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  • AngelUS
    Registered User
    • Oct 2005
    • 23

    #1

    FreeNetPass scamming their adverts.

    FreeNetPass owner (aka Adult Insider Dave) don't wanna pay advert's commission without explanation.
    I chose a payment option 'wire transfer' (with minimum amount to pay $1000) and earned $1103 in period of 1 Jul 2009 - 15 Oct 2009. After hold of 2 weeks Dave had to pay this money (it should have happened at Nov 2). But he DID NOT PAY. As you see, it's 30 Nov 2009 now, but I still not received my money. Now it's time to pay money that was earned until 15 November 2009 ($1341). But as I see, Dave has not going to do it.

    I tried to contact Dave many times via emails, ICQ, in topics of his forum (adultinsider dot com), via Private Messages on this forum but he did not answer.

    At 11-23-2009 Dave decided to answer to one of my topics on his forum (he deleted another topics. UPD: today he banned me on his forum at all). There is his answer:


    "You know who you are and as per sean you know why you are not getting paid. Do not post here anymore.

    FNP has been paying webmasters on time for 10 years and continues to do so. I am not going to get into forum pissing matches over this. We see this every week on the forums- someone claims they aren't getting paid. It's typically one of 3 things. 1) he is a scammer 2) he is owed $20 after 6 months and the minimum payout is $100 (they usually have the time to bitch) 3) High chargebacks on the account (result of scamming, traffic, w/e).

    We do not scam our affiliates and still payout via check and wire every 2 weeks, like we have for the last 10 years. If you wish to discuss further email admin @ fnp."
    Of course, after this message I sent to Dave additional 2 emails and even one Private Message on forum (I saw that he was on forum 'online'). And... received NO REPLY.

    So, Dave, maybe here you'll say why you don't wanna pay money? And when you'll think about it, I'll answer to your 'typically one of 3 things'.

    1. he is scammer

    Look. I worked with FreeNetPass since 16 Dec 2005. During this time until 30 Jun 2009, I earned with FreeNetPass on signups and rebills $48774. Yes, there were chargebacks during this time ($1280), they are inveritable. But Dave did not consider me a scammer. What happened now? Maybe something terrible happened in last payperiod? Ok, let's see. During 1 Jul 2009 - 15 Nov 2009 I made $1409 on 18 signups and 64 rebills. And there were 4 chargebacks ($68).
    $1409 - $68 = $1341.

    DOES IT MEAN THAT I'M SCAMMER??

    2. he is owed $20 after 6 months and the minimum payout is $100

    Yes, I earned my $1341 during 3,5 monthes. But I don't understand - don't you carry earned money to another payperiod (early you always carried)???.

    IS IT THE REASON NOT TO PAY???

    3. High chargebacks on the account.

    Let's see: 18 signups and 64 rebills. And 4 chargebacks. Is it so high? Maybe you'll go to FreeNetPass's link list (go to freenetpass dot com and click on 'browse content') and check AVS sites represented here? Even on first page there are a lot of dead links, expired domains and bullshit sites. Of course, surfers don't wanna pay for bullshit and sometimes make chargebacks. It's really wonder that chargebacks are so few on my account.

    DO YOU STILL THINK THAT CHARGEBACKS IN AMOUNT OF $64 ARE TOO MUCH FOR EARNED $1409???


    At the same time, when Dave didn't pay, it was really funny that my account worked, I received email notifications of new rebills, my sites were active, etc.

    And yesterday my account was deleted... without explanation. I begin to understand that 'without explanation' - is Dave's slogan.

    I would like to warn people, who make business with Dave - BE CAREFULL, YOU WORK WITH SCAMMER.

    Dave is owner of these projects:

    adultinsider dot com
    eroticinsider dot com
    freenetpass dot com
    annomate dot com

    Dave's ICQ: 102858186

    UPD: Today Dave banned me on his Adult Insider forum.
    It happened when I asked on Adult Insider's (!!!) forum "Is someone work with FreeNetPass?". Of course, IMHO I was the last idiot, who worked there
  • Iron Fist
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Dec 2006
    • 23400

    #2
    I'll get the popcorn.... this seat is taken Nom Nom..
    i like waffles

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    • d-null
      . . .
      • Apr 2007
      • 13724

      #3
      pretty intense first post....

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      • AngelUS
        Registered User
        • Oct 2005
        • 23

        #4
        d-null, do you know this anekdote?

        - Son, are you not voiceless?
        - There were just nothing to say for this time

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        • lazycash
          Troll Patrol
          • Aug 2002
          • 15214

          #5
          Damn, haven't seen fnp mentioned in years, used to promote them about 8 years ago. I was ready to go with the scammer explanation, but if you have indeed earned 48k with them then something seems fishy and its pretty crappy that you can't at least get a first hand specific explanation from Dave.
          "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

          Its crazy..."

          VenusBlogger

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          • baddog
            So Fucking Banned
            • Apr 2001
            • 107089

            #6
            Originally posted by lazycash
            Damn, haven't seen fnp mentioned in years, used to promote them about 8 years ago. I was ready to go with the scammer explanation, but if you have indeed earned 48k with them then something seems fishy and its pretty crappy that you can't at least get a first hand specific explanation from Dave.
            Have to admit, I did not know they were still around.

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            • AngelUS
              Registered User
              • Oct 2005
              • 23

              #7
              lazycash, yeah, I was shocked too.

              Before submit this topic to public discussion, I tried to contact him (and his team) within a month, but received no reply.

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              • Pornwolf
                Drunk and Unruly
                • Jan 2002
                • 22712

                #8
                Originally posted by baddog
                Have to admit, I did not know they were still around.
                It surprised me as well.
                I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                Webair, bitches.

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                • bobby666
                  boots are my religion
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 21765

                  #9
                  thanks for info, just wanted to build some sites there

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                  • geirlur
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2001
                    • 2025

                    #10
                    thanks, I'm staying away from them..
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                    • AngelUS
                      Registered User
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 23

                      #11
                      You're welcome.

                      IMHO, if you are planning to close the project, it's good idea - to pay money that should be payed. But it's not for Dave

                      Interesting facts from FNP: since I begin to work with it (since 2005) there was old and poor design. But there were a lot of signups and rebills. FNP looked abandoned, but it brings money. And in Janury 2009 the wonder happened - FNP was redesigned. Adult Insider's team asked me - what I need to improve in FNP in order to increase my sales.

                      I even did not think that this is the beginning of the end.

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                      • Michael O
                        More Cowbell
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 10607

                        #12
                        Not surprised well, I am surprised they are still around but not that they are trying not to pay.
                        They are the one of very few programs that I've had problems getting paid from I used both FNP and the sister program they started never did much with the sister program had $50 in my account for more than 1 year then got a few sales to put me over the $100 minimum payout, never received the payout and when I asked about it I were told I had not made the minimum payout.
                        I told then I had $50 already from more than a year before and were told they did not keep keep stats that long or something similar to that.
                        I also got the run around and were sent from one guy to another and the answers I got from them left me with the impression that they were a couple of arrogant and not caring about their webmasters.
                        Truth Teller

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                        • AngelUS
                          Registered User
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 23

                          #13
                          Michael O, when my account was active few days ago, I could see stats for 2005 year.

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                          • Michael O
                            More Cowbell
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 10607

                            #14
                            Yeah but this were in 2003 or something like that good luck with getting your money.
                            Truth Teller

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                            • AngelUS
                              Registered User
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 23

                              #15
                              Michael O, yeah, luck - is all I need. Now I don't beleive in honesty.

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                              • Gnus
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 577

                                #16
                                Here's a bump ya.

                                Gary
                                ICQ -73665782
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                                • AngelUS
                                  Registered User
                                  • Oct 2005
                                  • 23

                                  #17
                                  Daaave, where are you? Don't be shy, answer

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                                  • u-Bob
                                    there's no $$$ in porn
                                    • Jul 2005
                                    • 33063

                                    #18

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                                    • Gnus
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2005
                                      • 577

                                      #19
                                      Still no response from FNP. Here's a bump for ya.

                                      Gary
                                      ICQ -73665782
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                                      • AngelUS
                                        Registered User
                                        • Oct 2005
                                        • 23

                                        #20
                                        Yep. I still can't beleive. Almost 5 years of common work and after that - so wonderful end

                                        I offered my help to Dave (of course, not for free), to make FNP attractive both for adverts and surfers. But he decided to make FreeNetPass dead. Good choice

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                                        • Gnus
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Feb 2005
                                          • 577

                                          #21
                                          A thread where a guy is owed less than 500 is 13 plus pages and yours gets lost in the shuffle. Here's a bump for ya.

                                          Gary
                                          ICQ -73665782
                                          Domains for sale - milfwatch.com $2k, pornnut.com $500, assforu.com $2K, xxxratedonly.com $1K

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                                          • Gnus
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Feb 2005
                                            • 577

                                            #22
                                            Bump for payment.

                                            Gary
                                            ICQ -73665782
                                            Domains for sale - milfwatch.com $2k, pornnut.com $500, assforu.com $2K, xxxratedonly.com $1K

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                                            • Gnus
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2005
                                              • 577

                                              #23
                                              During 1 Jul 2009 - 15 Nov 2009 I made $1409 on 18 signups and 64 rebills.

                                              The kick is the ass about all this is the 64 rebills that you not going to see. So your actually not getting paid for a whole lot more than what is owed to you right now.

                                              Gary
                                              ICQ -73665782
                                              Domains for sale - milfwatch.com $2k, pornnut.com $500, assforu.com $2K, xxxratedonly.com $1K

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                                              • katharos
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Nov 2005
                                                • 1515

                                                #24
                                                i will also bump this as i hate assholes ...

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                                                • AtlantisCash
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Dec 2005
                                                  • 3179

                                                  #25
                                                  Bump bump bump
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                                                  • AngelUS
                                                    Registered User
                                                    • Oct 2005
                                                    • 23

                                                    #26
                                                    I still don't understand - where's FreeNetPass' owner Dave?

                                                    Nothing to reply, Dave?

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                                                    • »Rob Content«
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Dec 2006
                                                      • 4348

                                                      #27
                                                      That's insane

                                                      they banned me there for asking questions as well

                                                      good way to cover things up

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                                                      • AngelUS
                                                        Registered User
                                                        • Oct 2005
                                                        • 23

                                                        #28
                                                        »Rob Content«, did you asked "who still works in FNP?" as I did?
                                                        Or what the questions?

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                                                        • nickutis
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                          • 719

                                                          #29
                                                          Wow, that's shitty. Go with sexkey, they pay on time and without excuses..

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                                                          • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Apr 2004
                                                            • 11190

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                                            Have to admit, I did not know they were still around.
                                                            Same here.
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                                                            • ruff
                                                              I have a plan B
                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                              • 5499

                                                              #31
                                                              This is just the beginning. You're probably not going to get paid and one of these days they just won't be there anymore.
                                                              CryptoFeeds

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                                                              • AngelUS
                                                                Registered User
                                                                • Oct 2005
                                                                • 23

                                                                #32
                                                                nickutis, I'm already there. But unfortunately SexKey don't have revshare program (as it was in FNP).

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                                                                • NetHorse
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2006
                                                                  • 3526

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Man these program owners are scum, I'm always weary now before I sign up for a new program. Just file a BBB complaint as well as sue them in small claims court. IT DOES NOT TAKE THAT MUCH TIME! These pricks need to know that they can't just say, "Fuck you I'm not going to pay you, end of discussion."
                                                                  Last edited by NetHorse; 12-10-2009, 05:31 AM.
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                                                                  • AngelUS
                                                                    Registered User
                                                                    • Oct 2005
                                                                    • 23

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I know that court - is very expensive pleasure. IMHO, Dave knows it too.

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                                                                    • Overload
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jul 2005
                                                                      • 3185

                                                                      #35
                                                                      bump for a pissed affiliate
                                                                      There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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                                                                      • NetHorse
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Dec 2006
                                                                        • 3526

                                                                        #36
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                                                                        • Loch
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                          • 7674

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Him not willing to respond pretty much says it all.....
                                                                          Just odd that he wouldent think about his personal rep, especially if this is a case of 2 sides to one story.

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                                                                          • AngelUS
                                                                            Registered User
                                                                            • Oct 2005
                                                                            • 23

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Money is better than good personal reputation

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                                                                            • Gnus
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                              • 577

                                                                              #39
                                                                              They might be going belly up like SatanCash. Here's a Bump.

                                                                              Gary
                                                                              ICQ -73665782
                                                                              Domains for sale - milfwatch.com $2k, pornnut.com $500, assforu.com $2K, xxxratedonly.com $1K

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                                                                              • AngelUS
                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                • Oct 2005
                                                                                • 23

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Gnus, there is a little difference: SatanCash' site tells us that affiliate program is closed.

                                                                                And FreeNetPass' webmasters page tells us:
                                                                                'Bi-weekly paychecks! We pay twice a month, on time, every time. Over $15 million paid since 2001!'

                                                                                Yep, on time and every time.

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