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Old 12-05-2009, 01:59 PM   #751
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Still willing to work with you to get my money Dirty D.
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Old 12-05-2009, 02:01 PM   #752
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Why do you feel the constant need to interject Robbie, this thread has nothing to do with you whatsoever.

Maybe DirtyD believes that there is no such thing as bad publicity except your own obituary.

Obituary is good publicity, too. It only says good things about the person. Because - it's in bad taste to say something bad about a dead person.
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Old 12-05-2009, 02:05 PM   #753
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damn, all this over $300 bucks?!
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Old 12-05-2009, 02:05 PM   #754
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Old 12-05-2009, 02:06 PM   #755
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damn, all this over $300 bucks?!
Actually it was $350, but now since the new pay period rolled over its $477. But I told him I would take $350 and we can both go our separate ways.
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Old 12-05-2009, 02:17 PM   #756
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That's not what I said either. I can prove that surfers type in names into Google INSTEAD of their address bar by my referring URL's. And so can most program owners.

And I never said they "mistake" it. They don't. They just prefer it. Same phenomenom as a person using the "guide" on their cable box to go to a channel instead of just going to the channel. I don't know why they do that. I'm like you, I type in the address bar. And when I know the t.v. channel I want I just go there. But I do see the trends of what other people do and I use them to my advantage.

My guess would be because they dont want the domain name to show up in their drop down menu. So instead they type it in to google and click on that link.

This whole thing is ridiculous for both sides on many levels.

1. If D's program didnt have anything in the ToS regarding bidding on certain terms he owes the affiliate money. Period. Doesnt matter what the affiliate bid on. You dont decide that you dont want the traffic but not tell the affiliate and accept the sales for three months, then with hold the money owed. As has been said by most everybody: You inform the affiliate that this traffic is not accepted and pay out what is owed, then update the ToS.

2. As a program owner, when you're clearly in the wrong, why you would keep this going for a mere $350 is ridiculous. Something else is going on that we're not aware of ($$ issues) or they're idiots.

3. As an affiliate why would you come to the biggest industry board and spell out how you make $$, inviting competition with your ppc campaigns, for a measly $350?

But thank you to both for the very entertaining read.
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Old 12-05-2009, 02:18 PM   #757
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Old 12-05-2009, 02:21 PM   #758
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wow this is still going...at least it's interesting. facts are facts, so shoe hope you get paid. congrats to all parties for making this such an epic thread



btw re: the other comments in this thread, don't worry about typos in the search bar esp. with google.

"Starting this week, when we have high confidence that your query was misspelled, we go a step further than asking "Did you mean..." by automatically showing results for the corrected query, saving you a click. In case we did misinterpret the query, there will be a link at the top of the results to undo the auto-correction. So, the next time I'm visiting South Florida and accidentally search for [maimi restaurants], it's reassuring to know I'll quickly go straight to the results for what I really meant: Miami restaurants."
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Old 12-05-2009, 02:24 PM   #759
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Old 12-05-2009, 02:26 PM   #760
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Old 12-05-2009, 02:27 PM   #761
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Actually it was $350, but now since the new pay period rolled over its $477. But I told him I would take $350 and we can both go our separate ways.
right, I didn't mean to make it sound like you are creating drama over nothing... just seems foolish that the program owner let this go on for as long as it did, all over few hundred bucks...
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damn 750+ replies...

well looks like this thread made it in the epic hall of fame of all boardthreads in 2009 :D
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Old 12-05-2009, 02:31 PM   #763
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Old 12-05-2009, 02:31 PM   #764
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Old 12-05-2009, 02:34 PM   #765
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wow it really is sad to see how desperate some people are these days
such a huge program not wanting to pay 400 bux

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Old 12-05-2009, 02:38 PM   #766
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right, I didn't mean to make it sound like you are creating drama over nothing... just seems foolish that the program owner let this go on for as long as it did, all over few hundred bucks...
Nope, I understand. I feel the same way.
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Old 12-05-2009, 02:49 PM   #767
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It continues to amaze me to watch programs/posters that have been around long enough to have witnessed the AFF/Zango disaster, how poorly that was handled by AFF (and Lars specifically) and somehow learned nothing from it.
They make the same mistakes with their decision making when handling public/affiliate relations, doing permanent and irreversible harm to their program and personal reputations.
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Old 12-05-2009, 02:51 PM   #768
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I think I figured this out...Shoehorn says DirtyD owed him tree fiddy, after which DirtyD thought he was the Loch Ness Monster and wouldn't be givin' no Loch Ness Monsta' no damn tree fiddy!

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Old 12-05-2009, 03:02 PM   #769
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Jesus fuck, at first I saw the amount of replies and assumed this was a contest thread, maybe next time I should have read the title eh?

I'm wearing my CrackWhoreConfessions.com shirt right now, just sayin...
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Old 12-05-2009, 03:09 PM   #770
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submit all of dirty d's sites to google for selling links,,,,,,,everyone do this, sites will be in the sandbox
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Old 12-05-2009, 03:14 PM   #771
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Click on a link on that page that says: "I see an unauthorized ad using my trademark. What is Google's trademark policy?"
ok i see , but you completely misrepresented what was said.

The important part is right before what you quoted

Please note the regions we will investigate ad text only. We will not disable keywords in response to a trademark complaint.

basically in a nutshell they DO shutoff trademark keywords, but in some areas that they only investigate text they won't.

When we receive a complaint from a trademark owner, our review is limited to ensuring that the advertisements at issue are not using a term corresponding to the trademarked term in the ad text or as a keyword.
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submit all of dirty d's sites to google for selling links,,,,,,,everyone do this, sites will be in the sandbox
I dont think thats the point of this thread... no one wants to ruin DirtyD's site ranking... well some might after reading this, but im sure shoe wants no ill will towards D... just what hes owed...
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Old 12-05-2009, 03:52 PM   #776
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I dont think thats the point of this thread... no one wants to ruin DirtyD's site ranking... well some might after reading this, but im sure shoe wants no ill will towards D... just what hes owed...
Thats correct. All I want is the money that he owes me.
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He must be having money issues to be so ignorant to the issue and let all this bad press mount up, when its a quick fix of the TOS and pay up.
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Don't promote howigotrich.com they steal from affiliates.



Don't promote howigotrich.com they steal from affiliates.

Lets get this going on every webmaster forum.
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@ Shoehorn - haven't promoted your sites in years but banner is in my sig. I don't think it will help you get paid (think it will do the opposite) however just showing support
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No sense losing a bunch of affiliates over some chump change...if he does the right thing I am sure a thread can be started here on how he came though and paid.

Like most said it is uncharacteristic of the guy.
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Didn't say that. You're not understanding what I said. I said if you search for crack whores...then it's a toss up. If a surfer searches for the term "crackwhore confessions" then he is searching for a BRANDED website in specificity. Yes, there is a small chance he would buy another site. Because that kind of thing would actually bring NEW eyes to BVF's site. But it does NOT bring new eyes to Dirty D's site. And if that isn't clear to you then I don't know what else to say.
Wait a second - you're saying because someone has heard of a site THEN the affiliate should not be paid?

Let me lay this out simple for your fucking dumb ass!

People search for a site to find galleries / content / maybe can't remember the url / similar sites / etc... sure they may have visited the site before but wtf does that matter?

The *SALES* text that Shoehorn used is what drew their attention to the site.

You do realise that most affiliates make money through surfers finding their sites by searching for brands?

Going by your idiotic logic, anyone who sends a sale after receiving traffic from a keyword such as 'crack whore confessions' should not be paid.
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I dont think thats the point of this thread... no one wants to ruin DirtyD's site ranking... well some might after reading this, but im sure shoe wants no ill will towards D... just what hes owed...
merely just tossing out an idea, and a friendly bump
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Wait a second - you're saying because someone has heard of a site THEN the affiliate should not be paid?

Let me lay this out simple for your fucking dumb ass!

People search for a site to find galleries / content / maybe can't remember the url / similar sites / etc... sure they may have visited the site before but wtf does that matter?

The *SALES* text that Shoehorn used is what drew their attention to the site.

You do realise that most affiliates make money through surfers finding their sites by searching for brands?

Going by your idiotic logic, anyone who sends a sale after receiving traffic from a keyword such as 'crack whore confessions' should not be paid.
Wow another disrpectful and non-factual post. I'd love for you to "lay it out" for my "fucking dumb ass"

But unfortunately, I never said any of that. And NO the sales text that Shoehorn laid out didn't draw any attention to a site that the surfer has already googled. People like you automatcally show your ignorance. And the fact that you are so damn elitist about it and cocky and calling names like that just shows me who and what you are.

As far as what most affiliates do...I think I know a bit more about being an affiliate than the average person. But hey, just call me a dumbass. I could care less. I showed what I have done as an affiliate. What have you done that makes you such an expert?

EDIT: Shoehorn, I didn't cause this. I don't know who this clown is. I didn't "bait" him. He came into this thread like so many others spoiling for a keyboard warrior fight. So please ask HIM to not derail your thread. It was HIS post that was both VERY negative and was "baiting" me. Not the other way around. I'm just enjoying watching people such as this one reveal themselves and allowing me to be able to judge how much weight to ever give their oprinion.
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Don't promote howigotrich.com they steal from affiliates.





Don't promote howigotrich.com they steal from affiliates.





Don't promote howigotrich.com they steal from affiliates.





Don't promote howigotrich.com they steal from affiliates.
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@ Shoehorn - haven't promoted your sites in years but banner is in my sig. I don't think it will help you get paid (think it will do the opposite) however just showing support
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No sense losing a bunch of affiliates over some chump change...if he does the right thing I am sure a thread can be started here on how he came though and paid.
This is exactly right. I have already spoken with Eric and if and when I am paid this thread will be locked.

Until that happens, its important that people know about this.
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Reading your bullshit tells me exactly why you are looking for a job. I'll make sure to put in a "good word" for you to everybody.
Yeah Robbie, thats it. I am pointing out the same things that everyone else is pointing out here that apparently you and D can't see, and that means i am looking for a job.

I've called you an idiot for the several stupid things you have posted over the years. I guess I have been looking for a job for a long time.

so calling someone an idiot is how people are suppose to look for a job. Jesus christ you are a stupid fuck, I will take Shoehorn's advice and not respond to you in this thread anymore so it doesn't get off topic, maybe you will shut the fuck up too for a little while.
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This is exactly right. I have already spoken with Eric and if and when I am paid this thread will be locked.

Until that happens, its important that people know about this.
Locking the thread is foolish.

To me that's like saying it's fine for anyone to fuck with you, but if they pay you, then you're ok with it.

This did happen, it is happening, locking/deleting the thread tells us you think its fine as long as YOU get paid. You say 'until I get paid, people need to know', am I the only one who has a problem with statements like this?

BTW, I'm on your side here, just sayin.
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so shoehorn would have been better off bidding on that term, and sending it to a different affiliate program?
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Someone really needs to do this.... because after all D thinks that it was his traffic all along. As soon as it is sent to his competitors then people like him and Robbie who think that it isn't marketing will understand first hand that ppc is marketing, and you should be THANKFULL that you have affiliates paying out of their own pocket to make sure YOUR program is covered on PPC.
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Old 12-05-2009, 06:33 PM   #794
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This is exactly right. I have already spoken with Eric...
Serious Question then.

Are you allowed to purchase Playboy from google and get paid to send it to playboy.com ?

We all know that BlockBuster doesn't need you to help buy their domain keyword.
Guess what, we don't allow it either.

Where is the list of Adult Programs with paysites that are lining up to pay Shoehorn to get PPC traffic from the EXACT SPELLING of their own DOMAIN name?

Haven't seen one paysite owner asking to be promoted in this way.
All I see is examples of companies that forbid it.

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Old 12-05-2009, 06:36 PM   #795
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Locking the thread is foolish.

To me that's like saying it's fine for anyone to fuck with you, but if they pay you, then you're ok with it.

This did happen, it is happening, locking/deleting the thread tells us you think its fine as long as YOU get paid. You say 'until I get paid, people need to know', am I the only one who has a problem with statements like this?

BTW, I'm on your side here, just sayin.
that happens almost 100% of the time. Ultiimately the people posting here in defense of the OP get used. Seen it happen so many times I wonder why I even waste my time to chime in. I guess I don't mind to some extent to help them out as I hate people who scam others. Money earned is money earned, fucking people have the nerve to think they don't need to pay out what they owe people.

Usually with threads like this as soon as the original poster is paid he will say some nice things about the guy he had been bashing, the thread goes away like it never happened, and it's over with.

We will see if he is paid if this case is different but chances are it will be like all the other times.
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Serious Question then.

Are you allowed to purchase Playboy from google and get paid to send it to playboy.com ?
last i checked i think Playboy is a global brand that is trademarked.... and most probably listed in their TOS. Playboy is similar to the Blockbuster examples here.

the phrase " crackwhore confessions" is it trademarked? is it in your TOS?

if it is trademarked then you can likely protect other people from bidding on it. If not then you can only add it to your TOS which prevents YOUR affiliates from bidding on it, which is retarded because then other people will use that phrase in ppc to send to your competitors.

you so don't get it. Now that you stopped Shoehorn from doing it, someone else is going to come along and do what he was doing and send it to another program. At least you were making something off of it at no expense to your own. Now you will make nothing, plus all the bad exposure that you are getting here because you make up your TOS and decide to pay affiiliates as you go.... good job!
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Old 12-05-2009, 06:41 PM   #797
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Serious Question then.

Are you allowed to purchase Playboy from google and get paid to send it to playboy.com ?

We all know that BlockBuster doesn't need you to help buy their domain keyword.
Guess what, we don't allow it either.

Where is the list of Adult Programs with paysites that are lining up to pay Shoehorn to get PPC traffic from the EXACT SPELLING of their own DOMAIN name?

Haven't seen one paysite owner asking to be promoted in this way.
All I see is examples of companies that forbid it.
Actually I do believe there have been comments from programs in this thread saying they would accept it...

Read a little deeper...
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Old 12-05-2009, 06:44 PM   #799
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Easy to see who is on ShoeHorn's ICQ list... lol

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Serious Question then.

Are you allowed to purchase Playboy from google and get paid to send it to playboy.com ?

We all know that BlockBuster doesn't need you to help buy their domain keyword.
Guess what, we don't allow it either.

Where is the list of Adult Programs with paysites that are lining up to pay Shoehorn to get PPC traffic from the EXACT SPELLING of their own DOMAIN name?

Haven't seen one paysite owner asking to be promoted in this way.
All I see is examples of companies that forbid it.
Funny, I don't see that in your ToS. So here is a neato idea. Pay the man, fix your ToS and the problem won't pop up again.
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