this stops short of identifying the whole thing as an illusion. communism, capitalism, we are all victims of the same conspiracy.. maybe someday our grandkids will wake up..

I actually agree with you that Obama has some idiots onboard. Hopefully some of them are cut loose as time goes on. The inclusion of lobbyists is especially counter-productive, and unfortunate. I guess when our dept of the treasury is riddled with Goldman Sachs executives the fight is as difficult as it gets.

The whole damn White House is full of these fuckwads. Obama isn't going to do shit. Giving Bernanke 4 more years should show you that. Gheitner's replacement they only changed the name of the thieving institution.. JPMorgan.. All of these people are the ones who got us in this mess and they are the one's selected to clean it up? Yeah right. More like cover their asses and make sure their friends and themselves don't lose their asses. Sticking all of us with the bill.

So rather than defend a statement which is demonstrably false and obviously absurd you proceed to regurgitate the same talking points and insult my intelligence (which is particularity amusing coming from you)??? There is not a single word in your response which supports your outrageous claims. :1orglaugh

I left the country.

I posted the proof at least 20 fucking times on this board asshole. I guess I have to spoon feed your ass too? I'll go dig it all up for you since you obviously want to be taught rather than learn for yourself.

:error

But anyway...

Which of his points were false?

Do you think a Republican president would be able to change the status quo? Obama looks like he is failing, because he is trying to change things, so he is facing fierce resistance.

An Independent president would be able to do NOTHING, as the DC game has only 2 sides, which is what the special interests count on, and support entirely, as they are able to divide and conquer.

Between Obama and McCain/Palin I am still very happy with the decision.

The Republicans dominated the congress for 12 years! You can trace back the corp take-over of the US all the way to the 20's as you've done, but the last 8 years were out of control! It was corp corruption on fucking speed!

Again, I do not blame Obama whatsoever, and would vote for him again in a second.

All great empires must fall.

The one I fucking quoted two times you inbred imbecile. onwebcam is clearly mentally ill.... what is your fucking excuse? :winkwink:

Oh and you live on a different planet so you can just be the judgmental observer finding our faults? FUCK YOU sir..

The IRS is not a U.S. Government Agency. It is an Agency of the IMF. (Diversified Metal Products v. IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No. 26, Public Law 102-391.)

The IMF is an Agency of the UN. (Blacks Law Dictionary 6th Ed. Pg. 816)

The U.S. Has not had a Treasury since 1921. (41 Stat. Ch.214 pg. 654)

The U.S. Treasury is now the IMF. (Presidential Documents Volume 29-No.4 pg. 113, 22 U.S.C. 285-288)

The United States does not have any employees because there is no longer a United States. No more reorganizations. After over 200 years of operating under bankruptcy its finally over. (Executive Order 12803) Do not personate one of the creditors or share holders or you will go to Prison.18 U.S.C. 914

The FCC, CIA, FBI, NASA and all of the other alphabet gangs were never part of the United States government. Even though the "US Government" held shares of stock in the various Agencies. (U.S. V. Strang , 254 US 491, Lewis v. US, 680 F.2d, 1239)

Social Security Numbers are issued by the UN through the IMF. The Application for a Social Security Number is the SS5 form. The Department of the Treasury (IMF) issues the SS5 not the Social Security Administration. The new SS5 forms do not state who or what publishes them, the earlier SS5 forms state that they are Department of the Treasury forms. You can get a copy of the SS5 you filled out by sending form SSA-L996 to the SS Administration. (20 CFR chapter 111, subpart B 422.103 (b) (2) (2) Read the cites above)

There are no Judicial courts in America and there has not been since 1789. Judges do not enforce Statutes and Codes. Executive Administrators enforce Statutes and Codes. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464, Keller v. PE 261 US 428, 1 Stat. 138-178)

There have not been any Judges in America since 1789. There have just been Administrators. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464, Keller v. PE 261 US 428 1Stat. 138-178) 10. According to the GATT you must have a Social Security number. House Report (103-826)

New York City is defined in the Federal Regulations as the United Nations. Rudolph Gulliani stated on C-Span that "New York City was the capital of the World" and he was correct. (20 CFR chapter 111, subpart B 422.103 (b) (2) (2)

Social Security is not insurance or a contract, nor is there a Trust Fund. (Helvering v. Davis 301 US 619, Steward Co. V. Davis 301 US 548.)

You own no property, slaves can't own property. Read the Deed to the property that you think is yours. You are listed as a Tenant. (Senate Document 43, 73rd Congress 1st Session)

The most powerful court in America is not the United States Supreme Court but, the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania. (42 Pa.C.S.A. 502)

The Revolutionary War was a fraud. See (22, 23 and 24) 20. The King of England financially backed both sides of the Revolutionary war. (Treaty at Versailles July 16, 1782, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80)

You can not use the Constitution to defend yourself because you are not a party to it. (Padelford Fay & Co. v. The Mayor and Alderman of The City of Savannah 14 Georgia 438, 520)

America is a British Colony. (THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION, NOT A LAND MASS AND IT EXISTED BEFORE THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR AND THE BRITISH TROOPS DID NOT LEAVE UNTIL 1796.) Respublica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43, Treaty of Commerce 8 Stat 116, The Society for Propagating the Gospel, &c. V. New Haven 8 Wheat 464, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80, IRS Publication 6209, Articles of Association October 20, 1774.)

Britain is owned by the Vatican. (Treaty of 1213)

A 1040 form is for tribute paid to Britain. (IRS Publication 6209)

The Pope claims to own the entire planet through the laws of conquest and discovery. (Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1493)

We are slaves and own absolutely nothing not even what we think are our children.(Tillman v. Roberts 108 So. 62, Van Koten v. Van Koten 154 N.E. 146, Senate Document 43 & 73rd Congress 1st Session, Wynehammer v. People 13 N.Y. REP 378, 481)

" The People" does not include you and me. (Barron v. Mayor & City Council of Baltimore. 32 U.S. 243)

It is not the duty of the police to protect you. Their job is to protect the Corporation and arrest code breakers. Sapp v. Tallahasee, 348 So. 2nd. 363, Reiff v. City of Philadelphia, 477 F.Supp. 1262, Lynch v. N.C. Dept of Justice 376 S.E. 2nd. 247

We are Human capital. (Executive Order 13037)

Let's stop and think for a minute here everyone. I mean like seriously, stop, and think for just one minute.

There are either three possible realities here:

1. The OP is true, we're all pretty much slaves to the people who manage the money. There is nothing any of us could do unless there was some insane global revolution in which most of our current lives wouldn't exist any more, and if they did we would likely be chucking stones at birds for food.

2. The OP is a paranoid conspiracy theorist, and is utterly wasting his life and energy advocating a shit bird youtube video from an asshole preying on the low average intelligence of society. People are always going to eat this type of shit up, and there's no way to put an end to it because stupid people breed at a faster rate than the intelligent ones.

3. The OP is based on some slight truth, and our economic system is fucked. However the majority of it was all insane conspiracy theory nonsense. There's still nothing we can do though because corruption will always exist.

You are wasting your time no matter what the truth really is. :2 cents::2 cents:

#3.........

This?

That's the best you could do to shoot holes through the paragraphs of info he provided?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

*cue emotional name calling*

In the early 1900's

"Congress created the Bureau of Census (Appraisals) to begin the laborious task of cataloging, serial numbering and tracking the value of all personal and business property in the United States, as well as the humans therein for the purposes of appraising their value and preparing them for use as collateral against the nation’s debt under a proposed fiat debt money scheme to be implemented later on in 1913.
Ten years after its inception, the Department of Commerce was restructured as a stand-alone entity separating Labor into its own Department (15 USC 1501). The private, for-profit corporation, known as the Federal Reserve System was formed in the same year as the restructuring of the Department of Commerce. Under the new Federal Reserve System's plan, all new money would be brought into existence via loans to the government and citizens. The Bureau of Census (Appraisals), as a division of the Department of Commerce, is charged with keeping track of the number of human chattels whose labor is pledged against the national debt via the Federal income tax. The Bureau of Census (Appraisals) also appraises and keeps track of manufacturers, mineral industries, distributive trades, construction industries, agriculture, religious organizations and transportation. All towns, cities, and municipalities are required to annually submit a report of all new construction, multi-family units, new businesses, and any losses to the Bureau of Census (Appraisals) for the purposes of keeping a current valuation of all property in the United States.4"
In 1929

The Bureau of Census (Appraisals) undertook a bold new venture during the month of April, 1930. Over 100,000 persons were engaged in taking the census. At that time the usual questions regarding race, color, sex, age, occupation, whether married or single, and whether able to write were asked. In addition were such questions as the value of your home and whether owned or rented, whether you were the owner of a radio, and detailed questions regarding unemployment.5 This information was needed in order to assess a value on the chattels and collateral the Federal Reserve banks needed before loaning money to the soon to be bankrupt U.S. government.

The Under Secretary for Economic Affairs compiles all Census data and makes it available to those who are in need of it - such as banks seeking to determine how well a state or geographic area of people are able to collateralize a bond issue (loan) with their currently existing labor and property."


Then it took until 1933 when the US was declared bankrupt and Roosevelt offered up the New (Scam) Deal. At this same time he declared martial law and more or less declared the "citizens" of the United States enemies of the STATE with the War Powers Act of 1933. This suspended the constitution and common law.

In 1938 the Supreme court ruled on Erie Railroad Co V. Tompkins and gave way for more or less turning people into corporations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erie_Ra...o._v._Tompkins

Eventually leading to unconstitutional direct tax (income tax) on the people and our current "statute" legal system. Also this year FDR passed the Foreign Agents Registration Act which gave way for the agents of the IRS to collect taxes from the people of the US for a foreign entity.


In the early 40's thanks to the Erie Railroad Co V. Tompkins decision they were able to create U.C.C. which is based on a mixture of Maritime/Admiralty/Roman law and how most laws (statutes) are written and enforced today.

I suggest spending some time here

http://www.barefootsworld.net

It is true that I should not have called you an inbreed since it is quite possible that your idiocy stems from another cause. Please accept my sincere apologies. :)

You should have tons of info to actually make a case against, yet you are choosing to go the emotional route and throw out school-yard insults.

Perhaps you could help enlighten the rest of us lower humans by providing some info to prove onwebcam's claims false.

Or, you can continue to "regurgitate the same talking points and insult my intelligence".

:winkwink:

:1orglaugh

Good luck with that. I completely ignore cykoe6. He seems to be nothing more than a troll that hurls insults at anyone with a differing opinion or view. In his reality he seems to think that name calling somehow masks the glaring voids in his comprehension and understanding of issues he knows absolutely nothing about. Every time onwebcam brings up valid arguments, supported by evidence, out come the kindergarden insults. I never see onwebcam loose his cool, because he comes from a position of power and understanding, whereas cykoe6 always looses his cool and resorts to name calling. It's so weak.

That's all he's ever done. Never once provided anything to back up the shit he talks.

:winkwink:

Yeah I definitely do lose my cool with fools.

I once stated that I would not ever respond to you again...but I will ask you a few questions. You come here daily spewing forth all of this BS...but let me assume for the sake of argument that every word of the BS is truth and fact.

#1. What is it you hope to accomplish by posting all of this information?

#2. What would you specfically have us...the people..do to correct everything that you say is a problem...so that we the people are no longer "slaves"?

#3. What are you specifically doing...other than posting information on a pornographers BB...to correct everything that you say is a problem...so that you will no longer be a "slave"?

There is not much to say at this point. I am still waiting for you to post your proof that every dollar collected in income taxes goes to pay interest on debt. When you post the proof then I will acknowledge your brilliance (which has been acknowledged by so many others). I have a feeling I will be waiting a while....... as the last time I asked you to support an allegation you had to retract your statement because it was false.

Yea...... me too. :)

I'll have to find the quote and/or video. I believe it was Reagan who stated it.. But it may have been a senator on the floor.. Either way as usual you're picking out one detail and making EVERYTHING false. And perhaps you missed this portion

A 1040 form is for tribute paid to Britain. (IRS Publication 6209)

All taxpayers have an Individual Master File which is in code. By using IRS Publication 6209, which is over 400 pages, there is a blocking series which shows the taxpayer the type of tax that is being paid. Most taxpayers fall under a 300-399 blocking series, which 6209 states is reserved, but by going to BMF 300-399 which is the Business Master File in 6209 prior to 1991, this was U.S.-U.K. Tax Claims, meaning taxpayers are considered a business and involved in commerce and are held liable for taxes via a treaty between the U.S. and the U.K., payable to the U.K. The form that is supposed to be used for this is form 8288, FIRPTA-Foreign Investment Real Property Tax Account. The 8288 form is in the Law Enforcement Manual of the IRS, chapter 3. The OMB's-paper-Office of Management and Budget, in the Department of Treasury, List of Active Information collections, Approved Under Paperwork Reduction Act is where form 8288 is found under OMB number 1545-0902, which says U.S. with holding tax return for dispositions by foreign persons, of U.S. Form #8288, #8288a.

These codes have since been changed to read as follows: IMF 300-309, Barred Assessment, CP 55 generated valid for MFT-30, which is the code for the 1040 form. IMF 310-399 reads the same as IMF 300-309, BMF 390-399 reads U.S.-U.K. Tax Treaty Claims. Isn't it INCREDIBLE that a 1040 form is a payment of a tax to the U.K.? Everybody is always looking to 26 U.S.C. for the law that makes one liable for the so called Income Tax but, it is not in there because it is not a Tax, it is debt collection through a private contract called the Constitution of the United States Article Six, Section One and various agreements.

Perhaps you missed these questions?

#1. Spread the knowledge in hopes you do you own research and spread it as well.

#2. Acknowldge that you are being lied to

#3. I'm taking it on legally. I have official declared my stance on the matter in a notarized affidavit with the court requesting the information either be confirmed or denied in writing via the DA with full commercial liability of the person answering. I used what they are using against them. They either respond in writing or the file goes away and likely me too. :1orglaugh We'll find out soon enough..

I am quite shocked that you are unable to prove something which is obviously false. :1orglaugh

I am not saying everything you post or say is false. Your problem is that you are unable to separate fact from fiction and you mindlessly regurgitate information without considering whether it passes a basic sanity check. You are completely unable to determine what is reality and what is delusion so you are easily manipulated by two bit con artists like Alex Jones.

Unfortunately people like you only serve to distract from the many real issues that we currently face as the growth of big government bureaucracy and centralized planning marches on in the US and the EU. The current attempts to socialize healthcare and allow economic policy to be controlled by UN bureaucrats through the absurd mechanism of "climate change" agreements, combined with unlimited immigration, speech codes, hate crimes (and various other thought crimes) and paramilitary police forces represent a real threat to what remains of our freedoms.

Your insanity only serves to make the rest of us who care about these issues look like fools and raving lunatics. Whether you know it or not, you are a useful idiot for the big government commissars. :2 cents:

What you aren't understanding is that ALL ties into this... They know the jig is up on the old schemes. The federal Reserve is in it's last days. So they are changing those schemes to >> health care and climate change. Obama is really bringing on the new "New Deal" which is why he studied Roosevelt. The new scheme. He also studied Lincoln.. They were and are prepared for this..

So you are spreading the knowledge daily on a pornographer BB...whom are considered to be...by the majority of society...one step above the lowest of the low...in our society.

You want the people to acknowledge that we are being lied to and that will correct the problem of our being "slaves"?

You have officially delcared you stance on what matter...and you are requesting what specific information...be confirmed or denied...and how does/will this correct the problem of you being a "slave"?

Not just here, many places.

Some people want to be slaves. I guess it's for that person to decide. Shouldn't it be? As for me. Give me liberty or give me death.

They assume that we all have agreed to these hidden contracts. The term they like to use is "silent acquiescence." I want them to show me these supposed contracts. If they can't produce them or refuse to then they can't say that I am a party to them.

Your answers to my questions...in my opinion are weak...and do not have any substance of import.

This slave and about 40% of the people I know that are long time friends...have done very well for themselves in this society...financially...and most other ways. Old school mates of mine that came from lower middle class homes and spent years themselves as lower middle class to solid middle class are now millionaires to multimillionaires...property wise or investment wise...and to my knowledge are very contented "slaves". My father was a military man (he was a Major so could have been considered to be middle class for his times) and I have done well for myself...financially...and most other ways. If it were not for my health that was sacrificed in the service of my country...this would be one well contented "slave".

What if one day your "owners" decided there was no use for you any more? As in you and perhaps billions of others? I mean really. What else do they need you for? If you were them how would you go about taking care of that? Would you perhaps spread a deadly disease? Maybe break down the society? Break them down financially, kick them out of their homes, starve them in mass?

very well made flick, thanks for sharing !!

Where is Neo when we need him?

Goodbye US of Lame (America)
Land of the Consumer (Free)

this thread is another fine example of what is wrong with the world. in days of old, people used to have healthy debates and actually listen to each others points regardless of how far fetched they seemed or even if one had an opposite opinion.

these days we immediately jump on 1 side and hold that position often without the ability to use facts to support ones opposition.

what i find even more fascinating is that when sitting with people of higher intelligence and typically those that have had a lot of success in their lives tend to listen more than they speak...

and when they do have something to say its thought out and rarely insulting :2 cents:

When you are reprimanded by a homicidal maniac, who clearly resides in an institution for the criminally insane, you have to take a moment for reflection. Can't we all just get along?

I stand corrected. I missed that.

Yes, those are valid and far-reaching issues that you raise. ..So why not debate the issues with facts, avoid the insults, and let the chips fall where they may? It would be much healthier and everyone would learn a lot more from a more pragmatic approach.

hhhmmm, the dems have had the house and the senate for the last 3 years, they got in on the promise of change , still waiting for that one. Or is this the change they were talking about?

During Reagan's presidency, federal income tax rates were lowered significantly with the signing of the bipartisan Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981. Real gross domestic product (GDP) growth recovered strongly after the 1982 recession and grew during his eight years in office at an annual rate of 3.4% per year. Unemployment peaked at 10.8% percent in December 1982?higher than any time since the Great Depression?then dropped during the rest of Reagan's presidency. Sixteen million new jobs were created, while inflation significantly decreased. The net effect of all Reagan-era tax bills was a 1% decrease in government revenues when compared to Treasury Department revenue estimates from the Administration's first post-enactment January budgets.However, federal Income Tax receipts almost doubled from 1980 to 1989, rising from $308.7Bn to $549.0Bn. Reagan also revised the tax code with the bipartisan Tax Reform Act of 1986

Rather than my knee-jerk response to this, which would be basically taking shots at how many BAD things Reagan did while he was in office, and piss off all of the Reagan worshipers who read these threads, I am going to take the homicidal maniac's advice and just say "Yeah, you got a good point there buddy. Hope you are having a very nice day!"

Let weigh in on the things that happened during his presidency, give me your best shot

Cold war ended
Berlin Wall came down, something that Obama didn't think was worth his time
Air traffic controllers' strike, handled
Inflation down from 12% to 4%
massive tax cuts
Reagan signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act in 1986. The act made it illegal to knowingly hire or recruit illegal immigrants, too bad no one is enforcing this.
Unemployment went from 10.8% to 5.5%
His approval rating at the end of his presidency was 64%

My daughter serves on the USS Ronald Reagan, so yeah, I like the guy!

You can thank David Hasselhoff for this.

:1orglaugh

You seem like a level headed dude with common sense and extremely smart since you worked for a high end company.

Having said that....

Your politics seem utterly ridiculous and your line of thought seems off.

Did you collect unemployment recently?

Did you receive mail recently?

Have you ever worked for an adult company?

Just because you child serves on a tax payer ship that protects our freedoms and named after a Hollywood actor named Ronaldo Reagan ............ Doesn't mean you have to suck his cock.


Anyway, I'll let you stew in your hypocrisy and conflicting thoughts in your head.

Thank you
Employers pay for unemployment insurance which funds it
I get very little mail, I try to get everything I can digitally, even pay my bills thru bill pay from my bank
I have and I'm curious as to if you think the current White House has any problems shuting us down? Congress and senate are all ready trying to pass more taxes and regs on us, Reagan's presidency was around before the internet, remember, Gore invented it! They shut out Fox news, thats called censorship if you didn't know and that process of thinking is this business's biggest threat!
Actually I was in the military myself when he took office and have alot more respect for him because he got my ass out of the indian ocean where I was off the coast of Iran between the coast and the fleet for 64 days under water. The fact my daughter is on the Ronnie Reagan is only a bonus.

Let us not forget that he was also the first modern day President to borrow money from a foreign country and quadrupled the national debt during his terms in office...which has led to our downhill slide.

I'm not saying anything.

Just passing through.

Nothing to see here.

Oh look, a video!

Who added this to the thread?



https://youtube.com/watch?v=QTcL6Xc_eMM

Was that before or after the pumped him full of lead?

He can't be blamed for what happened after him, right now what he borrowed is a very small amount to whats happening now, at least Reagan got something for it