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Youtube going to allow full HD 1080P.

11-13-2009, 05:31 AM

Still will have the 10 minute length but they will start allowing full 1080P HD video starting next week I think. Current videos that were uploaded and were HD and stuck at their current standard of 720p are being re-encoded to 1080p. They do admit the videos will be slower to load for most people, but the videos are larger (duh!).

If they are bleeding money damn, wouldnt that about double their costs on new video uploads and sharing?

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11-13-2009, 05:34 AM

Shit, thats going to be a whack on there servers... Obviously they can afford it, but...
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11-13-2009, 05:38 AM

Hmmm, yea that's not a good sign TBH

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11-13-2009, 05:40 AM

Originally posted by Nicky

Hmmm, yea that's not a good sign TBH

That is what I was thinking. I just did not want to leave yet another long post.

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11-13-2009, 05:48 AM

I was just reading an article talking about how youtube has yet to figure out how to make money, and now they are doing this? Need to dump my google stock... oh wait, I did already.

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11-13-2009, 06:06 AM

Crazy!!

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11-13-2009, 06:11 AM

youtube will regret all these things including allowing the user to make the video bigger, its destroying every chance they had of making money off this thing

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11-13-2009, 11:15 AM

Escortbiz, I am not sure profit is their goal. I think they do want to provide free services to collect data.

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11-13-2009, 11:20 AM

their videos already load so fucking slow

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11-13-2009, 11:28 AM

Won't be long before adult tube sites will be offering full HD.
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11-13-2009, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by After Shock Media

Still will have the 10 minute length but they will start allowing full 1080P HD video starting next week I think. Current videos that were uploaded and were HD and stuck at their current standard of 720p are being re-encoded to 1080p. They do admit the videos will be slower to load for most people, but the videos are larger (duh!).

If they are bleeding money damn, wouldnt that about double their costs on new video uploads and sharing?

According to a link I posted recently, Youtube's hosting cost is close to ZERO. This is due to the fact they are layered on Google's existing immense hardware architecture.

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11-13-2009, 12:03 PM

They have go to a multiple server solution now, there's no way that there current one server can handle this upgrade

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11-13-2009, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by Scott McD

Crazy!!

What next ? YouTube Blu-Ray vids ???

HD is the same shit as Blue-ray

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11-13-2009, 02:33 PM

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According to a link I posted recently, Youtube's hosting cost is close to ZERO. This is due to the fact they are layered on Google's existing immense hardware architecture.

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11-13-2009, 02:41 PM

bullshit their costs might be low but nowhere near 0

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11-13-2009, 03:36 PM

Google does not breakdown or disclose revenue by departments, so only they know how much Youtube makes or doesn't make. Given that Youtube uses more bandwidth than any site on the net, I would imagine the site is being used as a tool for technologies of scale that even google.com cannot achieve. Google is making a huge profit, it's irrelevant at this point if youtube is losing money. Data is what they are after.
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11-13-2009, 05:38 PM

Shitloads of outbound content = peer muscle. Some ISPs may even pay google to carry their content.
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11-13-2009, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by Nicky

Hmmm, yea that's not a good sign TBH
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11-13-2009, 11:41 PM

I think bandwidth is not a problem, because Full HD require only 10mbits.
But question is that: What CPU we need to watch FULL HD using flash ?

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11-13-2009, 11:55 PM

Didn't they burn enough money already? Even if they only use youtube to collect data it's hard to believe blowing out even more money will help them in any way ...

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11-14-2009, 12:01 AM

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11-14-2009, 12:14 AM

Google is going to surprise everyone when they announce Youtube hits profitability. Everyone overestimates their costs, and underestimates their revenues. I can't go to youtube now days without seeing multiple ads all over the place, and I don't even mind, because I view it in widescreen and the quality is improving.

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11-14-2009, 12:16 AM

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11-14-2009, 01:13 AM

Barely any videos are true 1080P, lucky if 1% of videos uploaded are actually the full quality.

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11-14-2009, 01:29 AM

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11-14-2009, 01:36 AM

Originally posted by Arnox

Barely any videos are true 1080P, lucky if 1% of videos uploaded are actually the full quality.

We shall see in a week.

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11-14-2009, 01:43 AM

Originally posted by Chief

Google is going to surprise everyone when they announce Youtube hits profitability. Everyone overestimates their costs, and underestimates their revenues. I can't go to youtube now days without seeing multiple ads all over the place, and I don't even mind, because I view it in widescreen and the quality is improving.

"and I don't even mind, because I view it in widescreen"

the advertisers do mind and at the end of the day they decide whats worth it for them or not, thats why noone uses youtube to advertise long term, they come and go and sooner or later no more suckers,

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11-14-2009, 01:52 AM

you know, i have not clicked through on a paid ad on facebook, gmail, youtube, (or gfy for that matter), in YEARS. am i the only one? i'm so desensitized i haven't really noticed any ads for many years now.

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11-14-2009, 02:25 AM

Originally posted by After Shock Media

If they are bleeding money damn, wouldnt that about double their costs on new video uploads and sharing?

google doesn't have bandwidth bill. i'm serious. check this out: http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/...ube-bandwidth/

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11-14-2009, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by quiet

you know, i have not clicked through on a paid ad on facebook, gmail, youtube, (or gfy for that matter), in YEARS. am i the only one? i'm so desensitized i haven't really noticed any ads for many years now.

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11-14-2009, 02:35 AM

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11-14-2009, 08:12 AM

That's great. Now I can see someone get kicked in the nuts in HD.

That's right. It's a waste of bandwidth.
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11-14-2009, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by quiet

you know, i have not clicked through on a paid ad on facebook, gmail, youtube, (or gfy for that matter), in YEARS. am i the only one? i'm so desensitized i haven't really noticed any ads for many years now.

yup, avg surfer who surfs 3 hours a day after 7 days id say at least 200 ads flashed by his face, I doubt they can recall 1

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11-14-2009, 09:08 AM

Originally posted by biskoppen

They have go to a multiple server solution now, there's no way that there current one server can handle this upgrade

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11-14-2009, 01:56 PM

dont act so smart.
google isnt stupid.
criticizing something you have no insight into just makes you look like a clueless idiot.
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11-14-2009, 01:57 PM

I think YouTube is going to partially replace tv in the future. Bandwidth costs are irrelevent to Google. HD video on the new 10-inch led apple tablet and similar setups coupled with Netflix streaming, YouTube, buying shows through Itunes, etc will allow many people to dump cable. That will free up $50+/month per person to spend on Youtube and other providers of video. I will happily dump cable myself once I can buy HD streamed sporting events for a buck or two each.
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11-14-2009, 02:08 PM

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google doesn't have bandwidth bill. i'm serious. check this out: http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/...ube-bandwidth/

I personally am not sure either way. That is why I said IF.

Maybe all or one of you can explain to me what allowing this, including encoding the past 720d movies to 1020 has to do with net neutrality.

Plus for some more info on why:

The news signifies an even deeper commitment by Google, the search giant, to provide video content that rivals what the most sophisticated cable and over-the-air broadcast networks offer.
The company is also pushing into new types of video-recommendation techniques that will not only suggest directly related videos to users but also use sophisticated algorithms to ascertain what a user will like based on previous viewing history and other indirect factors. This could turn YouTube into a video-discovery engine, similar to Internet radio company Pandora.com.

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The introduction of more high-quality video will increase the friction between Google, and particularly YouTube, and various internet service providers in the US, where "net neutrality" has become a sore point. Some ISPs and telephone companies argue that companies which send large amounts of data - particularly video - over their networks should pay to ensure that it does not block others from sending their data. Google and other companies contend that it is the telephone companies' and ISPs' responsibility to maintain the standards of their networks to meet growing demand for high-volume data transmission.

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11-14-2009, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by biskoppen

They have go to a multiple server solution now, there's no way that there current one server can handle this upgrade

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11-14-2009, 03:41 PM

At least their system won't reduce quality when you upload a vid ;)
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11-14-2009, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by TidalWave

their videos already load so fucking slow

Get rid of your dial up. They actually load super fast.

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11-14-2009, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by Trax

dont act so smart.
google isnt stupid.
criticizing something you have no insight into just makes you look like a clueless idiot.

again if they are trying to have youtube be something that generates clicks for advertisers this will not help

if they simply want user traffic then yes this will work

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11-14-2009, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave

Get rid of your dial up. They actually load super fast.

there are times when youtube does load very slow and in the past months several times where they where down for 30+ minutes

I wish i had that problem of having 500 million daily hits and being down 30 minutes a month but the point is sometimes even with high speed connection it is slow

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11-14-2009, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by sobaka

I think YouTube is going to partially replace tv in the future. Bandwidth costs are irrelevent to Google. HD video on the new 10-inch led apple tablet and similar setups coupled with Netflix streaming, YouTube, buying shows through Itunes, etc will allow many people to dump cable. That will free up $50+/month per person to spend on Youtube and other providers of video. I will happily dump cable myself once I can buy HD streamed sporting events for a buck or two each.

I have to agree at least partially with this.

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11-14-2009, 08:53 PM

Cool, but honestly, I don't really notice a difference between 720 & 1080..

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I highly doubt that will happen..

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