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Shoehorn! · 12-04-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CunningStunt

LOLz @ the screenshot Shoehorn, this thread keeps getting better.

Good luck, I hate seeing programs screw webmasters like this, I've been on the receiving end of assholes like this too.

Thanks, but I think his lack of showing himself around here speaks volumes for both his personality and the way he runs a business. If I don't get the money that he owes me I will do everything I can to let everyone know to stay away from him, both here and at the shows.

Shoehorn! · 12-04-2009, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

A new pay period just rolled over, and I am now owed $477 dollars. Thats right, Dirty D continued to accept my traffic and sales the entire month of October.

Do the right thing and pay your affiliates Dirty D.

This needs to be quoted and displayed at the post of this new page.

Dirty D continued to accept my traffic and sales with no intention of paying me. He never contacted me to say he didn't want my PPC traffic. Instead I had to contact him wondering where my payment was, at which point he told me he had no intentions of paying me because he has no knowledge of how PPC works.

NetHorse · 12-04-2009, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CunningStunt

Good luck, I hate seeing programs screw webmasters like this-snip-.

It's the biggest slap in the face in this industry, it doesn't matter if it's for $50 or $10,000. We invest our time and money to make programs money, when they don't pay and keep the profits we earned them they deserved to have their reputations shit on.

I'm thankful that all the programs I've promoted have always paid me on-time like clockwork. Unlike this clown they know how to treat the people who keep their businesses alive.

Tom_PM · 12-04-2009, 12:39 PM

Wait, is blockbuster video recommending bidding on the term "amazon"? lol

Agent 488 · 12-04-2009, 12:41 PM

maybe he is having problems with epass. or there is a holiday. or the accountant is out of the office.

ruff · 12-04-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

maybe he is having problems with epass. or there is a holiday. or the accountant is out of the office.

Or maybe he's just decided to steal the money. Like the other thieves in this business, they just wait till everything blows over and it's just another day. TOS is the new gun in your back.

dpl girls · 12-04-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

A new pay period just rolled over, and I am now owed $477 dollars. Thats right, Dirty D continued to accept my traffic and sales the entire month of October.

Do the right thing and pay your affiliates Dirty D.

That's fucking ownership right there.

Shoehorn - a request. Stop bumping with screen caps, we all know you are right, post some pics of that fox you had on your arm in Miami.

Dirty D · 12-04-2009, 01:34 PM

Marketing does not = buying the domain name from google

Marketing = bringing us additional traffic and sales.

I have responded plenty... but unlike all of the fake nicks posting and webmasters without a website living in momma's basement, we are busy over here.

Shoehorn should put the same effort into some VALID promotions.

Remember I have sent him lots of emails explaining the issue.
Tried to find additional referral sales since he lied about the traffic source.
Only 3 of his 37 keyword combinations were a problem.
I tried to work on improving his campaign with good keyword combinations.
Also offered $100 PPS for 30 days for VALID sales.

My offer to work with you was rejected.
This means the only sales Shoehorn is interested and capable of sending is my own domain name from google.

My generous offer of $100PPS for 30 days still stands if you want to show us all what a great PPC ninja you are. The only forbidden term is the EXACT spelling of ONLY the DOMAIN NAME.

Someone please read this out loud for Shoehorn so he can understand that this is the way to get paid.

vending_machine · 12-04-2009, 01:37 PM

What a train wreck.

The only solution to this problem is to pay Shoehorn for the money he legitimately earned.

Dirty D · 12-04-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

Here is an example of a mainstream affiliate programs PPC terms.

Do the right thing and pay me Dirty D.

This shows me that you are aware that your lame marketing is not accepted by others.

Why would Block Buster want you to bid on their name?

Same reason I don't.

Are they offering $100 PPS to reward you like I am?

jtrade · 12-04-2009, 01:38 PM

interesting thread...

Jdoughs · 12-04-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty D

Marketing does not = buying the domain name from google

Marketing = bringing us additional traffic and sales.

I have responded plenty... but unlike all of the fake nicks posting and webmasters without a website living in momma's basement, we are busy over here.

Shoehorn should put the same effort into some VALID promotions.

Remember I have sent him lots of emails explaining the issue.
Tried to find additional referral sales since he lied about the traffic source.
Only 3 of his 37 keyword combinations were a problem.
I tried to work on improving his campaign with good keyword combinations.
Also offered $100 PPS for 30 days for VALID sales.

My offer to work with you was rejected.
This means the only sales Shoehorn is interested and capable of sending is my own domain name from google.

My generous offer of $100PPS for 30 days still stands if you want to show us all what a great PPC ninja you are. The only forbidden term is the EXACT spelling of ONLY the DOMAIN NAME.

Someone please read this out loud for Shoehorn so he can understand that this is the way to get paid.

Not many fake nicks here, but I do see lots of real webmasters, that send real sales saying they will never touch you now.

Man you are a fucking retard to not see it.

dpl girls · 12-04-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty D

This shows me that you are aware that your lame marketing is not accepted by others.

Why would Block Buster want you to bid on their name?

Same reason I don't.

Are they offering $100 PPS to reward you like I am?

This shows us that you fucked up by not including it in your TOS.

katharos · 12-04-2009, 01:49 PM

this dirty d guy must have some brain problems if he is still saying some shit even if everyone says that he have to pay ...

beerptrol · 12-04-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty D

This shows me that you are aware that your lame marketing is not accepted by others.

Why would Block Buster want you to bid on their name?

Same reason I don't.

Are they offering $100 PPS to reward you like I am?

They have it stated in their TOS! What next, you gonna come up with some other bullshit that isn't stated in your TOS and point to Disney saying "well they have this in their TOS so that means it's implied in mine though it doesn't state it in my TOS.
You better have one of those crack whores come here and do your PR, I bet they can do a better job.

katharos · 12-04-2009, 02:09 PM

i have pulled my three uniques per month and sending them to another sponsor

Penrod · 12-04-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol

They have it stated in their TOS! What next, you gonna come up with some other bullshit that isn't stated in your TOS and point to Disney saying "well they have this in their TOS so that means it's implied in mine though it doesn't state it in my TOS.
You better have one of those crack whores come here and do your PR, I bet they can do a better job.

Bumpity Bump

Deej · 12-04-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty D

This shows me that you are aware that your lame marketing is not accepted by others.

Why would Block Buster want you to bid on their name?

Same reason I don't.

Are they offering $100 PPS to reward you like I am?

Seriously? And i hope youre not referring to me as a fake nick or a mommas basement dweller.

hes showing that legit companies that dont want this method post it up to see before joining as a partner.

YOU DO NOT HAVE THOSE RULES IN YOUR TOS!

You kept taking the sales he sent on his dime, without notice!

You really arent this stupid D i know. youre just being stubborn. but you have to know ifn the back of your mind what youre doing isnt right. Youre just doing it out of stubborness and maybe thinking this is good media for you... Well i dont hink it is.

You kept taking his sales. You didnt notify him.

Id also bet money if this wasnt your issue that you would have left a post in here very fucking similar to mine and many in here. But its not them, its you so youre acting like a child about this...

Jenni is your PR girl right? Does she agree with you and your methods in this thread?

MoreMagic · 12-04-2009, 02:16 PM

Dirty leave the coke alone, you start to become right out stupid.

RuthB · 12-04-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty D

This shows me that you are aware that your lame marketing is not accepted by others.

Why would Block Buster want you to bid on their name?

Same reason I don't.

Are they offering $100 PPS to reward you like I am?

I'm amazed that you continually miss the overall point. It seems everyone in this thread gets it but you.

Fact: Blockbuster STATES these rules in their TOS
Fact: YOU don't state anything of the SORT in your TOS

If you don't make your RULES clear, then how can anyone follow them?

YOU fucked up Dirty D. YOU forgot to include your own rules in your own TOS.

It doesn't matter that Blockbuster states it, it doesn't matter if every single other adult affiliate program states it in their TOS, if you DON'T then YOU don't have a leg to stand on. If you were to take this to court it would be pretty cut and dried; pay the man the money he is owed by your company, and update your TOS to reflect your OWN rules.

Your affiliates CANNOT read minds, and your affiliates will not PRESUME that you have rules in place that you do NOT state in your TOS.

It's time to own up to your own mistakes and pay Shoehorn. Being honourable and professional is far more important than keeping less than $500 in your pocket, isn't it?

Swallow your pride and do the right thing!

Bryan G · 12-04-2009, 02:29 PM

Since it was not in the TOS I would just pay the $477 and this thread will be over with.

Just my 2cents

dav3 · 12-04-2009, 02:30 PM

Blockbuster?

What an oblivious train wreck.

vod · 12-04-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty D

This shows me that you are aware that your lame marketing is not accepted by others.
Why would Block Buster want you to bid on their name?
Same reason I don't.
Are they offering $100 PPS to reward you like I am?

Dirty D...

here is my example... I have a webmaster that promotes our trademark 'xondemand' in google with 'xondemand videos' xondemand movies' etc... as long as the webmaster promotes XonDemand I am good with that...

while I also bid for these keywords my policy is to work with these webmasters and police our trademark... I allow my webmasters to promote our trademark... the way I see it is we have to pay for it so it saves me money if they pay the advertising and it makes the best conversion more then any other keywords, trademarks convert for keywords and some companies allow you to target it's trademark and other do not allow you to target..

I even give you lots of keywords to start with and tools to get more keywords for you...

this is my story and I am sticking to it...lol

I think you have a great program dirty d and I have never heard of any webmaster who you have not paid... I know you are working it out and trying to keep the webmaster happy but maybe your program is not for people who do not want to follow your trademark policy.. ;- good luck and work it out'

Fat Panda · 12-04-2009, 02:36 PM

Dirty d quit acting like a maggot

Zuzana Designs · 12-04-2009, 02:38 PM

I have worked with Shoehorn for many years on lots of projects. He has always been a joy to work with and an overall great guy. I also know he sends lots of joins to several large companies. At this point it would be better to just pay him the money owed and stop being stubborn and acting like he did something wrong. This thread will not die and it will not be from fake nicks or basement dwellers. This is one of the only threads I have seen every person be on one persons side. Do the right thing and pay him the money owed. Seems like the best choice.

CDSmith · 12-04-2009, 02:42 PM

8 pages. Seriously, 8 pages? Over 3+ days? Wow.

As a business owner myself I'm all about solving complaints and getting things turned around fast and with a positive spin rather than fire wall after wall of text at a problem that the masses don't agree with.

In other words wouldn't it have been better to just pay Johnny Shoehorn his 300 bucks or whatever and then let him decide if he wants to take advantage of the $100 PPS deal or discontinue doing business with you, and be done with it? Problem solved, no need for a trainwreck thread, no need to burn your valueable time posting damage control to the GFY shark tank.

And of course it should go without saying you should add some language to your TOS to reflect your wishes on affiliates doing PPC campaigns. Affiliates don't know everything, and the general rule is "when in doubt abide by the TOS". If a rule isn't in there then it's usually assumed that it's not an issue.

Business 101 really. Fix the problem and move on.

Fat Panda · 12-04-2009, 02:46 PM

This seriously is unfuckingreal. What kind of fucking loser blames fake nicks for his shitty business practices. I know a great lawyer, I believe you can sue his ass for 3 times what he owes you + legal fees...take this fuck to the cleaners!

He can't afford $350, wait till he legally owes you 1000s!

BradM · 12-04-2009, 02:52 PM

Someone archive this before D pays Eric $350 to delete the thread

Agent 488 · 12-04-2009, 03:02 PM

i think it's 440 to delete a thread now.

XD2 · 12-04-2009, 03:13 PM

Wow I read 8 pages and there wasn't even a happy ending. I am just going to buy a book next time. Anyone set up PPC for the Amazon program yet.

Doctor Feelgood · 12-04-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty D

This issue has not been properly explained here.
Please post all of my many emails to you about the situation.
And the email where you refused to promote our sites using acceptable methods.

I even offered $100pps for a month so this guy could send some valid sales.

NOTE:
We do not pay Google, Yahoo, or affiliates for the exact spelling of our domain name.

This sends no extra traffic and no extra sales.
Newsflash: we already have the top listings for our own domain name.

I have suggested PPC terms that were acceptable.
The only thing shoehorn is interested in is sending us our own viral traffic.

"Crack Whore Stories" is acceptable.

Purchasing the exact spelling of our domain is not.

O MARINA · 12-04-2009, 03:18 PM

cliff notes? !

Deej · 12-04-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

Someone archive this before D pays Eric $350 to delete the thread

Im pretty sure eric would only delete if OP asked him to... at most removing DirtyD's replies...

Im pretty sure thats how eric said things work... i could be wrong...

Ayla_SquareTurtle · 12-04-2009, 03:20 PM

Dismissing people who say things you don't like as fake nics and/or losers who live in mom's basement is kind of the GFY equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going "la la la la, I can't hear you!"

goldfish · 12-04-2009, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty D

Only 3 of his 37 keyword combinations were a problem.

Your fucking kidding me right? 3 out of 37 were a problem and your not going to pay him. How freakin ridiculous!

So tell me, is that $477, worth the lost revenue. Don't answer now, come back in six months!

Agent 488 · 12-04-2009, 03:34 PM

the final scene of frankenstein where the villagers storm the castle.

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Originally Posted by O MARINA

cliff notes? !

O MARINA · 12-04-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

the final scene of frankenstein where the villagers storm the castle.

goldfish · 12-04-2009, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D

Marketing does not = buying the domain name from google

Go to Google and type in Google, eBay , Amazon etc

I guess they don't know what marketing is either.

will76 · 12-04-2009, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty D

Marketing does not = buying the domain name from google .

Marketing = bringing us additional traffic and sales.

Yes that is marketing. It is called paid per click advertising (PPC), and wish shoehorn would take those keyword phrases that describe your site and send it to one of your competitors with a similar site. That is 100% legit, and is 100% marketing. If he doesn't I might just target all of your keywords and send them somewhere else because you are being such a dumb ass. Then you would be begging shoehorn to do what he was doing to try to get you all of that traffic back since you obviously don't have a clue how ppc works. You really think it's your traffic LMAO... watch it get sent to someone else, then see how much it was "your" traffic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D

I have responded plenty... but unlike all of the fake nicks posting and webmasters without a website living in momma's basement, we are busy over here.
.

LOL, I guess I fall into the fake nick / living in momma's basement category since you didn't like that I was one of the many telling you that you are wrong. Thanks for the warning. added to the list of programs I wont be doing business with.

will76 · 12-04-2009, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D

This shows me that you are aware that your lame marketing is not accepted by others.

Why would Block Buster want you to bid on their name?

Same reason I don't.

Are they offering $100 PPS to reward you like I am?

ARE YOU REALLY THAT FUCKING STUPID ??? how in the hell do you even own a program ? Blockbuster for one is trade marked. They have a brand they are worried about and how people use their name, unlike you who has " crack whore confessions". In mainstream this is common practice, in adult it is not. A LOT OF ADULT PROGRAMS WOULD BE FINE WITH WHAT HE DID. YOU ARE IN THE MINORITY, VERY FEW ADULT PROGRAMS HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS AND IF THEY DO THEY LET YOU KNOW UPFRONT. THAT BEING SAID YOU SHOULD HAVE CLEARLY STATED ON YOUR SITE YOU WONT ALLOW THIS. DO YOU UNDERSTAND OR ARE YOU THAT FUCKING STUPID ? HE DOESN'T WANT A REWARD HE WANTS THE MONEY HE EARNED.

JFK · 12-04-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by O MARINA

cliff notes? !

hell NO, I went thru all 8 pages, so should u

halfpint · 12-04-2009, 03:55 PM

Im with shoehorn on this one Just pay him the money ammend your TOS and move on

RuthB · 12-04-2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK

hell NO, I went thru all 8 pages, so should u

kush · 12-04-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

ARE YOU REALLY THAT FUCKING STUPID ??? how in the hell do you even own a program ? Blockbuster for one is trade marked. They have a brand they are worried about and how people use their name, unlike you who has " crack whore confessions". In mainstream this is common practice, in adult it is not. A LOT OF ADULT PROGRAMS WOULD BE FINE WITH WHAT HE DID. YOU ARE IN THE MINORITY, VERY FEW ADULT PROGRAMS HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS AND IF THEY DO THEY LET YOU KNOW UPFRONT. THAT BEING SAID YOU SHOULD HAVE CLEARLY STATED ON YOUR SITE YOU WONT ALLOW THIS. DO YOU UNDERSTAND OR ARE YOU THAT FUCKING STUPID ? HE DOESN'T WANT A REWARD HE WANTS THE MONEY HE EARNED.

Good post, maybe this will get it through his thick head.

Agent 488 · 12-04-2009, 04:00 PM

everyone should take a deep breath ... oooommmmmmmmmmmmmmm .oooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ..

Va2k · 12-04-2009, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D

Marketing does not = buying the domain name from google

Marketing = bringing us additional traffic and sales.

I have responded plenty... but unlike all of the fake nicks posting and webmasters without a website living in momma's basement, we are busy over here.

Shoehorn should put the same effort into some VALID promotions.

Remember I have sent him lots of emails explaining the issue.
Tried to find additional referral sales since he lied about the traffic source.
Only 3 of his 37 keyword combinations were a problem.
I tried to work on improving his campaign with good keyword combinations.
Also offered $100 PPS for 30 days for VALID sales.

My offer to work with you was rejected.
This means the only sales Shoehorn is interested and capable of sending is my own domain name from google.

My generous offer of $100PPS for 30 days still stands if you want to show us all what a great PPC ninja you are. The only forbidden term is the EXACT spelling of ONLY the DOMAIN NAME.

Someone please read this out loud for Shoehorn so he can understand that this is the way to get paid.

halfpint · 12-04-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

everyone should take a deep breath ... oooommmmmmmmmmmmmmm .oooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ..

Deej · 12-04-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kush

Good post, maybe this will get it through his thick head.

DOubt it, been said already... multiple times and ways...

DirtyD is just not thinking right...

Alky · 12-04-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Not a highly sought keyword????? Results 1 - 10 of about 3,240,000 for big tit whore

It's not huge, but it ain't too bad either and it's VERY HIGHLY TARGETED. Damn, even when I try to give you people a free gift you don't take it.

dude are you serious?

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22big+tit+whore%22
Results 1 - 10 of about 23,700 for "big tit whore"

Good example:
http://www.google.com/search?q=viagra+sex+xxx

OMG I'm #1 for a 600k+ term..... oh wait when matched exactly only 8 sites match that term.

Back on subject... Shoehorn needs to be paid, bidding on "crackwhore confessions" is not the same as bidding on the domain, and even if it was... this affiliate program never had it in its terms.

I would pull links personally.... or send to a different place.. maybe http://www.realcrackhoes.com/webmasters.htm ???

If the "World famous" crackwhore confessions was pulling a whopping 3 sales a month from a #1 adwords spot bidding on its name, then I have better things to do.

marketsmart · 12-04-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Alky

dude are you serious?

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22big+tit+whore%22
Results 1 - 10 of about 23,700 for "big tit whore"

Good example:
http://www.google.com/search?q=viagra+sex+xxx

OMG I'm #1 for a 600k+ term..... oh wait when matched exactly only 8 sites match that term.

please don't rattle robbie's cage.. i dont feel like weeding through another 50 posts about how he is the greatest affiliate marketer ever...

12-04-2009, 12:39 PM	#354
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Wait, is blockbuster video recommending bidding on the term "amazon"? lol __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

12-04-2009, 01:34 PM	#358
Dirty D Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Paying Webmasters Millions Since 1999 Posts: 4,044	Marketing does not = buying the domain name from google Marketing = bringing us additional traffic and sales. I have responded plenty... but unlike all of the fake nicks posting and webmasters without a website living in momma's basement, we are busy over here. Shoehorn should put the same effort into some VALID promotions. Remember I have sent him lots of emails explaining the issue. Tried to find additional referral sales since he lied about the traffic source. Only 3 of his 37 keyword combinations were a problem. I tried to work on improving his campaign with good keyword combinations. Also offered $100 PPS for 30 days for VALID sales. My offer to work with you was rejected. This means the only sales Shoehorn is interested and capable of sending is my own domain name from google. My generous offer of $100PPS for 30 days still stands if you want to show us all what a great PPC ninja you are. The only forbidden term is the EXACT spelling of ONLY the DOMAIN NAME. Someone please read this out loud for Shoehorn so he can understand that this is the way to get paid. __________________ Dirty D - ICQ #1326843 - $1 Million Dollars of Bonus Money - 8,000+ FHG! Glory Hole Girlz - Crack Whore Confessions - Tampa Bukkake - Slut Wife Training - Fuck a Fan Electricity Play - Porn Video Drive - Theater Sluts - Skunk Riley - Ukraine Amateurs - Strapon Sessions

12-04-2009, 01:37 PM	#359
vending_machine Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,061	What a train wreck. The only solution to this problem is to pay Shoehorn for the money he legitimately earned. __________________

12-04-2009, 01:38 PM	#361
jtrade Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: ICQ:390041810 Posts: 234	interesting thread... __________________ Script5 New Affiliate Tool Management Script

12-04-2009, 02:29 PM	#371
Bryan G Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,338	Since it was not in the TOS I would just pay the $477 and this thread will be over with. Just my 2cents __________________ Bryan skype: bryan.glass3 \| ICQ 302999591

12-04-2009, 12:41 PM	#355
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	maybe he is having problems with epass. or there is a holiday. or the accountant is out of the office.

12-04-2009, 01:49 PM	#364
katharos So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,515	this dirty d guy must have some brain problems if he is still saying some shit even if everyone says that he have to pay ...

12-04-2009, 02:09 PM	#366
katharos So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,515	i have pulled my three uniques per month and sending them to another sponsor

12-04-2009, 02:16 PM	#369
MoreMagic Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,848	Dirty leave the coke alone, you start to become right out stupid.

12-04-2009, 02:30 PM	#372
dav3 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 7,348	Blockbuster? What an oblivious train wreck. __________________ Webmasters :: Juicy Ads :: ACWM :: Crak Revenue :: Money Tree

12-04-2009, 02:36 PM	#374
Fat Panda Porn is Dead. Move along. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,292	Dirty d quit acting like a maggot

12-04-2009, 02:38 PM	#375
Zuzana Designs All Your Design Needs Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: [email protected] Posts: 20,510	I have worked with Shoehorn for many years on lots of projects. He has always been a joy to work with and an overall great guy. I also know he sends lots of joins to several large companies. At this point it would be better to just pay him the money owed and stop being stubborn and acting like he did something wrong. This thread will not die and it will not be from fake nicks or basement dwellers. This is one of the only threads I have seen every person be on one persons side. Do the right thing and pay him the money owed. Seems like the best choice. __________________ Website Design - Consulting - GFY Moderator zuzanadesigns [at] gmail.com - See Our Work For GFY administration queries - info at gfy.com

12-04-2009, 02:42 PM	#376
CDSmith GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	8 pages. Seriously, 8 pages? Over 3+ days? Wow. As a business owner myself I'm all about solving complaints and getting things turned around fast and with a positive spin rather than fire wall after wall of text at a problem that the masses don't agree with. In other words wouldn't it have been better to just pay Johnny Shoehorn his 300 bucks or whatever and then let him decide if he wants to take advantage of the $100 PPS deal or discontinue doing business with you, and be done with it? Problem solved, no need for a trainwreck thread, no need to burn your valueable time posting damage control to the GFY shark tank. And of course it should go without saying you should add some language to your TOS to reflect your wishes on affiliates doing PPC campaigns. Affiliates don't know everything, and the general rule is "when in doubt abide by the TOS". If a rule isn't in there then it's usually assumed that it's not an issue. Business 101 really. Fix the problem and move on. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

12-04-2009, 02:46 PM	#377
Fat Panda Porn is Dead. Move along. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,292	This seriously is unfuckingreal. What kind of fucking loser blames fake nicks for his shitty business practices. I know a great lawyer, I believe you can sue his ass for 3 times what he owes you + legal fees...take this fuck to the cleaners! He can't afford $350, wait till he legally owes you 1000s! Last edited by Fat Panda; 12-04-2009 at 02:48 PM..

12-04-2009, 02:52 PM	#378
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Someone archive this before D pays Eric $350 to delete the thread

12-04-2009, 03:02 PM	#379
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	i think it's 440 to delete a thread now.

12-04-2009, 03:13 PM	#380
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12-04-2009, 03:20 PM	#384
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12-04-2009, 04:00 PM	#395
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