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  • xmas13
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    • Dec 2004
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    Small government and private healthcare in Switzerland

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    Economists, political scientists, reporters and pundits spend too much of their time looking at dysfunctional societies and trying to explain why there are poverty, joblessness and hopelessness. In many ways, Haiti is easy to explain - no rule of law and 200 years of corrupt and incompetent governments. Switzerland is the polar opposite. It has almost no corruption and has the rule of law with honest, competent judges and government administrators. The question should be, "What can we learn from the Switzerlands of the world about how to do things right" rather than, "What is wrong with the Haitis of the world?" Switzerland manages to run a smaller government as a share of gross domestic product than the United States and most other countries while providing a higher level of service, security, prosperity and freedom. How does it do that?
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    • andrej_NDC
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      • May 2004
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      #2
      Their politicians don't steal as much as the others, that could be it. Each government should be able to live on 10-20% taxes and provide top notch social services for it...everything above is just wasted and stolen among those who are in power.

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        • MaDalton
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          • Feb 2004
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          #3
          not everything is so fine and dandy in switzerland as it sounds here. but maybe it starts with that they never went to war with anyone
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            • Brujah
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              • Jan 2001
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              #4
              Great country, and one of the strongest capitalist economies!

              Switzerland doesn't go around policing the rest of the world, starting and participating in wars, so doesn't need to spend trillions in that respect. If you suggest that here, you would be "soft."

              Switzerland has conscription of nearly all its citizens, they must serve in the military for a number of years. If you suggest that here, you would be an enemy of freedom and socialist or communist.

              Switzerland has mandatory universal health-insurance like everyone here is screaming against, and suggesting it will destroy the country.

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                • seeandsee
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                  #5
                  Originally posted by Brujah
                  Great country, and one of the strongest capitalist economies!

                  Switzerland doesn't go around policing the rest of the world, starting and participating in wars, so doesn't need to spend trillions in that respect. If you suggest that here, you would be "soft."

                  Switzerland has conscription of nearly all its citizens, they must serve in the military for a number of years. If you suggest that here, you would be an enemy of freedom and socialist or communist.

                  Switzerland has mandatory universal health-insurance like everyone here is screaming against, and suggesting it will destroy the country.
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                    • BIGTYMER
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                      • Nov 2004
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                      #6
                      I need to move there.

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                        • PlugRush Sascha
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                          • Jan 2004
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                          Switzerland is great. Pretty expensive to live there though.
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                            • BFT3K
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                              • Dec 2005
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                              Sounds like a great place, but with less than 8 million people in the whole country, it is bound to be more manageable to govern than a nation with many times their population. The state of NJ alone, is more populated, for example.

                              Good for them though - they seem to live well there.
                              Last edited by BFT3K; 04-10-2010, 08:02 AM.

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                                • MaDalton
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                                  • Feb 2004
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                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by BFT3K
                                  Sounds like a great place, but with less than 8 million people in the whole country, it is bound to be more manageable to govern than a nation with many times their population. The state of NJ alone, is more populated, for example.

                                  Good for them though - they seem to live well there.
                                  isn't it all relative?
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                                    • u-Bob
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                                      • Jul 2005
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                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Brujah
                                      Switzerland has conscription of nearly all its citizens, they must serve in the military for a number of years.
                                      and they get to take an assault rifle home afterwards...

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                                        • u-Bob
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                                          • Jul 2005
                                          • 33063
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by MaDalton
                                          isn't it all relative?
                                          q f t

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                                            • Vendzilla
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                                              • Mar 2004
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                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Brujah
                                              Great country, and one of the strongest capitalist economies!

                                              Switzerland doesn't go around policing the rest of the world, starting and participating in wars, so doesn't need to spend trillions in that respect. If you suggest that here, you would be "soft."

                                              Switzerland has conscription of nearly all its citizens, they must serve in the military for a number of years. If you suggest that here, you would be an enemy of freedom and socialist or communist.

                                              Switzerland has mandatory universal health-insurance like everyone here is screaming against, and suggesting it will destroy the country.
                                              In the US according to Article 1 Section 8 Clause 12 of the Constitution. Every citizen has an obligation to serve.

                                              They may have mandatory health insurance, but I doubt the unions and politicians and insurance companies and drug companies have their hands all over it their

                                              Originally posted by BFT3K
                                              Sounds like a great place, but with less than 8 million people in the whole country, it is bound to be more manageable to govern than a nation with many times their population. The state of NJ alone, is more populated, for example.

                                              Good for them though - they seem to live well there.
                                              LOL, yeah we have more illegal aliens here in the US getting free health insurance than their whole country does
                                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                              think about that

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                                                • IllTestYourGirls
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                                                  • Feb 2007
                                                  • 14311
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                  Sounds like a great place, but with less than 8 million people in the whole country, it is bound to be more manageable to govern than a nation with many times their population. The state of NJ alone, is more populated, for example.

                                                  Good for them though - they seem to live well there.
                                                  Yeah and how is NJ doing? SHOULD be in fine shape right? How is New York city doing? SHOULD be in find shape right?

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                                                    • Brujah
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                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                      • 22157
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                      They may have mandatory health insurance, but I doubt the unions and politicians and insurance companies and drug companies have their hands all over it their
                                                      None of that matters based on your previous posts. It's unconstitutional whether anyone has their hands all over it or not.

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                                                        • The Demon
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                                                          • Apr 2003
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Brujah
                                                          Switzerland doesn't go around policing the rest of the world, starting and participating in wars, so doesn't need to spend trillions in that respect. If you suggest that here, you would be "soft."
                                                          That's because they can't. And you're right, they're neutral. So they win from both sides!

                                                          Switzerland has mandatory universal health-insurance like everyone here is screaming against, and suggesting it will destroy the country.
                                                          Hey way to compare apples and oranges and proving you shouldn't be posting in these threads.
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                                                            • Brujah
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                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 22157
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by The Demon
                                                              Hey way to compare apples and oranges and proving you shouldn't be posting in these threads.
                                                              You lost me. Explain further?

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                                                                • J. Falcon
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                                                                  • May 2006
                                                                  • 31587
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                  That's because they can't. And you're right, they're neutral. So they win from both sides!



                                                                  Hey way to compare apples and oranges and proving you shouldn't be posting in these threads.


                                                                  You shouldn't be posting at all.
                                                                  Begone troll.
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                                                                    • mgtarheels
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                      isn't it all relative?
                                                                      No......

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                                                                        • andrej_NDC
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                                                                          • May 2004
                                                                          • 7760
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
                                                                          The Swiss have very low immigration due to strict policies. Plus the most complex money laundering systems known to man.
                                                                          lol Its a money laundering heaven for most EU politicians.

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                                                                            • TeenCat
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                                                                              • Jan 2007
                                                                              • 16131
                                                                              #20
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                                                                                • The Demon
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                  Switzerland doesn't go around policing the rest of the world, starting and participating in wars, so doesn't need to spend trillions in that respect. If you suggest that here, you would be "soft."
                                                                                  Bullshit yet again. Switzerland doesn't police the world because it can't. Switzerland is a historically neutral country with a fraction of the population of America, and that's how it operates. We HAD to start "policing the world" (LOL at the generalization) starting in WWI and WWII and so on. I'm not sure why you would post something so retarded. We HAD to participate in WW1 and WWII (Vietnam is a tossup). Show me a war that we started. I'm not really calling Afghanistan or Iraq, war.

                                                                                  Switzerland has conscription of nearly all its citizens, they must serve in the military for a number of years. If you suggest that here, you would be an enemy of freedom and socialist or communist.
                                                                                  This is nonsense and bullshit packed into a paragraph.

                                                                                  Switzerland has mandatory universal health-insurance like everyone here is screaming against, and suggesting it will destroy the country.
                                                                                  This is probably the dumbest out of all your statements. You can't even represent opinions of the opposition in an accurate manner. Nice continuous strawmen arguments though. Switzlerand isn't facing an economic crisis. It's not facing astronomical debts and deficits, unemployment and currency debasement, we are. THAT is why we are complaining(and the majority of Americans) that it is destroying the country. Next time try posting facts, not watching CNN/MSNBC/other liberal propaganda.
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                                                                                    • Brujah
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                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                      • 22157
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      So you basically have nothing. I don't know why I bothered.

                                                                                      The mandatory health care reform was unconstitutional. Why are you defending Switzerland and suggesting it's better than the United States? What kind of communist are you?

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                                                                                        • The Demon
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                          So you basically have nothing. I don't know why I bothered.

                                                                                          The mandatory health care reform was unconstitutional. Why are you defending Switzerland and suggesting it's better than the United States? What kind of communist are you?
                                                                                          Perfect, just like I thought. You bring zero facts into the discussion, I destroy your second grade argument, and you show your insecurity by claiming that "I have nothing", meaning you can't actually back up your bullshit with facts. That was TOO easy. These discussions are above you Brujah, you should just stay out
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                                                                                            • BFT3K
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                                                                                              • Dec 2005
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                              You lost me. Explain further?

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                                                                                                • J. Falcon
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Is The Demons seriously the most obnoxious, delusional, retarded, lonely, ignorant, attention whore ever to crawl the pages of GFY? Not sure, but he is up there.
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                                                                                                    • The Demon
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                                                                                                      So cute, when the most ridiculed individuals on this forum can't make a point, they try something else. It just proves my point and makes it easier for me to laugh at the retards. Keep at it morons, maybe somebody else might pay attention
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                                                                                                        • The Demon
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by J. Falcon
                                                                                                          Is The Demons seriously the most obnoxious, delusional, retarded, lonely, ignorant, attention whore ever to crawl the pages of GFY? Not sure, but he is up there.
                                                                                                          Does anyone other than me ever respond to you or does everybody feel genuine sympathy for a pathetic human being such as yourself? I think it's obvious.
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                                                                                                            • BFT3K
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                                                                                                              • Dec 2005
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by J. Falcon
                                                                                                              Is The Demon seriously the most obnoxious, delusional, retarded, lonely, ignorant, attention whore ever to crawl the pages of GFY?
                                                                                                              In my 5 years here? Yes, hands down! He is one of a kind.

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                                                                                                                • The Demon
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                                                  In my 5 years here? Yes, hands down! He is one of a kind.
                                                                                                                  I appreciate that from someone who gets ridiculed on a daily basis. I don't feel as bad for you because people actually respond to your nonsense (albeit with ridicule). People just flat out ignore JFalcon
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                                                                                                                    • J. Falcon
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                                                      In my 5 years here? Yes, hands down! He is one of a kind.
                                                                                                                      I've been here for 6 and have seen all kinds of retards, but this guy takes trolling to a whole new level. Props to him if that what gets him off.
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                                                                                                                        • The Demon
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                                                                                                                          Originally posted by J. Falcon
                                                                                                                          I've been here for 6 and have seen all kinds of retards, but this guy takes trolling to a whole new level. Props to him if that what gets him off.
                                                                                                                          It's becoming WAY too easy to make fun of you intellectually inferior losers on a daily basis. Fortunately I'm not the only one who feels that way. I would point out the irony of you being allergic to intelligence, common sense, or reading comprehension and that you make yourself look hilarious retarded everytime you post in a thread to call someone a troll, but that would just fly completely over your head. Thanks for making it easy and your stupidity well known to GFY JFalcon. You'll top yourself tomorrow.
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                                                                                                                            • BFT3K
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                                                                                                                              • Dec 2005
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by J. Falcon
                                                                                                                              I've been here for 6 and have seen all kinds of retards, but this guy takes trolling to a whole new level. Props to him if that what gets him off.
                                                                                                                              Not sure is "props" is the right reference there, but whatever... fact remains, he is certainly a member of the short bus crew.

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                                                                                                                                • The Demon
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                                                                                                                                  Says one of the dumbest people on a porn forum: )
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                                                                                                                                    • fatfoo
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Switzerland has competent government that is less corrupt than other countries. Good read.
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                                                                                                                                        • DaddyHalbucks
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                                                                          not everything is so fine and dandy in switzerland as it sounds here. but maybe it starts with that they never went to war with anyone
                                                                                                                                          Switzerland is a great country and the world could learn alot from them, however..

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                                                                                                                                            • Barefootsies
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                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2005
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by xmas13
                                                                                                                                              How does it do that?
                                                                                                                                              It (the Swiss) does not waste a huge chunk of it's annual budget defending the world. It manages to keep to it's self and let other countries do the same. It is not sabre rattling and getting into wars with darkies all over he globe. Nor waste it's time 'nation building' abroad when it should be focused on it's own filth in the backyard.

                                                                                                                                              Taxes are also typically higher throughout Europe. The seem to be a collection of countries that understand finance a lot better than the west. If you want education/health care/social programs/etc. you have to PAY FOR THEM.

                                                                                                                                              Funny how that works.
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                                                                                                                                                • Raf1
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                                                                                                                  lol Its a money laundering heaven for most EU politicians.
                                                                                                                                                  a while ago maybe, but as it turned out lately, not necessarily for Germans doing banking there...
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                                                                                                                                                    • andrej_NDC
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Raf1
                                                                                                                                                      a while ago maybe, but as it turned out lately, not necessarily for Germans doing banking there...
                                                                                                                                                      Not much changed...just one bank employee fucked some clients, still plenty of banks there, some which regular people don't even know about. But I'm sure the same german politicians who so wanted to punish germans with swiss bank accounts, have there bank accounts, too.

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                                                                                                                                                        • Agent 488
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          the birthplace of modern fascism. no thanks.

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