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  • J. Falcon
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    Doctor Refuses Care To Obama Supporters

    Mount Dora, FL, United States (AHN) - A sign in the window of a Florida doctor?s office has many people upset.

    The sign, stating ?If you voted for Obama, seek urologic care elsewhere. Changes to your healthcare begin right now -- not in four years," was placed in the window by Dr. Jack Cassell, a urologist, to let people know how discontented he is with the Obama administration, according to reports.

    The 56-year-old Mount Dora doctor said he does not turn anyone away, but if someone read the sign and decided not to enter his establishment then ?so be it.?

    Cassell has been practicing medicine in the Republican-heavy Lake County area since 1988. His wife, Leslie Campione, has announced as a Republican candidate for Lake County commissioner.

    Cassell said although some patients are disgusted by the sign, there has been overwhelming support from the community, according to reports. He insisted a patient?s political view would not influence his treatment of them, but would prefer not to treat Obama supporters.

    Read more: http://www.allheadlinenews.com/artic...#ixzz0k06MxP1Y

    Simply amazing.
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  • mozadek
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    #2
    fascinating

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    • baddog
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      #3
      Originally posted by J. Falcon
      Simply amazing.
      Maybe you should get the message he is trying to send.

      And no, he is not refusing care to anyone.

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      • fatfoo
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        #4
        That's surprising.
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        • J. Falcon
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          #5
          Originally posted by baddog
          Maybe you should get the message he is trying to send.
          That he is a professional with no ethics who puts politics before health care? Got it, loud and clear.
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          • Gouge
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            #6
            The title is somewhat misleading, it clearly says in the article that - The 56-year-old Mount Dora doctor said he does not turn anyone away, but if someone read the sign and decided not to enter his establishment then ?so be it.?

            So its not as if he is telling people no i wont treat you, he is simply expressing his freedom of speech and frustration.

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            • SuzzyQ
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              #7
              Originally posted by Gouge
              The title is somewhat misleading, it clearly says in the article that - The 56-year-old Mount Dora doctor said he does not turn anyone away, but if someone read the sign and decided not to enter his establishment then “so be it.”

              So its not as if he is telling people no i wont treat you, he is simply expressing his freedom of speech and frustration.


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              • Deej
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                #8
                Originally posted by J. Falcon
                That he is a professional with no ethics who puts politics before health care? Got it, loud and clear.
                I dont see why you say he has no ethics... I think he is fully stating and standing up for his ethics.

                Maybe you meant he dosnt have the same view as you and you dont like that. Yea that sounds better.

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                • J. Falcon
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Gouge
                  The title is somewhat misleading, it clearly says in the article that - The 56-year-old Mount Dora doctor said he does not turn anyone away, but if someone read the sign and decided not to enter his establishment then ?so be it.?

                  So its not as if he is telling people no i wont treat you, he is simply expressing his freedom of speech and frustration.
                  Yes because if he did actually turn patients away it would be a clear violation of the vow of ethics he took meaning he would be in serious trouble. So on the one hand he treats anyone no matter who they voted for, on the other he has a sign on his window telling Obama supporters to beat it. Makes sense to you?
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                  • J. Falcon
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Deej

                    Maybe you meant he dosnt have the same view as you and you dont like that. Yea that sounds better.
                    No that's not what I meant, and it doesn't sound better. Perhaps you should read the vow that doctors take once they become professionals and tell me if they can put signs that discriminate potential clients based on their political standpoint.
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                    • Deej
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by J. Falcon
                      No that's not what I meant, and it doesn't sound better. Perhaps you should read the vow that doctors take once they become professionals and tell me if they can put signs that discriminate potential clients based on their political standpoint.
                      I do get your point and I was being a technical jerk..

                      It DOES go both ways and he is not turning them away literally. Perhaps you would like him to reword it to project the same point?

                      You dont argue that he has a right to voice his opinion over the current health care fiasco, more so since he is more in the mix than the average citizen, right?

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                      • J. Falcon
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Deej
                        You dont argue that he has a right to voice his opinion over the current health care fiasco, more so since he is more in the mix than the average citizen, right?
                        IMO, the average citizen is more in the mix than anybody, since this health care bill/ law was created for them.

                        Of course he has a right to voice his opinion. But he also has an obligation as a professional to be ethical and not discriminate. Frankly, I am disgusted by it and can't believe anyone thinks what he is doing is right.
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                        • kane
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                          #13
                          Maybe I am just dumb, but why is Obamacare going to put doctors out of business? Has anyone who has had a doctor tell them this asked why? I have asked a few different doctors and they both seemed pretty neutral about it. It seems to me that the main component of Obamacare is that currently uninsured people will be getting insurance and, in theory, eventually most every one in the country will have health insurance. So more insurance = more potential customers.

                          How is it going to kill doctors business?

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                          • BIGTYMER
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                            #14
                            We do live in America. Choices people. Choices.

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                            • Axeman
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                              #15
                              Kane a big part of doctors concerns is the 21% cut to medicare reimbursements in the bill which are going into effect once congress reconvines on the 12th.

                              Lower payments for primary care doctors which already barely make a good living compared to the debt they take on to become a doctor will likely become a big problem as more and more doctors will choose to be specialists instead.

                              Here are few good articles as it relates to medicare and primary physicians anyways.

                              Also about 15 million of the 32 million people they except will be on mediaid which pays even worse than medicare and in which an ever growing number of doctors and pharmacists are refusing to see since payment is just to low. Last article is about that one.

                              http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/04/news..._doctor_costs/

                              http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...-medicare.html

                              http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...nicole02m.html

                              http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...aid-surge.html
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                              • baddog
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by J. Falcon
                                That he is a professional with no ethics who puts politics before health care? Got it, loud and clear.
                                No. The message was that this new bill is going to fuck with him, and he is not sure he will be around in 4 years, so might as well start getting used to going elsewhere. He never refused service to anyone.

                                Originally posted by J. Falcon
                                No that's not what I meant, and it doesn't sound better. Perhaps you should read the vow that doctors take once they become professionals and tell me if they can put signs that discriminate potential clients based on their political standpoint.
                                You sure take things literal when they don't suit you.

                                Yes, he runs a PRIVATE business. He can treat whomever he wants.

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                                • DaddyHalbucks
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                                  #17
                                  He is not refusing care, he is just cleverly making his own political statement.
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                                  • kane
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Axeman
                                    Kane a big part of doctors concerns is the 21% cut to medicare reimbursements in the bill which are going into effect once congress reconvines on the 12th.

                                    Lower payments for primary care doctors which already barely make a good living compared to the debt they take on to become a doctor will likely become a big problem as more and more doctors will choose to be specialists instead.

                                    Here are few good articles as it relates to medicare and primary physicians anyways.

                                    Also about 15 million of the 32 million people they except will be on mediaid which pays even worse than medicare and in which an ever growing number of doctors and pharmacists are refusing to see since payment is just to low. Last article is about that one.

                                    http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/04/news..._doctor_costs/

                                    http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...-medicare.html

                                    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...nicole02m.html

                                    http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...aid-surge.html
                                    Thanks for the info. I'll read these over the weekend.

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                                    • mynameisjim
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by baddog

                                      Yes, he runs a PRIVATE business. He can treat whomever he wants.
                                      That's not entirely true and it's definitely not true for someone providing medical services under license from the state.
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                                      • J. Falcon
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by baddog

                                        You sure take things literal when they don't suit you.

                                        Yes, he runs a PRIVATE business. He can treat whomever he wants.
                                        You're right I do get carried away.

                                        But what is the difference between what he is doing and putting a sign on his door saying he doesn't want to treat Jews or blacks or any other form of discrimination?
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                                        • Deej
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by J. Falcon
                                          You're right I do get carried away.

                                          But what is the difference between what he is doing and putting a sign on his door saying he doesn't want to treat Jews or blacks or any other form of discrimination?
                                          Its WAY different than saying blacks or jews.

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                                          • Mr. Billy
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                                            He is not refusing care, he is just cleverly making his own political statement.
                                            Somehow the word clever does not come to mind when I think of this guy.

                                            He treads very closely to a violation of his Hippocratic Oath, which is what you swear to uphold and abide by when you become a physician. It is a profound duty. He certainly comes close to violating the intent of that oath to a degree.

                                            A medical physicians license is more than a business license and with it comes a certain expectation that an individual will display concern and compassion for people who are suffering or who come to you in need of healthcare.

                                            It is not a tool to be used in arguments in the healthcare setting with persons who have different opinions than you do. There are other places to take those to.

                                            This type of activity by any healthcare professional in the healthcare setting would cause me to question that person as a suitable choice of a healthcare provider for myself or my family. I think I would tend to worry about the skill level of a person engaging in such a spectacle.

                                            It would be different if he had a sign in his office asking patients to help him by voting against the healthcare bill because he felt it was not a good thing, but he put up a sign telling patients to go away. I don't think that's cool.
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                                            • Paul Markham
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by J. Falcon
                                              You're right I do get carried away.

                                              But what is the difference between what he is doing and putting a sign on his door saying he doesn't want to treat Jews or blacks or any other form of discrimination?
                                              That would get him prosecuted in the US. Race discrimination

                                              Originally posted by BIGTYMER
                                              We do live in America. Choices people. Choices.
                                              The people who can't afford health insurance don't have any choice. Or is choice linked to being well off?



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                                                • BIGTYMER
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                  The people who can't afford health insurance don't have any choice. Or is choice linked to being well off?
                                                  If you have no health insurance then you can see ANY doctor you want. Its the people who HAVE health insurance that get forced to go to certain doctors or pick from a small selection.

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                                                  • seeandsee
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by J. Falcon
                                                    Simply amazing.
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                                                    • kane
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by BIGTYMER
                                                      If you have no health insurance then you can see ANY doctor you want. Its the people who HAVE health insurance that get forced to go to certain doctors or pick from a small selection.
                                                      Well, this is only half correct. If you have no insurance you can go see any doctor you want as long as you have cash in hand to pay for the treatment. If you have insurance, you can also see any doctor you want, but your insurance may not cover it. Having insurance doesn't force you to see a particular doctor, it only forces you to see that particular doctor if you want your insurance to pay for it.

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                                                      • GatorB
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                                        Maybe you should get the message he is trying to send. .
                                                        The message is that he's an idiot that want st make LESS money by turning away customers. REAL smart. As much as I hate people that supported Bush I certainly wouldn't turn away any sales from them. Also thanks to healthcare reform this idiot is about to receive a ton more customers. He should be THANKING Obama. Also he has ZERO idea if this is going to turn out to be a bad idea. Based on what? Does he have any FACTS to back that up? Nope. I would NEVER use this doctor. Not because he's a republican but because he's stupid.

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                                                        • GatorB
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by BIGTYMER
                                                          If you have no health insurance then you can see ANY doctor you want.
                                                          If you don't have insurance or the cash to pay for a dcotor visit then no you CAN NOT see any doctor you want. There aren't any doctors where I live that will see you if you don't have insurance or money.

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                                                            • The Demon
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by kane
                                                              Maybe I am just dumb, but why is Obamacare going to put doctors out of business? Has anyone who has had a doctor tell them this asked why? I have asked a few different doctors and they both seemed pretty neutral about it. It seems to me that the main component of Obamacare is that currently uninsured people will be getting insurance and, in theory, eventually most every one in the country will have health insurance. So more insurance = more potential customers.

                                                              How is it going to kill doctors business?
                                                              I can tell you whose business it won't kill. Doctors who accept Medicare/medicaid. This Doctor I know is going to be even more filthy rich because of this bill.
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                                                              • HeadPimp
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by J. Falcon
                                                                That he is a professional with no ethics who puts politics before health care? Got it, loud and clear.
                                                                No, he is an individual maintaining control of HIS BUSINESS! Government mandated healthcare would be the same as if they stepped in and told everyone here that their sites had to have X number of pictures and charge no more than a set fee, and if the surfer had bad credit, we had to let them in for half price.

                                                                He is not operating an emergency care clinic, patients have the option of going to a different doctor for urology services. This is the American way! I applaud him for taking a stand for what he feels is right.

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                                                                  • TheDoc
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    That means he voted for Bush, two times.... someone should slit his throat for being part of the reason our nation is screwed.
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                                                                    • baddog
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                      That means he voted for Bush, two times.... someone should slit his throat for being part of the reason our nation is screwed.
                                                                      Obama never ran against Bush, so how did you arrive at that conclusion?

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                                                                      • TheDoc
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                                                        Obama never ran against Bush, so how did you arrive at that conclusion?
                                                                        It takes a mighty warped view to pull a conclusion like that out of my statement.

                                                                        Clearly, Obama isn't American and couldn't have voted for Bush.
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                                                                        • DateDoc
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by J. Falcon
                                                                          IMO, the average citizen is more in the mix than anybody, since this health care bill/ law was created for them.
                                                                          The current healthcare bill was created for the pharmaceutical/healthcare/insurance industry more than it was the people that need it. If it was created for the people it would be single payer, govt provided healthcare.

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                                                                          • baddog
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                            It takes a mighty warped view to pull a conclusion like that out of my statement.

                                                                            Clearly, Obama isn't American and couldn't have voted for Bush.
                                                                            So, how did you arrive at the conclusion that the good doctor voted for Bush two times?

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                                                                            • BIGTYMER
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                              If you don't have insurance or the cash to pay for a dcotor visit then no you CAN NOT see any doctor you want. There aren't any doctors where I live that will see you if you don't have insurance or money.
                                                                              Well I'm saying if you have money.

                                                                              If you don't have insurance or don't have money your fucked.
                                                                              Last edited by BIGTYMER; 04-03-2010, 06:52 AM.

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                                                                              • BIGTYMER
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                                                                                I can only get health insurance that doesn't cover my prescriptions because I have a pre exisiting condition. My medicine is $400/month and 3 months out of the years I also take a steroid that is $1,200/month. Having health insurance is useless for me....

                                                                                Does Obamas health changes do anything for me?

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                                                                                • TheDoc
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                  So, how did you arrive at the conclusion that the good doctor voted for Bush two times?
                                                                                  I used my ninja detective skills based on the information in the article... my top ninja skill is called, the logical move.

                                                                                  You could put money on it that he didn't vote for Al Gore or John Kerry.
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                                                                                  • TheDoc
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by BIGTYMER
                                                                                    I can only get health insurance that doesn't cover my prescriptions because I have a pre exisiting condition. My medicine is $400/month and 3 months out of the years I also take a steroid that is $1,200/month. Having health insurance is useless for me....

                                                                                    Does Obamas health changes do anything for me?
                                                                                    In the idea of what was created, yes... but in reality, that is to be seen once it is really goes into action.
                                                                                    Last edited by TheDoc; 04-03-2010, 07:11 AM.
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                                                                                    • The Demon
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                      Obama never ran against Bush, so how did you arrive at that conclusion?
                                                                                      How does he arrive at any political conclusion?

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                                                                                      • J. Falcon
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                        So, how did you arrive at the conclusion that the good doctor voted for Bush two times?
                                                                                        This guy is obviously a Republican. Didn't you hear/read what the inside of his office is like? It's no surprise that people that are against Obama support this idiot's way of "expressing his ideals" and those are are for Obama see this as sickening.
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                                                                                        • TheDoc
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                          How does he arrive at any political conclusion?
                                                                                          Man, that's rather messed up to say that Doctor does coke thus came up with that sign.. I'm going to guess your view probably isn't as logical as him just being another retarded republican.. but you never know, the coke issue is probably why he needs more money.
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                                                                                          • baddog
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by J. Falcon
                                                                                            Didn't you hear/read what the inside of his office is like?
                                                                                            Where would I have read that. Nothing was mentioned in the article you linked to. Does he have a shrine to Reagan up or something?

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                                                                                            • The Demon
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                              Where would I have read that. Nothing was mentioned in the article you linked to. Does he have a shrine to Reagan up or something?
                                                                                              Pay no attention to the illogical rationalizations. "He must be a Republican" would be an example of an illogical rationalization.
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                                                                                              • J. Falcon
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                Where would I have read that. Nothing was mentioned in the article you linked to. Does he have a shrine to Reagan up or something?
                                                                                                http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_523076.html

                                                                                                Cassell, a registered Republican, quickly backpedaled in an interview with the Orlando Sentinel, but said he's perfectly happy to lose business over the sign. "I'm not turning anybody away, that would be unethical," he told the Sentinel. "But if they read the sign and turn the other way, so be it."
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                                                                                                The urologist, who keeps Republican materials in the waiting room, said he is not attempting to change his patient population, but wants to educate them.

                                                                                                "The people, who voted for Obama, are ultimately responsible for this to have happened, and they have to understand that they made a mistake," said Cassell.

                                                                                                Experts say Cassell is toeing a thin line between right and wrong. The physician has been practicing medicine in Lake County for 22 years. His wife, Leslie Campione , is running for Lake County Commission seat, District 4.

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                                                                                                • J. Falcon
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                                                                                                  • May 2006
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                                  Pay no attention to the illogical rationalizations. "He must be a Republican" would be an example of an illogical rationalization.
                                                                                                  And you would be an example of a worthless troll. You have nothing to add here or anywhere else, so fuck off.
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                                                                                                  • marketsmart
                                                                                                    HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                                                                                    • Dec 2004
                                                                                                    • 20419

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by SuzzyQ


                                                                                                    My Chiropractor said that Obamacare is going to kill his business.
                                                                                                    yes, because the current system allows chiropractors to milk the system..

                                                                                                    your friend shouldn't blame obama, he should blame his colleagues he screwed the system for years...





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