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theking 11-29-2009 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16596160)
#1. Spread the knowledge in hopes you do you own research and spread it as well.

#2. Acknowldge that you are being lied to

#3. I'm taking it on legally. I have official declared my stance on the matter in a notarized affidavit with the court requesting the information either be confirmed or denied in writing via the DA with full commercial liability of the person answering. I used what they are using against them. They either respond in writing or the file goes away and likely me too. :1orglaugh We'll find out soon enough..

So you are spreading the knowledge daily on a pornographer BB...whom are considered to be...by the majority of society...one step above the lowest of the low...in our society.

You want the people to acknowledge that we are being lied to and that will correct the problem of our being "slaves"?

You have officially delcared you stance on what matter...and you are requesting what specific information...be confirmed or denied...and how does/will this correct the problem of you being a "slave"?

onwebcam 11-29-2009 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16596176)
So you are spreading the knowledge daily on a pornographer BB...whom are considered to be...by the majority of society...one step above the lowest of the low...in our society.

Not just here, many places.

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16596176)
You want the people to acknowledge that we are being lied to and that will correct the problem of our being "slaves"?

Some people want to be slaves. I guess it's for that person to decide. Shouldn't it be? As for me. Give me liberty or give me death.

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16596176)
You have officially delcared you stance on what matter...and you are requesting what specific information...be confirmed or denied...and how does/will this correct the problem of you being a "slave"?

They assume that we all have agreed to these hidden contracts. The term they like to use is "silent acquiescence." I want them to show me these supposed contracts. If they can't produce them or refuse to then they can't say that I am a party to them.

theking 11-29-2009 01:15 AM

Your answers to my questions...in my opinion are weak...and do not have any substance of import.

This slave and about 40% of the people I know that are long time friends...have done very well for themselves in this society...financially...and most other ways. Old school mates of mine that came from lower middle class homes and spent years themselves as lower middle class to solid middle class are now millionaires to multimillionaires...property wise or investment wise...and to my knowledge are very contented "slaves". My father was a military man (he was a Major so could have been considered to be middle class for his times) and I have done well for myself...financially...and most other ways. If it were not for my health that was sacrificed in the service of my country...this would be one well contented "slave".

onwebcam 11-29-2009 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16596202)
Your answers to my questions...in my opinion are weak...and do not have any substance of import.

This slave and about 40% of the people I know that are long time friends...have done very well for themselves in this society...financially...and most other ways. Old school mates of mine that came from lower middle class homes and spent years themselves as lower middle class to solid middle class are now millionaires to multimillionaires...property wise or investment wise...and to my knowledge are very contented "slaves". My father was a military man (he was a Major so could have been considered to be middle class for his times) and I have done well for myself...financially...and most other ways. If it were not for my health that was sacrificed in the service of my country...this would be one well contented "slave".

What if one day your "owners" decided there was no use for you any more? As in you and perhaps billions of others? I mean really. What else do they need you for? If you were them how would you go about taking care of that? Would you perhaps spread a deadly disease? Maybe break down the society? Break them down financially, kick them out of their homes, starve them in mass?

slavdogg 11-29-2009 02:20 AM

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nation-x 11-29-2009 07:25 AM

Where is Neo when we need him?

RyuLion 11-29-2009 12:06 PM

Goodbye US of Lame (America)
Land of the Consumer (Free)

marketsmart 11-29-2009 01:13 PM

this thread is another fine example of what is wrong with the world. in days of old, people used to have healthy debates and actually listen to each others points regardless of how far fetched they seemed or even if one had an opposite opinion.

these days we immediately jump on 1 side and hold that position often without the ability to use facts to support ones opposition.

what i find even more fascinating is that when sitting with people of higher intelligence and typically those that have had a lot of success in their lives tend to listen more than they speak...

and when they do have something to say its thought out and rarely insulting :2 cents:

BFT3K 11-29-2009 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 16597146)
this thread is another fine example of what is wrong with the world. in days of old, people used to have healthy debates and actually listen to each others points regardless of how far fetched they seemed or even if one had an opposite opinion.

these days we immediately jump on 1 side and hold that position often without the ability to use facts to support ones opposition.

what i find even more fascinating is that when sitting with people of higher intelligence and typically those that have had a lot of success in their lives tend to listen more than they speak...

and when they do have something to say its thought out and rarely insulting :2 cents:

When you are reprimanded by a homicidal maniac, who clearly resides in an institution for the criminally insane, you have to take a moment for reflection. Can't we all just get along?

Dcat 11-29-2009 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16596009)
I posted the proof at least 20 fucking times on this board asshole. I guess I have to spoon feed your ass too? I'll go dig it all up for you since you obviously want to be taught rather than learn for yourself.

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16596132)
Yeah I definitely do lose my cool with fools.

I stand corrected. I missed that.

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16596163)
Unfortunately people like you only serve to distract from the many real issues that we currently face as the growth of big government bureaucracy and centralized planning marches on in the US and the EU. The current attempts to socialize healthcare and allow economic policy to be controlled by UN bureaucrats through the absurd mechanism of "climate change" agreements, combined with unlimited immigration, speech codes, hate crimes (and various other thought crimes) and paramilitary police forces represent a real threat to what remains of our freedoms.

Yes, those are valid and far-reaching issues that you raise. ..So why not debate the issues with facts, avoid the insults, and let the chips fall where they may? It would be much healthier and everyone would learn a lot more from a more pragmatic approach.

Vendzilla 11-29-2009 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 16596018)
Do you think a Republican president would be able to change the status quo? Obama looks like he is failing, because he is trying to change things, so he is facing fierce resistance.

An Independent president would be able to do NOTHING, as the DC game has only 2 sides, which is what the special interests count on, and support entirely, as they are able to divide and conquer.

Between Obama and McCain/Palin I am still very happy with the decision.

The Republicans dominated the congress for 12 years! You can trace back the corp take-over of the US all the way to the 20's as you've done, but the last 8 years were out of control! It was corp corruption on fucking speed!

Again, I do not blame Obama whatsoever, and would vote for him again in a second.

hhhmmm, the dems have had the house and the senate for the last 3 years, they got in on the promise of change , still waiting for that one. Or is this the change they were talking about?

During Reagan's presidency, federal income tax rates were lowered significantly with the signing of the bipartisan Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981. Real gross domestic product (GDP) growth recovered strongly after the 1982 recession and grew during his eight years in office at an annual rate of 3.4% per year. Unemployment peaked at 10.8% percent in December 1982?higher than any time since the Great Depression?then dropped during the rest of Reagan's presidency. Sixteen million new jobs were created, while inflation significantly decreased. The net effect of all Reagan-era tax bills was a 1% decrease in government revenues when compared to Treasury Department revenue estimates from the Administration's first post-enactment January budgets.However, federal Income Tax receipts almost doubled from 1980 to 1989, rising from $308.7Bn to $549.0Bn. Reagan also revised the tax code with the bipartisan Tax Reform Act of 1986

BFT3K 11-29-2009 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 16597286)
hhhmmm, the dems have had the house and the senate for the last 3 years, they got in on the promise of change , still waiting for that one. Or is this the change they were talking about?

During Reagan's presidency, federal income tax rates were lowered significantly with the signing of the bipartisan Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981. Real gross domestic product (GDP) growth recovered strongly after the 1982 recession and grew during his eight years in office at an annual rate of 3.4% per year. Unemployment peaked at 10.8% percent in December 1982?higher than any time since the Great Depression?then dropped during the rest of Reagan's presidency. Sixteen million new jobs were created, while inflation significantly decreased. The net effect of all Reagan-era tax bills was a 1% decrease in government revenues when compared to Treasury Department revenue estimates from the Administration's first post-enactment January budgets.However, federal Income Tax receipts almost doubled from 1980 to 1989, rising from $308.7Bn to $549.0Bn. Reagan also revised the tax code with the bipartisan Tax Reform Act of 1986

Rather than my knee-jerk response to this, which would be basically taking shots at how many BAD things Reagan did while he was in office, and piss off all of the Reagan worshipers who read these threads, I am going to take the homicidal maniac's advice and just say "Yeah, you got a good point there buddy. Hope you are having a very nice day!"

Vendzilla 11-29-2009 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 16597303)
Rather than my knee-jerk response to this, which would be basically taking shots at how many BAD things Reagan did while he was in office, and piss off all of the Reagan worshipers who read these threads, I am going to take the homicidal maniac's advice and just say "Yeah, you got a good point there buddy. Hope you are having a very nice day!"

Let weigh in on the things that happened during his presidency, give me your best shot

Cold war ended
Berlin Wall came down, something that Obama didn't think was worth his time
Air traffic controllers' strike, handled
Inflation down from 12% to 4%
massive tax cuts
Reagan signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act in 1986. The act made it illegal to knowingly hire or recruit illegal immigrants, too bad no one is enforcing this.
Unemployment went from 10.8% to 5.5%
His approval rating at the end of his presidency was 64%

My daughter serves on the USS Ronald Reagan, so yeah, I like the guy!

dav3 11-29-2009 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 16597343)
Berlin Wall came down

You can thank David Hasselhoff for this.

:1orglaugh

TheSenator 11-29-2009 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 16597343)
Let weigh in on the things that happened during his presidency, give me your best shot

Cold war ended
Berlin Wall came down, something that Obama didn't think was worth his time
Air traffic controllers' strike, handled
Inflation down from 12% to 4%
massive tax cuts
Reagan signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act in 1986. The act made it illegal to knowingly hire or recruit illegal immigrants, too bad no one is enforcing this.
Unemployment went from 10.8% to 5.5%
His approval rating at the end of his presidency was 64%

My daughter serves on the USS Ronald Reagan, so yeah, I like the guy!

You seem like a level headed dude with common sense and extremely smart since you worked for a high end company.

Having said that....

Your politics seem utterly ridiculous and your line of thought seems off.

Did you collect unemployment recently?

Did you receive mail recently?

Have you ever worked for an adult company?

Just because you child serves on a tax payer ship that protects our freedoms and named after a Hollywood actor named Ronaldo Reagan ............ Doesn't mean you have to suck his cock.


Anyway, I'll let you stew in your hypocrisy and conflicting thoughts in your head.

Vendzilla 11-29-2009 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 16597480)
You seem like a level headed dude with common sense and extremely smart since you worked for a high end company.

Thank you
Quote:

Having said that....

Your politics seem utterly ridiculous and your line of thought seems off.

Did you collect unemployment recently?
Employers pay for unemployment insurance which funds it
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Did you receive mail recently?
I get very little mail, I try to get everything I can digitally, even pay my bills thru bill pay from my bank
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Have you ever worked for an adult company?
I have and I'm curious as to if you think the current White House has any problems shuting us down? Congress and senate are all ready trying to pass more taxes and regs on us, Reagan's presidency was around before the internet, remember, Gore invented it! They shut out Fox news, thats called censorship if you didn't know and that process of thinking is this business's biggest threat!
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Just because you child serves on a tax payer ship that protects our freedoms and named after a Hollywood actor named Ronaldo Reagan ............ Doesn't mean you have to suck his cock.


Anyway, I'll let you stew in your hypocrisy and conflicting thoughts in your head.
Actually I was in the military myself when he took office and have alot more respect for him because he got my ass out of the indian ocean where I was off the coast of Iran between the coast and the fleet for 64 days under water. The fact my daughter is on the Ronnie Reagan is only a bonus.

theking 11-29-2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 16597343)
Let weigh in on the things that happened during his presidency, give me your best shot

Cold war ended
Berlin Wall came down, something that Obama didn't think was worth his time
Air traffic controllers' strike, handled
Inflation down from 12% to 4%
massive tax cuts
Reagan signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act in 1986. The act made it illegal to knowingly hire or recruit illegal immigrants, too bad no one is enforcing this.
Unemployment went from 10.8% to 5.5%
His approval rating at the end of his presidency was 64%

My daughter serves on the USS Ronald Reagan, so yeah, I like the guy!

Let us not forget that he was also the first modern day President to borrow money from a foreign country and quadrupled the national debt during his terms in office...which has led to our downhill slide.

BFT3K 11-29-2009 09:43 PM

I'm not saying anything.

Just passing through.

Nothing to see here.

Oh look, a video!

Who added this to the thread?



https://youtube.com/watch?v=QTcL6Xc_eMM

onwebcam 11-29-2009 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 16598291)
I'm not saying anything.

Just passing through.

Nothing to see here.

Oh look, a video!

Who added this to the thread?



https://youtube.com/watch?v=QTcL6Xc_eMM

Was that before or after the pumped him full of lead?

Vendzilla 11-29-2009 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16597623)
Let us not forget that he was also the first modern day President to borrow money from a foreign country and quadrupled the national debt during his terms in office...which has led to our downhill slide.


He can't be blamed for what happened after him, right now what he borrowed is a very small amount to whats happening now, at least Reagan got something for it

dav3 11-29-2009 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 16598291)

"Yo Reagan, speed this shit up. I got hookers, ecstasy and viagra waiting in the oval office."

american pervert 11-30-2009 09:33 AM

it doesn't matter who is the president when they all have the same puppet master- corporate america/big business

_Richard_ 11-30-2009 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 16598305)
He can't be blamed for what happened after him, right now what he borrowed is a very small amount to whats happening now, at least Reagan got something for it

don't know much about Reagan and his politics, but from what i read, he started a lot of balls rolling.

Sped things up!

seeric 11-30-2009 10:18 AM

meh, fuck it, i'm prepared mentally and financially to move to a third world country if need be. save me a flat in buenos aires.

onwebcam 11-30-2009 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by seeric (Post 16599836)
meh, fuck it, i'm prepared mentally and financially to move to a third world country if need be. save me a flat in buenos aires.

You won't need to go anywhere to be in one.. Just use said preparations to live in one right here.

art914 11-30-2009 02:09 PM

i watched the entire video.. while there are some truths like the fed reserve, etc, this videos promotes fear mongering and just plain stupid

1) you dont have to watch tv
2) the government is not evil
3) the chinese will kick are ass real soon. the international is a multipolar world. there are so many nations who are not always w/ the west like russia, china, iran, india, argentina, etc - heck even france. there has been a cyber war with china for years now.

onwebcam 11-30-2009 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by art914 (Post 16600567)
i watched the entire video.. while there are some truths like the fed reserve, etc, this videos promotes fear mongering and just plain stupid

1) you dont have to watch tv
2) the government is not evil
3) the chinese will kick are ass real soon. the international is a multipolar world. there are so many nations who are not always w/ the west like russia, china, iran, india, argentina, etc - heck even france. there has been a cyber war with china for years now.

1) no you don't but a large majority of people are glued to it 24/7 and consider it the only truth and source of information there is.
2) most people within it are your ordinary average joe "just doing their job" but the problem is #3
3) All of those people that you mention meet many times a year. They shake each others hands pat each other on the back etc etc. Most of what you described is playing the population off on each other so people aren't paying attention to what they are doing.

art914 11-30-2009 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16600583)
1) no you don't but 99% of people are glued to it 24/7 and consider it the only truth there is.
2) most people within it are your ordinary average joe "just doing their job" but the problem is #3
3) All of those people that you mention meet many times a year. They shake each others hands pat each other on the back etc etc. Most of which you describe is playing the population off on each other so people aren't paying attention to what they are doing.

how do you know 99% of the people are stuck to the tv? dont you have any friends who are internet junkies like you and i?

since when shaking hands mean doing something sneaky behind our backs?

in a recent display by china when obama went to visit, it was clear that CHINA does not kowtow to the US. they did not even broadcast obama's visit except on a chinese english channel which 99% of the chinese population dont even watch. if you havent notice, china operates on a 180 degree opposite political system. they dont give a fuck about the west except for their technology and business. china in itself dispell "the fall of the republic"

D Ghost 11-30-2009 02:26 PM

good flick

onwebcam 11-30-2009 02:28 PM

If you want to see how dumbed down most of the general public is here's a great example.



This is his second attempt to pretty much give away that coin.

onwebcam 11-30-2009 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by art914 (Post 16600607)
how do you know 99% of the people are stuck to the tv? dont you have any friends who are internet junkies like you and i?

since when shaking hands mean doing something sneaky behind our backs?

in a recent display by china when obama went to visit, it was clear that CHINA does not kowtow to the US. they did not even broadcast obama's visit except on a chinese english channel which 99% of the chinese population dont even watch. if you havent notice, china operates on a 180 degree opposite political system. they dont give a fuck about the west except for their technology and business. china in itself dispell "the fall of the republic"

Obama's visit to China?

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/939737-obama-co-ink-deal-impeachment.html

art914 11-30-2009 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16600618)
If you want to see how dumbed down most of the general public is here's a great example.



This is his second attempt to pretty much give away that coin.

"how much is an oz of gold worth?"

random lady: " 38 cents"

lol

ask any general public in southeast asia and they will tell you spot on how much gold is worth

ask any general public in america how much the iphone goes for and they can tell you spot on how much it sells for in the store

it really depends on the subject and whether it's relevant to their everyday activities.

art914 11-30-2009 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16600667)

exactly, it's all business - capitalism. that's what china is about.

it has nothing to do what the video was saying.

onwebcam 11-30-2009 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by art914 (Post 16600687)
"how much is an oz of gold worth?"

random lady: " 38 cents"

lol

ask any general public in southeast asia and they will tell you spot on how much gold is worth

ask any general public in america how much the iphone goes for and they can tell you spot on how much it sells for in the store

it really depends on the subject and whether it's relevant to their everyday activities.

You're starting to get the point..

art914 11-30-2009 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16600706)
You're starting to get the point..

but how are they dumb down just because they're not in tune with the gold market?

heck i dont follow other commodities, does that mean im dumb down?

onwebcam 11-30-2009 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by art914 (Post 16600716)
but how are they dumb down just because they're not in tune with the gold market?

heck i dont follow other commodities, does that mean im dumb down?

That's just one example..

dav3 11-30-2009 03:25 PM



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Some sau I'm negative
But they're not positive
But what I got to give...
The media says this

RyuLion 11-30-2009 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16600618)
If you want to see how dumbed down most of the general public is here's a great example.



This is his second attempt to pretty much give away that coin.

Only in America..


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