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rock-reed 11-23-2009 04:51 AM

I think iTunes works because of Micropayments.

katharos 11-23-2009 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFire (Post 16576235)
Yeah, you started very late compared to the golden times where we used to make tons of cash by just posting a link...

Just curious in what country are you and what is the average income there?

yes cause i started late i dont have to complain that sales are down as i dont remember the good old times :) and im from czech republic and average, i mean better average income is about 1500 usd per month, so i have nothing to complain about :winkwink:

Toni 11-23-2009 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by rock-reed (Post 16576527)
I think iTunes works because of Micropayments.

Yeah and plus that it is very easy to use, simple extremely user friendly

Sarah_Jayne 11-23-2009 06:45 AM

I see a lot of the smaller webmasters sort of 'waking up' and coming to terms with the fact they need to work hard again. People that had previously been really hard to get a reply from over email and/or icq are now coming out of the woodwork. I think those that actually are willing to work will be fine. It is those that think this is still 1997 that are going to have problems.

Jack Sparrow 11-23-2009 06:50 AM

Thats why we have the "noworries" program.

No worrying about conversion or sales. Make money the oldskool way by selling it per click :)

alias 11-23-2009 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFire (Post 16576237)
For example?

I was talking about this thread: https://gfy.com/it/939541-website-accept-cash.html or a voucher solution like it.

The Porn Nerd 11-23-2009 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by katharos (Post 16576656)
yes cause i started late i dont have to complain that sales are down as i dont remember the good old times :) and im from czech republic and average, i mean better average income is about 1500 usd per month, so i have nothing to complain about :winkwink:

Hey, how's the shooting over the in the Czech Republic? I'm thinking of visiting or doing an apartment-swap thng (I live in NYC so that shouldn't be a problem, EVERYONE wants to come HERE) and stay there for a month or two, to shoot content. Not the Glam high-priced girls but just average Czech 'amateurs'. Is this possible? Is it too expensive to even consider? LOL I started when you did, basically, and feel the way YOu do about sales: I don't remember 'the good ol' days' so it's ALL new to me.

Jensen 11-23-2009 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by katharos (Post 16576656)
yes cause i started late i dont have to complain that sales are down as i dont remember the good old times :) and im from czech republic and average, i mean better average income is about 1500 usd per month, so i have nothing to complain about :winkwink:

That's the crappy thing about working in Norway. Saleries are high up here, we are out of the financial crisis and the dollar is crap towards our currency :/

Sarah_Jayne 11-23-2009 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jensen (Post 16577365)
That's the crappy thing about working in Norway. Saleries are high up here, we are out of the financial crisis and the dollar is crap towards our currency :/

I was in Norway in July and I loved the place but it is probably the most expensive place I have ever been.

Argos88 11-23-2009 12:44 PM

A Lot of of programs have either closed down or are not paying webmasters.

2009 is the year where I have seen a lot of programs either quiting or not paying. Also a lot of webmasters, mostly small or average webmasters like gallery submitters, have quit and got a real job, because they can't pay their bills anymore.

Some gallery submitters are still trying to make a buck and working like slaves, submitting 5-10 galleries per day but they are stressed out because they can't keep their earnings, even by working harder than before. They will soon finish quiting and looking for new jobs.

I have never ever seen so many "I need a job" threads on GFY... never before like in 2009. Never seen so many "I'm selling my business and quitting for good" threads on GFY.

Do you want examples of this? Just do a search.

Barefootsies 11-23-2009 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 16577773)
A Lot of of programs have either closed down or are not paying webmasters.

2009 is the year where I have seen a lot of programs either quiting or not paying. Also a lot of webmasters, mostly small or average webmasters like gallery submitters, have quit and got a real job, because they can't pay their bills anymore.

Some gallery submitters are still trying to make a buck and working like slaves, submitting 5-10 galleries per day but they are stressed out because they can't keep their earnings, even by working harder than before. They will soon finish quiting and looking for new jobs.

I have never ever seen so many "I need a job" threads on GFY... never before like in 2009. Never seen so many "I'm selling my business and quitting for good" threads on GFY.

Do you want examples of this? Just do a search.

True dat.

There are a lot of old timer BROmaster generals selling everything off, or "retiring".

bdld 11-23-2009 12:51 PM

im buying if anyone's selling.

Argos88 11-23-2009 12:51 PM

And BTW, people are not going to buy something they can get for free.

When someone wants a porn movie they either go to torrents sites, forums or rapidshare sites.

Adult forums where you can grab rapidshare links of FULL DVDs have 4000 registered online users at all times... Insane.

You want to make money? Sell something that is not available for free.

Toni 11-23-2009 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 16577773)

Some gallery submitters are still trying to make a buck and working like slaves, submitting 5-10 galleries per day but they are stressed out because they can't keep their earnings, even by working harder than before. They will soon finish quiting and looking for new jobs.

around 10 years ago I used to make and submit around 15 galleries per day and before the TGP's I was making batches of 20-30 avs sites per day

seeandsee 11-23-2009 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mx8829 (Post 16575814)
Its all about quality traiffic. If you have good quality traffic, you will do well.

quality traffic is dead :(

gotekix 11-23-2009 01:13 PM

Things are surely more difficult nowadays than they were 10 years ago. But that being said, there is still a lot of money to be made you just have to work harder for it. Studying SEO and marketing helps a lot instead of just copying what other people are doing, try to be innovative and the sales will come in.

I know a lot of guys still making good money off their targeted traffic (affiliates not sponsors). So yes, it's possible.

WeDesignet Lisa 11-23-2009 01:23 PM

I'm making money with my little site in addition of making money from my design work as well. Things are good :)

Barefootsies 11-23-2009 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotekix (Post 16577906)
Studying SEO and marketing helps a lot instead of just copying what other people are doing, try to be innovative and the sales will come in.

I know a lot of guys still making good money off their targeted traffic (affiliates not sponsors). So yes, it's possible.

:winkwink: :thumbsup

Agent 488 11-23-2009 01:42 PM

plenty of free sites have been sold off or quietly went blank in the last few years.

it's easier for a free site operator to go from 10k a month to 6 and still survive then it is for someone who was making 3k a month to go to 1200.

datatank 11-23-2009 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16576129)

How many actually have/do the following...

1. An LLC?
2. A business checking account completely separate from their personal assets?
3. A CPA
4. Report and pay accurate taxes, including ePassporte money received?
5. Subscribe to and read the trades?
6. Make over $XXX,XXX.00 a year? Or even high $XX,XXX.00 profit?


:2 cents:


Are you saying this is the key to success?

Barefootsies 11-23-2009 02:00 PM

Hundie.

Quote:

Originally Posted by datatank (Post 16577999)
Are you saying this is the key to success?


:2 cents:

Jensen 11-23-2009 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash (Post 16577562)
I was in Norway in July and I loved the place but it is probably the most expensive place I have ever been.

Where in Norway did you go? Should have given me a shout if you came close to Bergen. Not easy for the export industry and a signup doesn't make me much either. I'm closer and closer to getting a $70-75k boring avg job myself :/ Thank god for microniches!

The Porn Nerd 11-23-2009 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 16577802)
And BTW, people are not going to buy something they can get for free.

When someone wants a porn movie they either go to torrents sites, forums or rapidshare sites.

Adult forums where you can grab rapidshare links of FULL DVDs have 4000 registered online users at all times... Insane.

You want to make money? Sell something that is not available for free.

COMPLETELY true (said the Webmaster - me - who spends hours sending out DMCAs to torrent sites, Spankwire, etc, but I digress) but here's something I, myself, would have to pay for and WILL have to pay for because no matter how hard and long (heh) I look on such free sites I cannot - repeat, CANNOT - find videos/films (full scenes/DVDs) of my Top Ten favorite all-time Porn Stars, ALL of whom (except for three) are from the 1990's, back when I gave a damn, I cannot find:

Chelsea Blue
Norma Jeane
Tabitha (just 'Tabitha', nothing else)
Vanessa Chase
Holli Woods
Nanna Gibson/Dina Jewel (same girl)

I could go on.....

Gotta go ONLINE and buy the DVD at $____ and have it mailed, etc. CANNOT find these girls for free.

There ya go: let's wait fifteen years and we'll make money again selling 'antique' or 'nostalgic' porn. Can you imagine???

The Porn Nerd 11-23-2009 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeDesignet Lisa (Post 16577938)
I'm making money with my little site in addition of making money from my design work as well. Things are good :)

As a Contributer to Lisa's design biz - Thank You Lisa, wonderful work - I can testify that her work is, well, wonderful. Heck, she put up with ME (the little design queen-y bitch that I am) so she's already gone through Hell and Back. Use her!! Yes, I meant that in a dirty way. Thanks again Lisa!

Agent 488 11-23-2009 04:21 PM

google pornstar name + torrent or pornstar name + rapidshare

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 16578473)
COMPLETELY true (said the Webmaster - me - who spends hours sending out DMCAs to torrent sites, Spankwire, etc, but I digress) but here's something I, myself, would have to pay for and WILL have to pay for because no matter how hard and long (heh) I look on such free sites I cannot - repeat, CANNOT - find videos/films (full scenes/DVDs) of my Top Ten favorite all-time Porn Stars, ALL of whom (except for three) are from the 1990's, back when I gave a damn, I cannot find:

Chelsea Blue
Norma Jeane
Tabitha (just 'Tabitha', nothing else)
Vanessa Chase
Holli Woods
Nanna Gibson/Dina Jewel (same girl)

I could go on.....

Gotta go ONLINE and buy the DVD at $____ and have it mailed, etc. CANNOT find these girls for free.

There ya go: let's wait fifteen years and we'll make money again selling 'antique' or 'nostalgic' porn. Can you imagine???


Nicky 11-23-2009 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jensen (Post 16577365)
That's the crappy thing about working in Norway. Saleries are high up here, we are out of the financial crisis and the dollar is crap towards our currency :/

About the same here :(

d-null 11-23-2009 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 16578473)
COMPLETELY true (said the Webmaster - me - who spends hours sending out DMCAs to torrent sites, Spankwire, etc, but I digress) but here's something I, myself, would have to pay for and WILL have to pay for because no matter how hard and long (heh) I look on such free sites I cannot - repeat, CANNOT - find videos/films (full scenes/DVDs) of my Top Ten favorite all-time Porn Stars, ALL of whom (except for three) are from the 1990's, back when I gave a damn, I cannot find:

Chelsea Blue
Norma Jeane
Tabitha (just 'Tabitha', nothing else)
Vanessa Chase
Holli Woods
Nanna Gibson/Dina Jewel (same girl)

I could go on.....

Gotta go ONLINE and buy the DVD at $____ and have it mailed, etc. CANNOT find these girls for free.

There ya go: let's wait fifteen years and we'll make money again selling 'antique' or 'nostalgic' porn. Can you imagine???



have you checked vintage-erotica-forum? :helpme :error

The Porn Nerd 11-23-2009 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 16579027)
have you checked vintage-erotica-forum? :helpme :error

Yes, I have - AND done the "+ Rapidshare" thing. Nada. problem is, porn from this era - 1995-2000 - kinda falls between the cracks (heh): not old enough to be 'vintage' and not new enough to be made in this 'rip it for free' era we live in. So I have to go out-of-pocket, which I never do because I would make myself feel creepy, jackin' it to porn stars fifteen years past their prime. Oh, SO sad. Now, if I could download it, in secret, in shame....brahahahahahahahahaha!!

But, I can't.

Sarah_Jayne 11-24-2009 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jensen (Post 16578245)
Where in Norway did you go? Should have given me a shout if you came close to Bergen. Not easy for the export industry and a signup doesn't make me much either. I'm closer and closer to getting a $70-75k boring avg job myself :/ Thank god for microniches!

We did a cruise that did the Fjords so we were in a number of places but it did include Bergen..also Olden and then the Briksdal glacier which was one the best things I have ever done.

Bergen was great but we went for a pizza that was the most expensive pizza ever but to be fair you get a great country in return.

Jensen 11-24-2009 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash (Post 16579601)
We did a cruise that did the Fjords so we were in a number of places but it did include Bergen..also Olden and then the Briksdal glacier which was one the best things I have ever done.

Bergen was great but we went for a pizza that was the most expensive pizza ever but to be fair you get a great country in return.

I spend most of my summers in Olden and walk to the glacier a few times every year. We have a cabin by the lake you (most likely) drove by and that's were I'm stuck with my laptop reading GFY. Nothing like a swim in the chilly icewater and a beer on the beach afterwards. Hope you had a good time.

Free pizza at my place if you ever return :)

Sarah_Jayne 11-24-2009 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jensen (Post 16579666)
I spend most of my summers in Olden and walk to the glacier a few times every year. We have a cabin by the lake you (most likely) drove by and that's were I'm stuck with my laptop reading GFY. Nothing like a swim in the chilly icewater and a beer on the beach afterwards. Hope you had a good time.

Free pizza at my place if you ever return :)

Well, thank you :)

We want to explore the country more for certain. I liked the fish market in Bergen too apart from the whale burgers :)

Here are my photo sets from the trip

Bergen
Olden and the Glacier
Flam

d-null 11-24-2009 02:51 AM

http://i50.tinypic.com/2jbpto5.jpg

Jensen 11-24-2009 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash (Post 16579669)
Well, thank you :)

We want to explore the country more for certain. I liked the fish market in Bergen too apart from the whale burgers :)

Here are my photo sets from the trip

Bergen
Olden and the Glacier
Flam

Thanks for sharing. Always nice to see what tourist shoot. To bad about the weather in Olden though :/ So much nicer with sunny weather as you can imagine.

Whale burgers suck, they forced us to eat that shit in the navy. Never seen so many soldiers at the pizzaplace afterwards.

Sarah_Jayne 11-24-2009 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jensen (Post 16579685)
Thanks for sharing. Always nice to see what tourist shoot. To bad about the weather in Olden though :/ So much nicer with sunny weather as you can imagine.

Whale burgers suck, they forced us to eat that shit in the navy. Never seen so many soldiers at the pizzaplace afterwards.

We were fine with the weather..it sort of added to the atmosphere. I never really associate glaciers with sunshine.

Sausage 11-24-2009 04:47 AM

This is bullshit.

Myself and a few others are helping people get into the business and have been for 4-5 months now, and they are making sales. This doomsday bullshit is utter rubbish .. sales and ratios aren't as good as they were but with the correct methods sales and income are easy as hell. I can't believe the attitudes here. You willing to do some work and follow some free suggestions hit me up .. can always use more people who don't subscribe to the doomsday crap and have a spine and worth ethic ... icq 15567120.

Some of you disgust me ... there is heaps of money in this industry!

alias 11-24-2009 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 16579678)

That's an awesome video.

Barefootsies 11-24-2009 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 16579899)
This is bullshit.

Myself and a few others are helping people get into the business and have been for 4-5 months now, and they are making sales. This doomsday bullshit is utter rubbish .. sales and ratios aren't as good as they were but with the correct methods sales and income are easy as hell. I can't believe the attitudes here. You willing to do some work and follow some free suggestions hit me up .. can always use more people who don't subscribe to the doomsday crap and have a spine and worth ethic ... icq 15567120.

Some of you disgust me ... there is heaps of money in this industry!

True fucking dat.

MasterBlow 11-24-2009 07:46 AM

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2007/03...AP_450x631.jpg

halfpint 11-24-2009 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 16579899)
This is bullshit.

Myself and a few others are helping people get into the business and have been for 4-5 months now, and they are making sales. This doomsday bullshit is utter rubbish .. sales and ratios aren't as good as they were but with the correct methods sales and income are easy as hell. I can't believe the attitudes here. You willing to do some work and follow some free suggestions hit me up .. can always use more people who don't subscribe to the doomsday crap and have a spine and worth ethic ... icq 15567120.

Some of you disgust me ... there is heaps of money in this industry!

Time to have a chat I think

wizzart 11-24-2009 08:12 AM

I think for peoples that this is not main biz, can't make enough money for life


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