="flirt, seduction, seduce, body language, flirting, how to pick up" />
<meta name="robots" content="index, follow" />
<meta name="revisit-after" content="1 days" />

The above code is known to overload servers due to the amount of traffic it brings in, be careful if you this... I'm not developer so I can decipher it, but maybe you know someone who can... Tricky stuff sleazy.. you sly dog you!

MetaMan · 12-17-2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

It's easy to predict failure, because there are more failures than successes. It doesn't make any of you psychic or great businessmen, it's just playing the odds. You'll end up right most of the time. You have to ignore naysayers and haters and take the risks required to pursue your ideas.

There's this story about Edison. "He saw every failure as a success. The story goes that he failed 10,000 times in his storage battery experiments. But Edison said, "Why, I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.""

you are so very wrong.

if someone had already invented the battery storage and came to thomas edison and told him step by step how to do it he would be an idiot not to take the input.

unless you are re inventing the world there is no need to have 10 000 failures. it is better to open your mind and ears and listen to knowledge other people have.

but you choose not to be honest with what is so blatantly obvious. makes me think you are a fake person.

letitride · 12-17-2009, 01:19 PM

Scott, Let this experience show you who your real bros are. All those fat cat ballers posted comments that, looking back were nothing more than attempts at kissing your ass and telling you stuff you wanted to hear instead of things you NEEDED to hear. They are not your friends. On top of that they look like jackasses.

I will always respect the hell out of you for building up your TGP that way did. I sent a lot of money your way and you showed your love by partying my team out with a great meal and giving us helicopter rides a few years ago in Vegas. You are always nice and charming in person. A class act. The people telling you critical things should be listened to as they are speaking with passion- albeit, sometimes a little too much passion. Nevertheless, they are more valuable too you at this point. The new concept is lame. Nothing personal.

maxjohan · 12-17-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

I have no idea what the rest of your post means.

You should ask me, because you always have a strong opinion.

Mind your own business 100%, especially on a GFY board.

Don't get caught up in other peoples noise.

Do you Get what I am about?
Do you read newspapers with all types of crimes?

Why.

will76 · 12-17-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lagcam

Will, you generally give good advice, and I am sure that this case is no exception, but if you want people to take you more seriously, you have to stop taking yourself SO seriously.

You don't like the concept or the site, and don't think it will make money. It's your opinion. Others disagree, which means they are idiots or bro's right? Wrong.

You do this in many threads, the original camgirls thread being a prime example, whereby because your opinions fell on deaf ears you resorted to personal abuse of the guy (which remember was BEFORE his issues became known) and there have been others, but I am too lazy to go on a quote fest for you.

It's great that you take time to give advice to people, but remember they are under no obligation to take it, and if they decided to invest THEIR money in something then they have the right to do it the way they feel is right.

We already know sleazy has limited resources in his present situation so to get ANY site off the ground, let alone a seemingl original one, even with less than perfect content, is an achievement.....especially as he still finds time to post almost constant crap here

This is not a personal attack on you, but if you see it that way, up to you. I am actually trying to help you in the same way you try to help others. You "having 10 years cam experience and being available for consulting projects" makes me as a camsite owner a potential client for you, but regardless of how smart you may be, I think you come over as someone only open to his own opinion, which I don't think helps you find opportunities.

PS I am going on a 10 day cruise with no internet access immediately after this post, but I will leave the pc logged in in case my pet monkey has anything to add later

I'll be the first to admit when I am wrong. I genuinely try to help people, but when they pick fights with me, because they don;t like what I am telling them.... like in this thread being called a troll that has never made any money after I wasted 10 minutes tryign to give him good advice. yeah that tends to tick me off.

Do you understand that? I try to help, i get called a troll and then I fire back a few "idiot" comments. If he would just said nothing I would have never insulted him. I'm human, it pisses me off when you try to help someone and all t hey do is try to insult you because they didn't like what you had to say.

Since most people do that, and so I don't come across as cocky or whatever to everyone else, the best solution for me to do is not offer to help anyone.

It's a fault. To want to feel helpfull, I don't know why I feel compelled to do it. Maybe to to help them, to show I am knowledgable, I don't honestly know. But what I do know is that is seems to be a big waste of time.

Thanks for your constructive criticism, it made me stop and think, why the fuck am I even here wasting my time in the first place. These type of things seem to play out the same way over and over. Offer to help, get insulted by person you trying to help, I get a little personally by callign them an idiot... waste of time. Very few of these people ever listen anyway and only post to hear " wow thats great good luck" which there seems to be no shortages of that around here.

letitride · 12-17-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

The quotes by Sleazy's friends above seem borderline dilusional now. Scary stuff.

Indeed brother. Scary stuff.

Agent 488 · 12-17-2009, 01:20 PM

yeah but sleazy doesn't think he failure is a failure. he just think criticisms are from haters, trolls and broke losers,

you can't learn from failure if you don't admit you failed.

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Originally Posted by Brujah

It's easy to predict failure, because there are more failures than successes. It doesn't make any of you psychic or great businessmen, it's just playing the odds. You'll end up right most of the time. You have to ignore naysayers and haters and take the risks required to pursue your ideas.

There's this story about Edison. "He saw every failure as a success. The story goes that he failed 10,000 times in his storage battery experiments. But Edison said, "Why, I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.""

will76 · 12-17-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by quiet

yeah, it's kind of creepy how he always latches on to something and won't let go. almost always something negative to say too. weird.

Yeah you right I was bashing that livereviews new concept.

Complete opposite, I was raving how cool and innovative the idea was.... If see something good i say so, if not I tried to help with ideas on how to make it better. I felt bad for sleazy, yeah i really did and was trying to offer him help. But he resorts back to the same old, insulting people if he doesnt like what they say...

i'm out, giving this place a break for while.

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Originally Posted by will76

I actually watch the whole 5 mins or so of the video. Nice Innovative Concept. It will do well if they get eyes on it. It has to take a tremendous about of time and nice chunk of money to get that site setup and the first couple hundred reviews made. It's definitly a top heavy project and time consuming. Hopefully they left a lot of money for advertising so they can get the word out, unlike most people who spend all their money on building a good idea and then no one finds it.

Who owns / is behind the site ?

it's a scamming, credit card dinging, non updating site's worst nightmare LOL

always negative you say? i posted that a couple days ago.

Pleasurepays · 12-17-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

It's easy to predict failure, because there are more failures than successes. It doesn't make any of you psychic or great businessmen, it's just playing the odds. You'll end up right most of the time. You have to ignore naysayers and haters and take the risks required to pursue your ideas.

There's this story about Edison. "He saw every failure as a success. The story goes that he failed 10,000 times in his storage battery experiments. But Edison said, "Why, I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.""

The key difference is self awareness. Edison knew what he knew. He also knew what he didn't know. He knew what his abilities were. He knew what was within his abilities. He knew he had to learn a lot to solve a problem or achieve his goal. He knew it would be a long, painful process and one that might not be concluded in his lifetime.

Edison didn't start his journey of discovery with a deep rooted sense of misplaced arrogance and misguided bravado believing he knew it all and had nothing left to learn... because that's not discovery at all. Nor was he surrounded with a bunch of dick sucking jackasses telling him at every failure, that it looked good, that it was a great idea, that he was a genius... or that heralded every failure as a success.

ruff · 12-17-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

stfu you fake idiot.

Got a lot of time on your hands? What have you got going on?

ruff · 12-17-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GeXus

Don't be so naive please

Really? Another expert.

Agent 488 · 12-17-2009, 01:34 PM

comparing edison to sleazy is too deranged for me to comprehend right now.

quiet · 12-17-2009, 01:37 PM

i agree that scott dropped the site to the public too fast. i still think the idea is good, it just needs work. the site doesn't even have visa approval yet, and it's already a failure? tweaking it and testing it with his own traffic makes the most sense at this point. i have no idea if it will actually sell, but i like the concept.

it would be great for him to be able to shoot exclusive content in bars (great idea), but obviously that's just not a reality for him at this point, with the whole bankruptsy thing.

MetaMan · 12-17-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ruff

Got a lot of time on your hands? What have you got going on?

o not much just busy being one of the highest converting designers on the net.

but dont listen to me.

http://www.aggressivedollars.com/

says a whole lot about you already.

Agent 488 · 12-17-2009, 01:37 PM

dunno why he wouldn't have just quietly released it in private beta. he has traffic to throw at it.

get some criticism in private from a variety of sources. get it ready for a public debut.

now it's not about a website or business model but about a personality structure.

bdld · 12-17-2009, 01:38 PM

check the bros sites to see if anyone is advertising this, that should let you know if it's a prank or not.

quiet · 12-17-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

Yeah you right I was bashing that livereviews new concept.

Complete opposite, I was raving how cool and innovative the idea was.... If see something good i say so, if not I tried to help with ideas on how to make it better. I felt bad for sleazy, yeah i really did and was trying to offer him help. But he resorts back to the same old, insulting people if he doesnt like what they say...

i'm out, giving this place a break for while.

always negative you say? i posted that a couple days ago.

okay, you are now the most positive guy on the board lol. man, it's so funny how seriously you take yourself. lighten up for once.

bdld · 12-17-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF

it says the below when i try to play a video:

Video not found:

http://www.yessignals.com:8080/movies/MovieNo12.flv

nope, it must be your flash player

Vjo · 12-17-2009, 01:40 PM

Now days a flashy tour is pretty much a given and has to be there to attract affils. That being a given, does/can/should Sleazy spend more money and time?

Tour reminds me of the old Virtual Reality games circa 1995-7.

Sorry couldn't resist.

But what I want to say, do you have the money to really do what is needed.

I think you should try to see if it sells as is and then decide if you want to spend more $$ on this. Lots of guys arent even too thrilled with the concept either it sounds like.

I know with money tight you are trying to do alot of the work and some friends have helped. That is good. But you have to have big tours, big video trailers to SELL now days. (I know, I know, some say you don't need trailers

Like Choker said, (in a nutshell) it don't look good buddy. Think before spending more money.

I say that, as a guy like you, who's back is also against the financial wall now days. (Who's isnt)

Don't waste money.

maxjohan · 12-17-2009, 01:41 PM

Try to settle down.

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Originally Posted by will76

I'll be the first to admit when I am wrong. I genuinely try to help people, but when they pick fights with me, because they don;t like what I am telling them.... like in this thread being called a troll that has never made any money after I wasted 10 minutes tryign to give him good advice.

We can try to educate. But i'ts rewarding to settle down
and deal with the feelings of ours. wE may be the Aristoteles of
the Gfy community.

But deal with the fact that we may be the most honest, and fair, and
know the most in adult.

It doesn't make other people open their
minds and eyes and look up to us.

They may be below the adult education levels of ours.
Or above our level.

Don't give away free advice from now on, be picky about it.
Otherwise we get left with a headache.

This is Online. This is GFY.

Agent 488 · 12-17-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by quiet

okay, you are now the most positive guy on the board lol. man, it's so funny how seriously you take yourself. lighten up for once.

someone has to save the industry .... one post at a time.

BVF · 12-17-2009, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxjohan

Don't give away free advice from now on, be picky about it.
Otherwise we get left with a headache.

This is Online. This is GFY.

CyberHustler · 12-17-2009, 01:45 PM

Agent 488 · 12-17-2009, 01:47 PM

word has it dirty d paid for the site to take the heat off.

JFK · 12-17-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

The quotes by Sleazy's friends above seem borderline dilusional now. Scary stuff.

Just because others peoples assessment of the site/concept does not agree with yours, that makes them dilusional ? What does anyone have to gain at this point by being nice to Sleazy? After all he's a bankrupt mofo, of no use to anyone. So, the so called "Bro's" kissing ass wont wash, as no one has anything to gain.

I feel he has a Good idea, it needs tweaking, but Sleazy will make it work ! Go Sleazy, GO

will76 · 12-17-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by quiet

okay, you are now the most positive guy on the board lol. man, it's so funny how seriously you take yourself. lighten up for once.

you right, i can tend to be too intense.

But it is funny, this whole thread consists of 95% "one liner" posts from people. The people saying " it's stupid" and the people saying "it's great, he will do well." I am one of the few actually offering a lot of suggestions on what he could do to make it better and I am the one being " disciplined " for being too this or that doing something wrong.

that is just fucked up. but par for the course around here. I should just join the masses of one liners, and just say " good job" or "something sucks" so I don't get called out.

no good deed goes unpunished. I do appreciate the comments, they made me realize, people really don't give a shit what I am saying and I just wasting my time here. And if they do want to know what I think I should charge them for it. thanks

xNetworx · 12-17-2009, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK

Just because others peoples assessment of the site/concept does not agree with yours, that makes them dilusional ? What does anyone have to gain at this point by being nice to Sleazy? After all he's a bankrupt mofo, of no use to anyone. So, the so called "Bro's" kissing ass wont wash, as no one has anything to gain.

I feel he has a Good idea, it needs tweaking, but Sleazy will make it work ! Go Sleazy, GO

I see your point and I sincerely wished him well in my first post. Not all of the comments above seem delusional, just a couple of them.

Shap · 12-17-2009, 02:07 PM

Hey Scott. I like you. You are a good guy and I really hope this kicks ass for you.

The idea is unique. I give you credit for coming up with something very different from what everyone is doing. I also like how you built up the anticipation on GFY that was great

That said you are asking for feedback. If I made the post I'd want honest feedback as much as it would hurt. I don't think this will be a smashing hit. I'm sure there is a community around the concept I just don't think it's being executed properly.
- The design is too old school. It looks like a 2001 AVS page. As a surfer I wouldn't sign up because I'd think it hasn't been updated since 2001.
- The girls just don't work. 2009/2010 we live in the world of Facebook girls. Ex Gf sites capitalize on that. The girls on your site look like 2001 porn girls. Not girls that can help.
- The videos are brutal. Not sexy or enticing or informative imo. Again looks too dated.

btw I haven't read any other feedback. Just giving my 2 cents.

I hate to knock an attempt at something new. I just think the execution as it is right now isn't what it needs to be to succeed. Your market is going to be tube traffic. This will not convert tube traffic imo.

JFK · 12-17-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

I see your point and I sincerely wished him well in my first post. Not all of the comments above seem delusional, just a couple of them.

thanks for seeing the point

12-17-2009, 12:49 PM	#203
The King of Pop So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 88	I am Dirty. D and I approve this thread

12-17-2009, 12:59 PM	#211
GeXus Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Yo Mommas Pussy Posts: 3,320	lol.. view source on his pages... It looks like it was literally done in the EARLY 90's... Is this really the quality people are doing? It's fucking horrid.. Sleazy, what did you pay for this site? Few grand? Couple hundred bucks? __________________

12-17-2009, 01:12 PM	#220
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	It's easy to predict failure, because there are more failures than successes. It doesn't make any of you psychic or great businessmen, it's just playing the odds. You'll end up right most of the time. You have to ignore naysayers and haters and take the risks required to pursue your ideas. There's this story about Edison. "He saw every failure as a success. The story goes that he failed 10,000 times in his storage battery experiments. But Edison said, "Why, I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."" __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

12-17-2009, 01:40 PM	#240
Vjo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Happy 4th of July :) Posts: 6,082	Now days a flashy tour is pretty much a given and has to be there to attract affils. That being a given, does/can/should Sleazy spend more money and time? Tour reminds me of the old Virtual Reality games circa 1995-7. Sorry couldn't resist. But what I want to say, do you have the money to really do what is needed. I think you should try to see if it sells as is and then decide if you want to spend more $$ on this. Lots of guys arent even too thrilled with the concept either it sounds like. I know with money tight you are trying to do alot of the work and some friends have helped. That is good. But you have to have big tours, big video trailers to SELL now days. (I know, I know, some say you don't need trailers Like Choker said, (in a nutshell) it don't look good buddy. Think before spending more money. I say that, as a guy like you, who's back is also against the financial wall now days. (Who's isnt) Don't waste money. Last edited by Vjo; 12-17-2009 at 01:43 PM..

12-17-2009, 12:53 PM	#204
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,877	I think the full length videos being shown for free are going to generate traffic to the site but negatively impact the signups.

12-17-2009, 01:07 PM	#216
xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	The quotes by Sleazy's friends above seem borderline dilusional now. Scary stuff.

12-17-2009, 01:11 PM	#219
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	he called me an idiot for saying his bro reviews weren't going to what he needed to hear. they would be nice. "do i look fat in these pants?"

12-17-2009, 01:12 PM	#221
FabianC Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 1,615	Smart money is on 1 of 2 scenarios; 1. This is a "just for fun" PR stunt and Sleazy is laughing at everyone in this thread. If so, bravo!! 2. This is a "financial" PR stunt which only Sleazy & his lawyers will know for sure and was born out of his bankruptcy proceedings (People do weird shit all the time during divorces & bankruptcies to avoid paying $$) ... in which case bravo again!! (and probably something he can't legally confirm)

12-17-2009, 01:19 PM	#224
letitride Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 36	Scott, Let this experience show you who your real bros are. All those fat cat ballers posted comments that, looking back were nothing more than attempts at kissing your ass and telling you stuff you wanted to hear instead of things you NEEDED to hear. They are not your friends. On top of that they look like jackasses. I will always respect the hell out of you for building up your TGP that way did. I sent a lot of money your way and you showed your love by partying my team out with a great meal and giving us helicopter rides a few years ago in Vegas. You are always nice and charming in person. A class act. The people telling you critical things should be listened to as they are speaking with passion- albeit, sometimes a little too much passion. Nevertheless, they are more valuable too you at this point. The new concept is lame. Nothing personal.

12-17-2009, 01:34 PM	#233
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	comparing edison to sleazy is too deranged for me to comprehend right now.

12-17-2009, 01:37 PM	#234
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	i agree that scott dropped the site to the public too fast. i still think the idea is good, it just needs work. the site doesn't even have visa approval yet, and it's already a failure? tweaking it and testing it with his own traffic makes the most sense at this point. i have no idea if it will actually sell, but i like the concept. it would be great for him to be able to shoot exclusive content in bars (great idea), but obviously that's just not a reality for him at this point, with the whole bankruptsy thing.

12-17-2009, 01:37 PM	#236
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	dunno why he wouldn't have just quietly released it in private beta. he has traffic to throw at it. get some criticism in private from a variety of sources. get it ready for a public debut. now it's not about a website or business model but about a personality structure.

12-17-2009, 01:38 PM	#237
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	check the bros sites to see if anyone is advertising this, that should let you know if it's a prank or not.

12-17-2009, 01:45 PM	#244
CyberHustler So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 23,783

12-17-2009, 01:47 PM	#245
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	word has it dirty d paid for the site to take the heat off.

12-17-2009, 02:07 PM	#249
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	Hey Scott. I like you. You are a good guy and I really hope this kicks ass for you. The idea is unique. I give you credit for coming up with something very different from what everyone is doing. I also like how you built up the anticipation on GFY that was great That said you are asking for feedback. If I made the post I'd want honest feedback as much as it would hurt. I don't think this will be a smashing hit. I'm sure there is a community around the concept I just don't think it's being executed properly. - The design is too old school. It looks like a 2001 AVS page. As a surfer I wouldn't sign up because I'd think it hasn't been updated since 2001. - The girls just don't work. 2009/2010 we live in the world of Facebook girls. Ex Gf sites capitalize on that. The girls on your site look like 2001 porn girls. Not girls that can help. - The videos are brutal. Not sexy or enticing or informative imo. Again looks too dated. btw I haven't read any other feedback. Just giving my 2 cents. I hate to knock an attempt at something new. I just think the execution as it is right now isn't what it needs to be to succeed. Your market is going to be tube traffic. This will not convert tube traffic imo.