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RainMan · 12-17-2002, 06:46 PM

Hello all,

I need some information on http://www.bighitters.com/. Anyone know anything about them? Thanks.

Juicy D. Links · 12-17-2002, 06:47 PM

Dont you own Bighitters? Could this be SPAM?Come on we are not idiots here

Tex Willer · 12-17-2002, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks
Come on we are not idiots here

speak for yourself, dude

sehns · 12-17-2002, 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
Dont you own Bighitters? Could this be SPAM?Come on we are not idiots here

Its not spam, my sig is spam.

EscortBiz · 12-17-2002, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RainMan
Hello all,

I need some information on http://www.bighitters.com/. Anyone know anything about them? Thanks.

Bih hitters is owned by a great jewish guy whos married to a shicksa :-)

His name is Leon and hes cool

RainMan · 12-17-2002, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks
Dont you own Bighitters? Could this be SPAM?Come on we are not idiots here

Are you sure? Just kidding. No, I'm not from Big Hitters. And I wouldn't recommend them. I need to find out if anyone knows of them and what they know.

sehns · 12-17-2002, 07:00 PM

their webpage looks like it was made in 96, if that helps..

NetRodent · 12-17-2002, 07:07 PM

We've done business with them in the past.

Brad Mitchell · 12-17-2002, 08:25 PM

They sell "business opportunities". I've met Leon and his wife in Vegas, they seem like good people.

Cheers,

Brad

RainMan · 12-17-2002, 08:29 PM

Okay, I'm a bit new to the industry and I'm a little nervous. These are the facts that have me concerned. Any advice from you pros would be very helpful. I signed up with these guys through a reseller. The site is located at http://www.bighitters.com

I paid for 2 900 numbers and one page web site. Cost was $700.00.

I didn't expect to make a fortune right off the starting gate, I thought a couple of hundred dollars a month, maybe a grand a month.

After promoting the numbers for a week, I got zero sales, the only call that showed up was from me.

They keep pressuring me to market it with their paid advertising, even though though my traffic has always been reliable and good.

Here are the facts:

1. Stats open to anyone. All you need is the phone number I'm promoting. At http://www.bighitters.com/callcounts
2. The call I made didn't show up when it should have.
3. I asked four or five times when stats are posted and for what period they are posted for. I still don't have an answer.
4. That call should have shown up Last Monday. but it didn't even show up the following Friday. It showed up the next update AFTER I started asking very polite questions.
5. I had promoted it for a week.
6. They suggest I change the way I Market.
7. I paid $700 for my phone numbers.
8. They also sell advertising. (See number 6)
9. The one call showed up after it should have.
10. Stats updated twice a week, seems hard to make adjustments based on marketing methods but could be the nature of 900 numbers.

Thanks for the help

EscortBiz · 12-17-2002, 08:42 PM

Never pay for 900 numbers they are free to get, many sell numbers including good ol don lapre.

They mostly are AmericanTelnet.com numbers that he says based on the preamble

RainMan · 12-17-2002, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
Never pay for 900 numbers they are free to get, many sell numbers including good ol don lapre.

They mostly are AmericanTelnet.com numbers that he says based on the preamble

Uggg ;) Okay thanks. On my way to AmericanTelnet.

EscortBiz · 12-17-2002, 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by RainMan

Uggg ;) Okay thanks. On my way to AmericanTelnet.

better phone-cash.com
or
sintalk.com

RainMan · 12-17-2002, 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by NetRodent
We've done business with them in the past.

How did it go with them?

Please give me a yell at 177993094. Thanks

DTK · 12-17-2002, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RainMan

I paid for 2 900 numbers and one page web site. Cost was $700.00.

You paid for your 900 numbers??? Ummmm Brad???

Brad Mitchell · 12-17-2002, 09:24 PM

Rainman,

Please go ahead and give me a call in the office sometime tomorrow. I am sure that I can help you with your education in this business. If you visit my website I have a whole section devoted to teaching people about the phone sex business.

Cheers,

Brad
Toll Free 1-866-TELE-XXX

Brad Mitchell · 12-17-2002, 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by DTK

You paid for your 900 numbers??? Ummmm Brad???

Yeah, some people actually DO sell them. Fuck, if I did I'd be a couple hundred thousand dollars richer even if my clients never made a dime if I was selling setup all this time.

I only make money when my clients do.

Brad

buran · 12-17-2002, 09:47 PM

RainMan, bighitters is selling you things you can get for free.

RainMan · 12-17-2002, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
Rainman,

Please go ahead and give me a call in the office sometime Cheers,

Brad
Toll Free 1-866-TELE-XXX

Hi Brad,

I just signed up with you. My office hours are more like vampire hours. ;) Will try to call if I'm awake after the sun comes up.

RainMan · 12-17-2002, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by buran
RainMan, bighitters is selling you things you can get for free.

Yea, I see that now. It was all I found at Google, maybe I didn't look hard enough.

sehns · 12-17-2002, 10:44 PM

poor rainman

sehns · 12-17-2002, 10:45 PM

That big pile of cash on the front of www.bighitters.com must be all the money they've made screwing people.

RainMan · 12-18-2002, 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by sehns
poor rainman

Oh it's cloudy now, but Rainman will learn. Just paying my dues I suppose. Usually it cost less though, you know?

RainMan · 12-18-2002, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sehns
That big pile of cash on the front of www.bighitters.com must be all the money they've made screwing people.

Well I just got a sales call and an sales e-mail. They want to talk to me about getting additional numbers from them and discuss marketing. From their e-mail:

"I left you a message earlier, just wanted to get us back on the right track here.
If you are serious about making money, we should talk, as our Internet programs are frankly kicking ass over our phone sex programs, and I believe in investing marketing dollars into the most profitable of programs."

I don't know but I kind of think the verdict is in. I've made some changes so I can better track things. Going to give it another week. But, yea not feeling too good right now.

Surprised not more people here that have had dealings with them. Good, bad, indifferent?

Cogitator · 12-18-2002, 06:43 PM

You're all crazy!

sehns · 12-18-2002, 06:45 PM

All that marketing speak makes me drowsy. Makes me feel like when i'm not looking they are going to jack my wallet.

RainMan · 12-19-2002, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sehns
All that marketing speak makes me drowsy. Makes me feel like when i'm not looking they are going to jack my wallet.

Got this from them two:

" but he who has the opportunity to talk to me, usually takes advantage of it.
Not to brag, but if you want to make money in the adult business, you want to talk to me."

I'm going to hear them out, but I find it very unlikely that they will get any more of my money.

RainMan · 12-20-2002, 02:13 AM

Well, after doing the research I've done. I can really find nothing wrong here. I checked my promotion sources a lot closer only to find that they are no longer working.

Should I have paid the $700? Probably not but hey, I could have done more research. I was concerned about shaving. My traffic has sucked to put it mildly.

Someone trying to sell you more stuff should raise red flags but red flags are to be investigated, and the investigation leads me to think, I should probably try some of their advertising methods. They guarantee traffic but nto sales. Will have to think on that. Work for yourself, their are risk.

Using my old marketing methods, I was able to generate a grand total of 143 visits in two days. That isn't going to do a whole lot in the way of sales.

Thanks for all that tried to help, I do wish though the people that actually knew of Leon and BH would have shared a bit more information with me.

TheStorm · 12-29-2002, 03:36 AM

I changed my name to one that I'm a little better known by, not so much on this board tough. I signed up about a year ago and you guys were scary. LOL So I used Rainman. I'll be posting with this nick in the future.

I thought I'd let you all know how this has progressed. I talked with Leon of Bighitters. Seems like a nice guy. Offered me some special promotion deals and some names. I tried to call them but I never made contact. And besides fool me once shame on you... you know the rest of it.

I placed a couple of other calls to my own phone numbers, numbers that Bighitters does not have. I suppose no one would be shocked to find out that they calls did not show up. The only call to show up was from my home number and it showed up 3 reporting cycles late. After I asked where it was. But the minutes are wrong, they show four minutes, I talked longer than that. My hunch is they just guessed at how long.

I've talked with some folks in the industry too. One person said "I knew it was a screw." I gave it a fair shot, I promoted it and tracked the results for a bit. The advertising methods were working, I did get visitors to the web site.

But seeing my calls not show up and seeing my one call showing up after I complained, I believe it's pretty clear what's going on here.

I asked for a refund and they said that they know I'm disappointed but it's not a get rich quick scheme. I never expected it to be. But getting credit for my calls is what I expect and that is not happening.

Maybe I should have pursued some of those other deals they are offering me but leaking stats in one program could mean leaking stats in another.

They of course state they do not issue refunds. Well I suspect I'll get my money back. I wonder how many people sign up and never test the lines? Shame, I could have made them money and me money at the same time. And the Dataline sounds pretty good, oh there are some fake womeon on there but their or some real ads. Oh well, take a chance in business you might loose some money, I can handle that. But I don't handle it will when someone's tilting the results.

funkmaster · 12-29-2002, 03:44 AM

"their webpage looks like it was made in 96, if that helps.."

... no wonder: http://www.bighitters.com/whybh.htm

--------
Since 1991, Big Hitters has been offering adult-themed money making opportunities to individuals and companies around the world.
--------

fuxu · 12-29-2002, 04:15 AM

It might've been made before 1996, I want to know, in what year was american currency the size of a womans forearm?

TheStorm · 12-31-2002, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster
"their webpage looks like it was made in 96, if that helps.."

... no wonder: http://www.bighitters.com/whybh.htm

--------
Since 1991, Big Hitters has been offering adult-themed money making opportunities to individuals and companies around the world.
--------

Call it what they want. I made three calls to my own lines, you know how many showed up? 1 and that was three cycles late. The other two didn't show up at all. I don't know, I'm looking pretty dumb for giving them my money, but I ain't that dumb.

TheStorm · 01-08-2003, 02:50 PM

I thought I'd let everyone know how this ended. I wasted some time and about $250.00 on advertising but I got my $702.00 from Bighitters.com back. I don't know if the reseller that I dealt with is being scammed to or what, so I'm not going to mention them, just make sure you know who your dealing with. Wish I was a sexy female, I'd get me a number with SinCity, a web cam and make me some money. Hmmm me in a dress? Nawwwww would never work. ;)

pamphage · 12-21-2003, 04:23 PM

--------------------------I HAVE BEEN EATEN------------------------

12-17-2002, 06:46 PM	#1
RainMan Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 15	www.bighitters.com Hello all, I need some information on http://www.bighitters.com/. Anyone know anything about them? Thanks.

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12-17-2002, 08:25 PM	#9
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12-17-2002, 08:29 PM	#10
RainMan Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 15	Okay, I'm a bit new to the industry and I'm a little nervous. These are the facts that have me concerned. Any advice from you pros would be very helpful. I signed up with these guys through a reseller. The site is located at http://www.bighitters.com I paid for 2 900 numbers and one page web site. Cost was $700.00. I didn't expect to make a fortune right off the starting gate, I thought a couple of hundred dollars a month, maybe a grand a month. After promoting the numbers for a week, I got zero sales, the only call that showed up was from me. They keep pressuring me to market it with their paid advertising, even though though my traffic has always been reliable and good. Here are the facts: 1. Stats open to anyone. All you need is the phone number I'm promoting. At http://www.bighitters.com/callcounts 2. The call I made didn't show up when it should have. 3. I asked four or five times when stats are posted and for what period they are posted for. I still don't have an answer. 4. That call should have shown up Last Monday. but it didn't even show up the following Friday. It showed up the next update AFTER I started asking very polite questions. 5. I had promoted it for a week. 6. They suggest I change the way I Market. 7. I paid $700 for my phone numbers. 8. They also sell advertising. (See number 6) 9. The one call showed up after it should have. 10. Stats updated twice a week, seems hard to make adjustments based on marketing methods but could be the nature of 900 numbers. Thanks for the help

12-17-2002, 09:24 PM	#16
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	Rainman, Please go ahead and give me a call in the office sometime tomorrow. I am sure that I can help you with your education in this business. If you visit my website I have a whole section devoted to teaching people about the phone sex business. Cheers, Brad Toll Free 1-866-TELE-XXX __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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sehns Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 29	That big pile of cash on the front of www.bighitters.com must be all the money they've made screwing people. __________________ <a href="http://www.spamtraffic.com/?referrerid=sehns"><img src="http://spamtraffic.com/spamtraffic_120x60.gif" border="0"> </a> Remember: If its not down, it's not LikeWhoa!

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sehns Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 29	All that marketing speak makes me drowsy. Makes me feel like when i'm not looking they are going to jack my wallet. __________________ <a href="http://www.spamtraffic.com/?referrerid=sehns"><img src="http://spamtraffic.com/spamtraffic_120x60.gif" border="0"> </a> Remember: If its not down, it's not LikeWhoa!

12-20-2002, 02:13 AM	#28
RainMan Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 15	Well, after doing the research I've done. I can really find nothing wrong here. I checked my promotion sources a lot closer only to find that they are no longer working. Should I have paid the $700? Probably not but hey, I could have done more research. I was concerned about shaving. My traffic has sucked to put it mildly. Someone trying to sell you more stuff should raise red flags but red flags are to be investigated, and the investigation leads me to think, I should probably try some of their advertising methods. They guarantee traffic but nto sales. Will have to think on that. Work for yourself, their are risk. Using my old marketing methods, I was able to generate a grand total of 143 visits in two days. That isn't going to do a whole lot in the way of sales. Thanks for all that tried to help, I do wish though the people that actually knew of Leon and BH would have shared a bit more information with me. __________________ ---------------- ICQ = 177993094

12-29-2002, 03:36 AM	#29
TheStorm Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Memphis Posts: 36	I changed my name to one that I'm a little better known by, not so much on this board tough. I signed up about a year ago and you guys were scary. LOL So I used Rainman. I'll be posting with this nick in the future. I thought I'd let you all know how this has progressed. I talked with Leon of Bighitters. Seems like a nice guy. Offered me some special promotion deals and some names. I tried to call them but I never made contact. And besides fool me once shame on you... you know the rest of it. I placed a couple of other calls to my own phone numbers, numbers that Bighitters does not have. I suppose no one would be shocked to find out that they calls did not show up. The only call to show up was from my home number and it showed up 3 reporting cycles late. After I asked where it was. But the minutes are wrong, they show four minutes, I talked longer than that. My hunch is they just guessed at how long. I've talked with some folks in the industry too. One person said "I knew it was a screw." I gave it a fair shot, I promoted it and tracked the results for a bit. The advertising methods were working, I did get visitors to the web site. But seeing my calls not show up and seeing my one call showing up after I complained, I believe it's pretty clear what's going on here. I asked for a refund and they said that they know I'm disappointed but it's not a get rich quick scheme. I never expected it to be. But getting credit for my calls is what I expect and that is not happening. Maybe I should have pursued some of those other deals they are offering me but leaking stats in one program could mean leaking stats in another. They of course state they do not issue refunds. Well I suspect I'll get my money back. I wonder how many people sign up and never test the lines? Shame, I could have made them money and me money at the same time. And the Dataline sounds pretty good, oh there are some fake womeon on there but their or some real ads. Oh well, take a chance in business you might loose some money, I can handle that. But I don't handle it will when someone's tilting the results. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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TheStorm Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Memphis Posts: 36	I thought I'd let everyone know how this ended. I wasted some time and about $250.00 on advertising but I got my $702.00 from Bighitters.com back. I don't know if the reseller that I dealt with is being scammed to or what, so I'm not going to mention them, just make sure you know who your dealing with. Wish I was a sexy female, I'd get me a number with SinCity, a web cam and make me some money. Hmmm me in a dress? Nawwwww would never work. ;) __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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