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Old 12-19-2009, 07:00 PM   #601
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This thread is like oldschool gfy humour, but it's serious. Scary.
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Old 12-19-2009, 07:00 PM   #602
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Old 12-19-2009, 07:03 PM   #603
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You do notice that it says "Copywrite 2009" on the entry page?

Seriously man, I know you're an illiterate idiot, you've proven this over and over again on this board throughout the years... but at least get the Copyright... right.

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Old 12-19-2009, 07:49 PM   #606
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its not copywrite only.. SLEAZY PLEASE FOR GOD SAKES LEARN HOW TO SPELL..

its a fact that if you cant spell people dont perceive you as being intelligent..

Here are some of your common mistakes

its SPONSOR - NOT SPONSER
its HOLY SHIT - NOT HOLLY SHIT
its SEEN - Not SCENE

i'll correct you as we go on, cheers

I honestly cant believe you cant spell seen.. did you finish high school?
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Old 12-19-2009, 08:03 PM   #607
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you missed the point.

if you are relying on ratios given to you by a sponser they will never be apples to apples.


no one seems to get that.


money in money out - only ratio that matters
I shudder when people quote conversion ratios as if they mean anything.
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You do notice that it says "Copywrite 2009" on the entry page?

Seriously man, I know you're an illiterate idiot, you've proven this over and over again on this board throughout the years... but at least get the Copyright... right.
He actually said that he hasn't gotten to doing it yet, because it seems to bother people here.

Gotta love that logic, huh?
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He actually said that he hasn't gotten to doing it yet, because it seems to bother people here.

Gotta love that logic, huh?
While flipping through the previous pages, I noticed that the copywrite had been addressed already.

Oh well, I am not going to cry over Sleazy failing with this shitty site - which is inevitable, considering his attitudes towards the business. Lots of good points were made in here, if he thinks he's doing it right, more power to him.

I, for one, don't really give a fuck.
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He actually said that he hasn't gotten to doing it yet, because it seems to bother people here.

Gotta love that logic, huh?
honestly he isn't that intelligent at all.. someone that honestly cannot spell the word "seen", that speaks volumes..

He WAS riding on his tgp days.. he made a tgp when it was easy as pie...

then his success got to his head, he started calling everyone an idiot, throwing "elite tgp parties". LOL i remember the pics...

anyway pride comes before a fall, and he fell hard, and declared "bankrupsee". (thats how he spells it), although sometimes he tries and spells it as "bankruptse" ..
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Old 12-19-2009, 08:22 PM   #611
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He actually said that he hasn't gotten to doing it yet, because it seems to bother people here.

Gotta love that logic, huh?
would I do that? I'm an idiot......



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While flipping through the previous pages, I noticed.........................

I, for one, don't really give a fuck.

seems to be a little contradictory? hummmmm


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honestly he isn't that intelligent at all.. someone that honestly cannot spell the word "seen", that speaks volumes..

He WAS riding on his tgp days.. he made a tgp when it was easy as pie...

then his success got to his head, he started calling everyone an idiot, throwing "elite tgp parties". LOL i remember the pics...

anyway pride comes before a fall, and he fell hard, and declared "bankrupsee". (thats how he spells it), although sometimes he tries and spells it as "bankruptse" ..

Oh so Sleazy already failed, I see? Bankruptcy? Nice...

Karma is a bitch.


I am wondering though, don't all modern free browsers have a built-in spell check? How can you ignore those dotted red underlines?
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You are right, I do give a fuck to be entertained. Not whether you succeed with your mediocre site.
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i'm starting to think all of sleazy's spelling errors are on purpose, no grown man could seriously spell that terribly. i mean, mixing up seen and scene? that's like 3rd grade shit...
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Old 12-19-2009, 08:33 PM   #616
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For example:
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are you going to tell us what women want? If so. maybe you should say so.
You should honestly change that image, its really bad/poor

There are a few others but this one appears to be the worst...
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i'm starting to think all of sleazy's spelling errors are on purpose, no grown man could seriously spell that terribly. i mean, mixing up seen and scene? that's like 3rd grade shit...
I know, it's almost as bad as typing "i" and meaning to type "I"

I mean once is a typo..... but multiple times..... no grown man could seriously ........well you get the drift.....
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There are a few others but this one appears to be the worst...
not following? why is this one the worst?
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I know, it's almost as bad as typing "i" and meaning to type "I"

I mean once is a typo..... but multiple times..... no grown man could seriously ........well you get the drift.....
so what you are saying is, you can't spell.
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With typos... Firefox is your friend.... seriously. I love how it underlines every typo in red.... little right click and I look smarter than a 5th grader.
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no, no it's not. it's much worse. one is lazy, one is stupid. i'd much rather be lazy than stupid, but hey, that's just me. spelling "seen" as "scene", especially back to back in the same sentence, is no typo. it's just plain idiocy...
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i'm starting to think all of sleazy's spelling errors are on purpose, no grown man could seriously spell that terribly. i mean, mixing up seen and scene? that's like 3rd grade shit...
no its not a typo.. he uses the word "scene" at least 5+ times in this thread, he even used it 2 times in same post, and he wrote "Scene" both times...

Heck "scene" is MORE letters than seen, so he actually keeps adding that "c" cause he thinks thats the correct spelling
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Is this thread really still going on or am I seeing things.
Kind of amazing isn't it... then again, I could keep a thread going too if I posted in it half the time as well. Sleazy's repeated responses make up for about 300 or so posts i'm sure...
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yet people go hundreds of pages on here about ratios....... you've scene it, I've scene it...it's sad really
it IS sad
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i found sleazy's school report from last xmas...

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so what you are saying is, you can't spell.
it took then 9 years and over 30,000 posts to figure it out......

can't get anything past these super sleuths.....
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Kind of amazing isn't it... then again, I could keep a thread going too if I posted in it half the time as well. Sleazy's repeated responses make up for about 300 or so posts i'm sure...
159, actually.
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i found sleazy's school report from last xmas...

ahhh, now I get it. You grew up rich! The most money my dad ever gave me was a $2 bill.......usually singles...
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i will not comment on your 'paysite' that look 1999 -- , but just one question :

did GFY paid you to entertain the crowd here? it works. congrats it's funny!
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stop posting and start working on your site dude.. you have spent HOURS replying to posts here... sheesh
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not following? why is this one the worst?
Well it looks like they were sitting on a couch or something and left part of their ass behind when they were photochopped. Would have looked better if the couch and the other part of their asses/limbs were still intact. They kinda look funny sitting in mid air like that...
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stop posting and start working on your site dude.. you have spent HOURS replying to posts here... sheesh
I am... I do this when I have to wait on stuff......uploads, rendering, processing things, etc...
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The spelling and pathological stubbornness of SD makes me think of hmm..... yeah, ALIENQ!
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stop posting and start working on your site dude.. you have spent HOURS replying to posts here... sheesh
On behalf of Sleazy..

aahahaha, getting off the board to work is for losers...

Sleazy does it ALL while continually juggling a minimum of 3 threads, never more than 8 min between a post. He is an old school master of multitasking. A razor blade in the other hand to cut out figurines, (ok maybe it's not done that way j/k) while grappling with a detractor on ICQ, plus about 34 other things simultaneously, all on the way to magnificent success and fabulous paysite riches!

(and documented from now till January 2012 right here on gfy)

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Not correcting the simple typos immediately is pure marketing genius because everytime somebody notices it they rush here to post about it and bump the thread again which keeps more eyes on the site and more people rushing to comment on it.

Everybody knows that few people actually have the attention span to read all pages of a thread and when they spot something they automatically assume that they are the first to spot it........and of course as sleazy is not the only guy on the internet who can't spell, MANY do not even notice these things.

Anybody who doesn't believe me should check out his alexa ranking today!

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Not correcting the simple typos immediately is pure marketing genius because everytime somebody notices it they rush here to post about it and bump the thread again which keeps more eyes on the site and more people rushing to comment on it.
right... because so few things scream "trust me with your traffic" and "i'm a marketing genius" louder than idiotic ramblings, a shitty site with horrible execution, shitty design, horrible code and a 3rd grade spelling ability.
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right... because so few things scream "trust me with your traffic" and "i'm a marketing genius" louder than idiotic ramblings, a shitty site with horrible execution, shitty design, horrible code and a 3rd grade spelling ability.
You are normally right about most things pleasurepays but in assuming that the average web surfer notices or attaches the same importance to spelling and grammar errors as you do, you are not.

However, that said, how are sales going sleazy? That is what matters.
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You are normally right about most things pleasurepays but in assuming that the average web surfer notices or attaches the same importance to spelling and grammar errors as you do, you are not.

However, that said, how are sales going sleazy? That is what matters.
a little worse than the average porn site I promote so far, but I have been listening and from what i can tell the number one complaint people seem to have is not understanding the site right away, I just went live on this page http://www.yessignals.com/BodyLanguage.html 10 minuits ago with image roll overs that add a lot more sales pitches without junking up the page... going to be changing more sales pitches elsewhere thoughout the day to try and increase the ratios...

it's all about testing.
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You are normally right about most things pleasurepays but in assuming that the average web surfer notices or attaches the same importance to spelling and grammar errors as you do, you are not.

However, that said, how are sales going sleazy? That is what matters.
I think I know who his very first member is. All you fuckers saying good luck, hope it works, etc, how about you actually help him out.
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You are normally right about most things pleasurepays but in assuming that the average web surfer notices or attaches the same importance to spelling and grammar errors as you do, you are not.

However, that said, how are sales going sleazy? That is what matters.
i think anyone on this board can agree that 1) we are ALL surfers and "surfers" are not some retarded aliens from another galaxy, and that 2) we determine the credibility of a site, the quality of its content and the value of its price points, based on how its presented... which in this case could be generously scored as such - fail... fail... fail.. and fail.
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Old 12-20-2009, 01:22 PM   #642
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a little worse than the average porn site I promote so far, but I have been listening and from what i can tell the number one complaint people seem to have is not understanding the site right away, I just went live on this page http://www.yessignals.com/BodyLanguage.html 10 minuits ago with image roll overs that add a lot more sales pitches without junking up the page... going to be changing more sales pitches elsewhere thoughout the day to try and increase the ratios...

it's all about testing.
this doesn't help at all, you need COMPLETE makeover. Throw everything you have in recycle bin, empty it and hire some professional to design/code
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Sleazy, how long does it take to get "Visa Approval" these days?
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i think anyone on this board can agree that 1) we are ALL surfers and "surfers" are not some retarded aliens from another galaxy, and that 2) we determine the credibility of a site, the quality of its content and the value of its price points, based on how its presented... which in this case could be generously scored as such - fail... fail... fail.. and fail.
it's nice to be negative and I'm sure it makes you feel better.

that's fine, my only consideration is that my site easydater which honestly looks like shit outsells the sites people on here tell me are how I should make yessignals look.....it sells at about the same rate as pimproll, nasty dollar, bangbros, naughtyamerica or adult.com sites for me and I have years of data to back that up. and that's with ccbill only - i don't even cascade it. so the looks like shit argument doesn't really hold weight. I believe it's about the sales pitch and what motivates people... Also the other PUA sites that people say are doing well honestly look like crap.

what I like about this is how many men see it and realize a situation where they saw a particular yes signal and didn't realize what it was. I've heard dozens of people tell me that. What I like is how many women tell me this is real and men NEED to know this. There is something there.

i'm getting some sales. I believe this should sell better than porn. not there yet but it's only about 30,000 tracked clicks in so far (ran for a little while last week too before tracking with google and friends).....I've promoted some AMAZING looking sites that get less than 1 in 10,000 (i'm doing a little better than that now) and crappy ones that do better than 1 in 300 (no where near that)....the average i see for anything decent these days is about 1 in 1500/2000 with tgp traffic...I'm worse than that so far...

Everything I've heard as well about other sites in this marketplace is that this is a slower sale - requiring newsletters and touching the client a couple times. I'm working on that. I saw the same thing with AFF actually when I started with it - i didn't get sales right away - it took a few days of people playing with the site before they became members.....I think most dating sites can tell you stories like this too.... it's not a wack off now purchase, it's more of a - yeah I get it - then realize I need it later to get laid kind of a purchase....and panicking knowing they are going to meet a woman and want knowledge to speed things along.... That's my theory anyway...

So I'm refining my sales pitch and working on getting the newsletter together......if it is similar to a dating site for sales I won't have accurate numbers till I'm into the new year
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Sleazy, how long does it take to get "Visa Approval" these days?
it was about a week but i had an existing account so that's just site approval
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it's nice to be negative and I'm sure it makes you feel better.
of course it does. why else do it? you beg for negative attention all the time. don't be shocked when you get it when you don't want it.

[QIUOTE]my only consideration is that my site easydater which honestly looks like shit outsells the sites people on here tell me are how I should make yessignals look.....it sells at about the same rate as pimproll, nasty dollar, bangbros, naughtyamerica or adult.com sites for me and I have years of data to back that up. and that's with ccbill only - i don't even cascade it.[/QUOTE]

i had never seen "easydater.com" before. Here is where i would say is the first place you've derailed. if i visit easydater.com - i can clearly see its a porn site. i see the episodes, the models, that everyone is fucking and "i get it".

if i visit yessignals.com - its absolutely NOT clear what it is or what its focus is or what you're selling and you've blurred the line between two distinctly different offerings - "porn" or "how to pick up women". its horrible as porn. its horrible as a PUA type site.

there is no focus and its primary focus/benefit/value is not communicated well in its presentation

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so the looks like shit argument doesn't really hold weight. I believe it's about the sales pitch and what motivates people... Also the other PUA sites that people say are doing well honestly look like crap.
the argument about design, looking like shit, looking polished etc and conversions we both know is as old as porn online.

in this case "looks like shit" means "that guy should know much better.. but apparently doesn't"

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what I like about this is how many men see it and realize a situation where they saw a particular yes signal and didn't realize what it was. I've heard dozens of people tell me that. What I like is how many women tell me this is real and men NEED to know this. There is something there.
again... i'm not disputing that idea. what i'm saying is that you are not creating a pick up artist site. you are taking bad porn and trying to pass it off as something educational or as entertainment rather than something someone wants to jack off to. the more unfocused you are in your offering and how you communicate what you're offering.. the more problems you'll have trying to close the sale.

you can't sell crème brûlée at a taco stand with the reasoning that "people love crème brûlée" - its about the target market, focus and an appropriate/clear/focused approach that properly communicates to the target market that you have what they need and are searching for.[/QUOTE]


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that's great. i would say that as long as you approach things with an attitude that says "i'm going to let the data lead the way" rather than "i know it all", i'm sure you could do fine as you will ultimately end up with a model that works and should always be improved. i think people tend to give too much weight to ideas, focus on them and fall in love with them, which in turn, tends to leave one blind to the valuable information that comes back with traffic and sales and communication with users.

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